Why Jonathan Cahn and His Revelations Must be Ignored
Why Jonathan Cahn, His Mysteries, Keys and Revelations Must be Ignored
Rabbi Jonathan Cahn has been bothering me with his “The Harbinger” and now “The Mystery of the Shemitah” ‘revelations‘. Who is he exactly? Is he a born again Christian or is far worse than just your plain run of the mill false teacher?
He calls himself a Rabbi yet the bible says:
Matthew 23:8 “8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.”
He has been labelled a modern day prophet as he brings a prophetic message with The Harbinger where he blatantly implies that America is treading the same path for judgment as ancient Israel and connects Isaiah 9:10 to America. The Harbinger was published by FrontLine, an imprint of Charisma House which used to be known as Strang Communications run by Steve Strang who is part of the New Apostolic Reformation.
Israel and a New World…
The main problem with The Harbinger is that Jonathan Cahn equates America to be a replacement of Israel, a New Israel. He says in his book:
The Prophet: “But there was one other-a civilization also conceived and dedicated to the will of God from its conception . . . America. In fact, those who laid its foundations . . .”
Noriel Kaplan: “The Founding Fathers.”
The Prophet: “No, long before the Founding Fathers. Those who laid America’s foundations saw it as the new Israel, an Israel of the New World. And as it was with ancient Israel, they saw it as in covenant with God.“
This is unbiblical. Jonathan Cahn is claiming that the Pilgrims (America’s founders who were Puritans – Calvinists) constituted America to be in a covenant relationship with God like Israel is in a covenant with God. This is of course a lie, but they believed it never the less. He claims that America replaces Israel as the new Israel for a New World…Order. Israel is the only nation in a covenant relationship with God that was established through Abraham.
Here he says it again on Glen Becks show. Glen Beck is a Mormon. Why would a christian like Jonathan Cahn appear on a Mormon’s show?
2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Jonathan Cahn On Glenn Beck’s TV show (A Mormon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQnF9WGNW-U
Another country who also believes they are the New Israel is Britain, with the British Royal Family believing that they are descendants of King David. This is of course a lie. But they believe it never the less. This is called British Israelism (also called Anglo-Israelism).
Freemasons, other occultists and unbelievers can’t stand the fact that Israel is God’s chosen nation and will do anything to replace Israel, literally and spiritually.
The King Solomon connection
Jonathan Cahn says in The Harbinger:
Kaplan: “Some link between this city and the ancient vow,” I said. “Somehow Isaiah 9:10 has to be connected to Washington DC.” (p.61)
George Washington – Freemason
The Prophet: “Solomon was the king of Israel. Washington was the first president of the United States. There was something in the linking of ancient Israel and America, as with all the other mysteries.”(p.109)
King Solomon was appointed by God Himself to be king. George Washington was elected via vote to be President. There is a big difference between the two. George Washington was also a Freemason. When George Washington spoke of God, he was referring to Lucifer, not the God of the bible. Freemasons are besotted with claiming Israel for themselves. The Pilgrims who proclaimed a false covenant with God were most likely Freemasons as well hence they could come up with such nonsense as to claim America to be the New Israel.
Freemasons also worship King Solomon who they believed to be the greatest magus (sorcerer) of all time. Is that why Jonathan Cahn connects King Solomon to George Washington because it’s a satanic connection?
“The purpose of Masonry’s veneration of Solomon is not to advance an alternate view of history, but to present, however subtly, the archetype of the future human being — men and women who truly possess Solomon’s Key — the power to master our own demons and redirect their destructive energy to build the Temple of our own evolving soul.” —Lon Milo DuQuette, The Key to King Solomons Keys – Is this the lost symbol of Masonry, Second Edition
So who is Jonathan Cahn then and what does he believe?
Well if you go to his website it says:
“Jonathan Cahn is President of Hope of the World ministries, Senior Pastor and Messianic Rabbi of the the Jerusalem Center/ Beth Israel in Wayne, New Jersey. He is also the author of the best selling book ‘The Harbinger‘. His teachings are broadcast daily over hundreds of radio stations throughout the United States and the world and on television. He ministers, as did the first Jewish messengers of the Gospel, sharing the message of Messiah to Jew and Gentile, Israel, and the nations. He has ministered before mass gatherings in India, Nigeria, Cuba, Mizoram, Honduras, Haiti, & throughout the world. His teachings are widely known for revealing the deep mysteries of God’s word and for the restoring of the new covenant message to its original biblically Jewish richness and power.” [Emphasis added] —http://www.bethisraelworshipcenter.org/aboutjonathan.htm
That is very interesting. So Jonathan Cahn knows the deep mysteries of God’s Word that Christians don’t know? And only Jonathan Cahn can reveal these mysteries to us? Jonathan Cahn’s plan is also to restore the message that Jesus Christ preaches to it’s original Jewish richness and power. So until Jonathan Cahn came along all born again believers for the last 2000+ years that have been reading the Scriptures were reading a bible that had no value and no authority what-so-ever. Isn’t that nice, that Jonathan Cahn came to save the day.
What does he mean by all ‘richness and power’? Does he mean that we need to infuse the Bible with Kaballah mysticism in order to understand it properly?
