Torben Søndergaard – Last Reformation of Lies
There is a Danish Pastor called Torben Søndergaard doing the rounds and I’ve been asked 3 times now what I think of him. It’s time to do an article on this guy.
I received a comment from a Discerning the World reader who said:
“I have just found this page recently and I find it very interesting. It confuses me right now, but hopefully it will clear up later, when I read more. So I would like to ask you about a danish evangelist Torben Sondergaard. Here is a link to his youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/user/DanishEvangelist
What do you think is it Kundalini?”
So off I went to analyse the following video: Last Reformation
A Baptism unto Repentance
A few things really stick out for me in this video, but don’t run away after reading the below, stick around to the end of article for the best of this man’s doctrine.
- In the video at 1:13 min they say you get baptised (in water) FOR THE REMISSION OF YOUR SINS – this is 100% not biblical. Let’s see why:
(Acts 19:4) “Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.”
John the Baptist’s baptism in water was a baptism of repentance, but when Jesus Came, you are to be spiritually baptised into the One and only Baptism of Jesus Christ.
“And Peter said to them, ‘Repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.’” (Acts 2:38).
When you are genuinely born again you prayed to Jesus Christ and you repented to Jesus Christ and ask Him for forgiveness of all your sins and because of this you are automatically spiritually baptized into the One and only Baptism of the Jesus Christ, there after the Holy Spirit will come to abide in you permanently.
- Baptism in water was for Jewish unbelievers. We are gentiles and we believe solely by faith and we do not need to be baptized in water. It is very important for the Pentecostal/Charismatic/Apostolic and Prophetic/Hebrew Roots Movement to baptize people in water:
- These pastors believe they are part of the Apostolic succession (the same as the Catholic Church) and today’s so called Christian church is supposed to be part of the false doctrine of the lost tribes of Israel and we apparently need to ‘realize’ this and be part of the Last Reformation that the Vatican is raising so as to enter and take over Jerusalem with their one world religion.
- Baptizing you in water is a way of taking you back to the Hebrew way of doing things, and you push Jesus Christ completely out of the picture as the One who forgives you of your sin, instead the immersion in water is what forgives you instead.
(Matthew 3:11-12) John the Baptist says: “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. ”
(John 1:33) “And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.”
What’s the point of us being baptised in water? When you are born again you are automatically SPIRITUALLY baptised by Jesus Christ onto the One and Only baptism there is, where after the Holy Spirit comes to live in you. Now you go and dunk yourself in a swimming pool, a bath tub? For what? As a work? To complete your salvation? For forgiveness of sin? No.
- There is a guy in the pool at 2:02 min he is speaking in tongues. See article on biblical explanation of Speaking in Tougues
- At 2:30 min here a woman is slain in the spirit – she falls over under the power of a false spirit. See this article: The Biblical Holy Spirit vs. The False Unholy Spirit of Fire
- There is another guy in the pool at 2:34 min who is convulsing in the water – this is Kundalini electricity. See this article: The Biblical Holy Spirit vs. The False Unholy Spirit of Fire
I found another video of Torben Søndergaard:
A Torben Søndergaard hijack with a gospel of non repentance
Torben Søndergaard hijacks you on the spot, does a willy nilly prayer with you, lays hands on you in the street, or dunks you under water at a baptism, a demon manifests (but does not actually leave), and then he lays hands on you again and forces that Spirit of FIRE into you until you speak in tongues, which according to Torben Søndergaard proves you are now truly saved. According to the doctrine of Pentecostalism, if you can’t speak in tongues, then you are not saved. See here: Pentecostalism
This “The Last Reformation” Torben speaks about is none other than the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) / Latter Rain Movement. It is actually part and parcel of the Hebrew Roots Movement as well, all bound together in a nice Roman Catholic purple ribbon. All these false movements intertwine like a thorny bush.
Steps to a ‘Torben salvation’:
- Ask to pray for a person, any person, hijack them in the street or a store if necessary, and lay your lands on them if possible.
- Torben Søndergaard prays in tongues over the person – one can only shudder as to what demonic entity he is communicating with.
- Person will mostly manifest a demon (Satan has to put on a show after all).
- Person screams, rolls around on the floor etc, and demon supposedly flees. However the person is shocked at the manifestation and will genuinely believe they are free from any demonic affliction when in fact they are not.
- Torben Søndergaard now has to force his ‘false Holy Spirit of Fire’ onto the person to get them to RECEIVE the Spirit of Fire (another demonic entity).
- Spirit of FIRE enters person and they start to speak in tongues, convulse, jerk, have visions, etc.
- Person now worships God, praises Jesus, and is ‘Torben born again’ due to the fact that they can now speak in gibberish tongues.
The Full Gospel
The term ‘Full Gospel’ (Pentecostalism) does not mean ‘the full gospel of the bible’, but the full gospel of all so called Christian faiths mingled into one, including Calvinism – this is why it’s so easy for someone to fall from Pentecostalism into Calvinism (NG Kerk) and Calvinism back into Pentecostalism because the doctrine of ELECTION is present in both movements. And ‘full gospel’ is exactly what you will see Torben’s Last Reformation is all about… as he takes bits and pieces from every so called Christian doctrine and mingles them together.
What does Torben Søndergaard believe?
Torben Søndergaard is part of the Oneness Pentecostal sect. He believes he is a self appointed apostle with a “Last Reformation” belief system. He claims that “about 90 percent of all the people, that he or others in his team pray for, are healed”. [8] Lack of healing is caused by a lack of faith which is Word of Faith doctrine to the core.
Søndergaard has created his own little belief system by “taking a little from some different” denomination,[16] for example, baptismal regeneration from the Catholics, speaking in tongues as the sign of baptism in the Holy Spirit from the Pentecostals, believer’s baptism as Baptists, and baptism to Jesus Christ not using the Trinitarian formula as Oneness Pentecostals.
Contrary to almost any other Christian denomination, he teaches that salvation for a Christian is completed through baptism in water not using the Trinitarian formula,[19] as well as through baptism in the Holy Spirit with the manifestation of speaking in tongues, often saying “dadadaadadadaa.”[20] [21][22][23][24] He also teaches that just as Jesus received the Holy Spirit through water baptism, it is through baptism that a Christian receives the Holy Spirit. Søndergaard regards receiving the Holy Spirit as having substituted receiving Jesus.[25]
Torben has visions and receives a book from God
Søndergaard claims to receive visions of Heaven and Hell directly from God. According to Torben Søndergaard, God made him time travel back to before he was born as a confirmation[27].
After fasting for 40 days Torben Søndergaard also believes that God revealed a self-help book for him,[28] saying “I will give you one chapter each day”.[29]
Todd Bentley and Torben Søndergaard’s Last Reformation
In 2003, Torben Søndergaard invited the controversial tele-evangelist and faith healer Todd Bentley to Denmark[34]. According to people present, Todd Bentley said:
“In the Bible, in John 5 provides a healing outpouring – the Pool of Bethesda, which means an outpouring of grace. The Bible says that a quantity of sick, blind, lame and crippled came to this place, the pool of Bethesda… “[35][36]
In 2015, Torben Søndergaard quoted this as a prediction of Torben Søndergaard’s own work in Denmark:
“10 years ago, a man came from the US to Denmark with a prophetic word to us our country. The word was that Denmark would become known as the Pool of Bethesda. That is a place where the sick could experience salvation and healing. He said that it would not only be one or two places, but it would be all over the country. Yes, no matter where you came in Denmark, there would be people who would ask for one and set one free… Yes, I believe we are seeing the fulfilment of the word that sounded over Denmark.” [35][37]
You can read more about Torben here!
Torben Søndergaard tries to explain Speaking in Tongues the Torben way:
…and acknowledges the Catholic Church from 1:42 in the video.
Charismatic Catholics at Mass all Speaking in Tongues.
If Pentecostalism believes that speaking in tongues is evidence of salvation:
- Are they saying that Roman Catholics who speak in tongues are born again as well?
Many Christians will fall into deception because of this ‘speaking in tongues’ phenomenon and the Spirit of Fire that accompanies speaking in tongues. Many genuine Christians will think they are missing out on something special if they don’t speak in gibberish – that God favours those who speak in tongues more than those who don’t. I mean let’s get serious now, how many of you reading this article thought to yourself, “why do they get this gift and I don’t? I want to speak to God in an unknown language as well!” It’s called jealously, wanting something that someone else has (all be it unbiblical and totally ungodly). And this sin of ‘jealousy‘ among other sins such as wanting the ‘power‘ to speak to God in an unknown language that makes the believer feel that because he/she can now speak in tongues they are on another spiritual level or more powerful than those who can’t, and don’t tell me you have never thought of this! Because you will be lying to yourself and worst of all God Himself.
Torben says himself at 6:44 into the ‘Speaking in Tongues video‘ above that speaking in tongues is an amazing gift that EVERYONE should have because if you are not baptised in the Holy Spirit well according to Torben you are not saved, and that speaking in tongues is an amazing tool God has given us to come into a strong prayer life and relationship with him.
So if you don’t speak in tongues you are:
- Not saved.
- Not spiritual enough.
- Have a weak personal relationship with Jesus Christ, or don’t have a relationship with Jesus Christ at all.
- Your prayers in your native language are so weak Jesus Christ does not even hear them, that’s why God prefers you to speak to Him in a prayer language instead.
- Or worst, you are possibly even demon possessed according to Torben and this is what is blocking the ‘false Holy Spirit’ from entering you and baptising you in FIRE.
Torben Søndergaard even speaks about people being baptised multiple times; two, three and even four times in the following video, and he quotes Acts 19 to back up this teaching. He says that people that were baptised by John the Baptist needed to be baptised again by the Holy Spirit. Torben in that instance yes, because their baptism was a baptism unto repentance, now they had to be baptised by the Holy Spirit into believing in Christ Jesus. Today believer’s are not baptised John the Baptist and there is no need to be re-baptised over and over and over again – they either believe by FAITH in Jesus Christ the Son of God or they don’t. Let’s have a look at Acts 19 shall we to see what the Bible has to say, not what Torben has to say:
Acts 19:1-7 1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2 He said to them, Have you received the Holy Ghost since you believed? And they said to him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said to them, To what then were you baptized? And they said, To John’s baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spoke with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve.
As we can see, being baptised by the Holy Spirit in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ doesn’t involve any laying on of hands, just BELIEVING. Paul needed these disciples to preach in the area and therefore laid hands on them and the Holy Spirit came upon them and they spoke with tongues (earthly languages) and prophesied. So TWO SEPERATE things happened here; 1) they were baptised by the Holy Spirit just by BELIEVING in Jesus Christ – no signs and wonders 2) Paul then needed them to go out and preach and he laid hands on them to speak in tongues (earthly languages) and prophecy. After the time of the book of Acts came to an end, speaking in tongues and prophecy ceased.
1 Corinthians 13:8 “Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.”
The FIRE that is called down from heaven in the last days by the Antichrist and his ‘ministers of righteousness’ (2 Corinthians 11:15) will lead to the wild fire spread of speaking in tongues.
Rev 13:13 “13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men”
The fire that is called down from heaven by the beast that being the Roman Catholic church is 1) spiritual/demonic which leads to a satanic awakening and 2) the Antichrist himself will call down actual fire from heaven in the sight of men.
CONCLUSION
Be careful, God will warn you many times that playing with FIRE is dangerous, and in the end will hand you over to the delusion you begged and pleaded for because you refuse to repent.
2 Thess 2:7-12 “7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
For all those caught up in this demonic mess and want to be set free please read this article: Seeking Salvation or Deliverance?
Minister Starker. We are not pulling down anyone. We are merely obeying God who commands us to test the spirits to see whether they are from God because MANY false prophets have gone out into the world (1 John 4:1). And indeed we must maintain the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace. However, this spirit must be the Spirit of Truth (John 16:13) and not another spirit.
From my experience people who blindly follow Torben and the Last Reformation tend to be shallow, immature very rude and judgmental if you don’t exclusively follow all their teachings like water baptism as a requirement for salvation and that everything is a demon that needs to be cast out. People who obsess about theological nuances like demonic possession and baptism tend to produce the same division they are complaining about. We need Bible-based Spirit-filled believers who know how to lead in love and truth, not arrogantly or obsessively and not teaching junk food. Spiritual warfare against demons are often focused on too much where true spiritual warfare requires heart healing, denying lies and walking in truth. [url removed]
Hi Tom & Deborah
Thank you for the work put into the site, and sharing the vast amount of information & your in depth work regarding movements and doctrines that have steered off to the left or to the right, or gone astray following traditions of men or doctrines of demons and basically fallen short of the WAY, TRUTH & LIFE of Jesus our Lord and Savior. I pray that His peace and mercy be upon you and every person that reads your material. Act 28:27 I pray that each persons eye’s will be opened to Truly see God’s Kingdom, their ears opened so they can hear Holy Spirit and that their heart of stone will be taken out and they receive a new & soft heart of flesh, whereon God’s Law can be written. I believe God is Sovereign and all things happen for a reason, as i came to this site after looking up Leon du Preez( Thanks again), but just when i wanted to share that post, i found this one.
1.Tom & Deborah, are you really saying that the baptism(Immersion) in water has no more power, does not form part of the Gospel & is worthless & can be disregarded completely?
2.Where did Jesus say that? Or when did he say Johns Baptism will pass away?
3.Aren’t all the epistles (Rom to Rev) written to baptized(fully immersed) communities who started taking up their cross to follow Jesus’ pattern1Ti 1:16?
The Strong’s concordance for the “one baptismG908” in Eph4:5
Outline of Biblical Usage
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g908/kjv/tr/0-1/
Why is there so many reference in the NT of God using blood(death) & water(life) from the OT in making a covenant with His people?
–1Pe 3:20-22 From the time of Noah (Gen6 -World buried under water)
–Gen 15:9-18 & Gen 17:9-14 Abraham and his Seed
–1Co 10:1-4 Israelites passing through the see(Baptized unto Moses)
This i believe: Jesus was emphasizing both the Water and His pending Holy Spirit in Jhn 3:5
“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
John spoke of this again in 1Jo 5:8
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Paul was using both water and Spirit so many times in his epistles
Romans 6-8
1Co 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Gal 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Titus 3:5 and many more
Hebrews 6:1-2(KJV) Says doctrines of Christ, and then uses a word “Baptisms”, yes go look it up, its plural….
Mat 21:25 The baptism G908 of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him?
Jesus Himself came back to give us this message in Rev 7:14 “These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”
John later said 1Jo 5:8
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Jesus also gave the great commission, in Mat 28:18-20 saying ” All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Personally i believe the great commission reflects the exact words used by Holy Spirit though Peter in Act 2:37-38, because those Jews were Cut to the heart(Joe 2:13), their only hope was to
1.Repent(turn back) to the Father
2.Be baptized(Water grave) into the death, burial & resurrection of Christ, to enter a covenant with God, through Jesus who sanctifies us with His Righteous Blood.
3.and receive the Holy Spirit of Jesus as their Helper and Comforter. Jhn 14:16
My testimony might not mean allot, but i was abruptly set free from a 30year porn & lust addiction, by
1.repenting to GOD the Father in FAITH
2.getting water baptized(immersed) on my faith in the name of Jesus
3.and receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit in faith with the signs of tongues, casting out demons and healing the sick with the laying on of hands in faith.
I’ve been porn and masturbation free from that very day.
Because of Jesus i:
Can look my daughters and my wife in the eye.
Can worn them of sin & bondage without feeling like a hypocrite
Have no more condemnation, because im walking in repentance, & am Spirit lead.
Our household is transformed, and being renewed daily by the Holy Spirit of Grace, by witch we are saved through faith in Jesus Christ our Lord.
Hi Shaun. Thank you for your comment. If water was able to wash away sins, we would have had no need of Jesus becoming flesh, of his cross, and of his blood. Beware of associating water with blood. The Bible distinctly says, “For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.” This is precisely why Jesus (God) had to become like us in all things except sin.
1 Peter 3:20. Have you ever noticed that Noah and his family were saved THROUGH water and not by being immersed IN water. They were floating ON water IN the ark which is a metaphor of Jesus Christ. Only those who were damned to eternal perdition were baptized (dunked UNDER/IN) the water.
Genesis 15:9; 17:9. I don’t see how this validates water baptism. Circumcision was not a foreshadow of water baptism. Jesus was circumcised when he was 8 days old, and He was baptised by John the Baptist when He was 30. And yet He said, “But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!” (Luke 12:50). Jesus fulfilled both circumcision and baptism. It is finished. Yet, there are millions who say to his face, “Sorry Jesus, but you neither fulfilled the law of circumcision nor water baptism. We are doing a better job than what you had done by allowing sinful men whose hands we do not know what they may have been doing to baptise us in lots and lots of water.”
1 Corinthians 10:1. Perhaps you should read the whole passage up to verse 12. Only Joshua and Caleb and their wives and sons and daughters were ultimately allowed to enter the Promised Land. The rest all succumbed in the desert because of their sins and disbelief. You cannot use this passage to validate water baptism.
1 John 3:5. Jesus was emphasizing water and the Holy Spirit? Are you serious? I must say your eisegesis is astonishing. It says He was manifested (incarnated) to take away our sins while there was no sin in Him. In other words, the Innocent One died for us, the guilty. Once again, you are putting water H2O on par with the blood of Jesus, and that, my friend is very, very dangerous.
John 3:5. So, are you saying that water baptism is necessary to be saved and receive eternal life? The one thing you’ve missed is that water is mentioned first and then the Holy Spirit. If we should respect simple grammar and honour the first mentioned in sentences, it means that one must first be saved by water before you can receive the Holy Spirit. That’s not biblical. It is plain heresy.
You wrote: “Paul was using both water and Spirit so many times in his epistles.” Have you forgotten that Paul also said, “For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.” (1 Corinthians 1:17). Wow Paul, how dare you suggest that water baptism is not a central part of the Gospel of God?
1 Corinthians 6:11. Are you sure what the difference is between washing with water and washing by blood? When I have worked in our garden the whole day, my body picks up dirt, mud and muck and do not need to go to Jesus to ask Him to cleanse me. I turn on the water in our shower and, lo and behold, all the dirt, dust etc. are washed away in a few minutes. However, when I have sinned and defiled my soul, I MUST go to Jesus and plead with Him to wash me with his blood. (Hebrews 9:22).
I think I have said enough.
What you said is correct. There are so many trying to warn others about this man. Those that don’t see what this man is doing, are not filled with the Holy Spirit. Jesus died for US and it was done perfectly! Torben dunks these people in trash cans how insulting!Those that defend this man, are his Cult Members and they have no problem threatening those that speak out against him. They also love to twist God’s word! They have been caught lying and now they are backtracking and removing videos as fast as they can. It’s very alarming that so many “Christians” are following this man.
To Shaun Fourie
I do wonder if there is some boastfulness in your baptism i.e. Jesus plus works…