Here is another version of his biography that was on his website but the link has now been removed:
“Jonathan Cahn is President of Hope of the World ministries….Descended of the line of Aaron, he has been asked to sound the Jubilee trumpet and minister among the nations, a prophetic ministry of and to the Jew and the Gentile in the last days. His teachings include the revealing of ancient mysteries, the depth and wonders of God’s Word, and the restoration of the Gospel message in its original Biblically Jewish context, richness, and power.”
Who asked him to sound the Jubilee trumpet? And what does that mean exactly? Here he states that his ministry is a prophetic ministry. As Christians we know that there is no such thing as a prophetic ministry. People will only begin to prophesy again in the last days (during the Tribulation):
Acts 2:17-18 “And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:” 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:” (Joel 2:28)
There is a movement called the ‘Hebrew Roots Movement’ where they believe that you cannot understand the bible unless you go back to your Hebrew ways (become like the Jews) and read extra biblical sources such as the Midrash, Zohar and the Talmud etc., to gain a higher enlightenment of the Scriptures.
The Berean Call says:
“The late Jewish scholar and researcher of first century life in Israel, David Flusser, said rightly; “Jesus was a Jew in every way” ( Jewish Sources in Early Christianity , Adama Books, New York, 1987, p.7). There is absolutely no denying that Jesus was born a Jew and lived an observant Jewish life. He did this to fulfill completely every demand of the law, He did it for us (Romans:8:1-4), and He continues to do it in us if we are true believers.
So if we want to be like Jesus, does that mean that we must become observant Jews, as some allege? Is that what being like Jesus really means? Should Gentile believers try to be Messianic Jews? Can they? Should Gentiles don a yarmulke, worship in a synagogue, blow a shofar, wear a prayer shawl, call Jesus Yeshua or Yeshu, keep the Old Testament feasts and dietary laws, and give their pastors the title of Rabbi, even though Matthew:23:8 says otherwise? Are Jewish ceremonies and practices efficacious?
Do we need to restore first century or later Jewish practices to really be good Christians? The Pharisees practiced all the ceremonies, but theirs is a cautionary tale since Jesus told them that they did these things in vain (Matthew:15:7-9, See also Matthew 23).
So, is Jewishness next to godliness? One very modern movement would answer the question with a loud-“yes, more or less!” This growing movement is called the Hebrew Roots Movement (HRM). Unfortunately, it lacks a shared, coherent, consistent theology, an internal mechanism of doctrinal control, and it is filled with mavericks who seem to be making it up as they go along in terms of attachment to Jewish accoutrements.” Continue to read this article: Bewitching Believers Through the Hebrew Roots Movement
Did the Zohar greatly shaped Jonathan Cahn’s writings?
10 Sephirot – Zohar – Kaballah
I had no idea we needed to be taught NEW revelations from Gnostics books such as the Zohar (part of the Kabbalah). In this video below we see Jonathan Cahn preaching new revelations about the Bible from an extra-biblical source the Zohar.
The Zohar (Hebrew: זֹהַר, lit. “Splendor” or “Radiance”) is the foundational work in the literature of Jewish mystical thought known as Kabbalah.[1] It is a group of books including commentary on the mystical aspects of the Torah (the five books of Moses) and scriptural interpretations as well as material on mysticism, mythical cosmogony, and mystical psychology. The Zohar contains discussions of the nature of God, the origin and structure of the universe, the nature of souls, redemption, the relationship of Ego to Darkness and “true self” to “The Light of God”. Its scriptural exegesis can be considered an esoteric form of the Rabbinic literature known as Midrash, which elaborates on the Torah. — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zohar
Watch Jonathan Cahn: Zohar – Golgotha (1)
Jonathan Cahn’s response regarding his quoting the Zohar (Q&A from here):
Question: It is stated that Jonathan Cahn “says that Zohar, an extra biblical, mystical source from which the occult and mystical Kabbalah is derived, greatly influenced his writing.”
Answer: “Unfortunately this kind of statements represents some of the extreme and bizarre opposition to The Harbinger – It is an extreme false accusation. No. I have never in my life said that the Zohar has greatly influenced my writing – nor has it ever. What this accusation is taken from and twisted out of recognition from – Is that I have in some special teachings shared quotes found in the rabbinic writings which unwittingly bear witness of the truth of the Gospel – things that most Jewish people have no idea of – such as Isaiah 53 being about the Messiah, or God being Three in One, Messiah dying for our sins [DTW Note: Isaiah 53 in our Bible clearly describes the suffering of Jesus Christ. Why does Cahn need to appeal to occult, mystic Jewish documents like the Zohar/Kabbalah to get Jewish people to listen? Isn’t reading the Bible itself sufficient for Cahn?], or a connection made between the mercy of God and the word “Golgotha.” These things can be used to share the Gospel. This has been a standard method of apologetics and evangelism for ages. Rabbinical writings, mystical or otherwise, have been quoted for ages, in Bible commentaries, apologetics, works such as The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah, etc. To take this and then present it as if I or any Christian pastor or scholar is a secret follower of such things because they used a quote to bear witness of the Gospel is, as, one minister friend of mine would say – shameful at best. It should not have even appeared in print.
The apostle Paul actually quoted from a pagan hymn to Zeus in order to share the truth of the Gospel at Mars Hill. [DTW Note: This argument has used by many heretics to justify their quoting Catholics, Buddhists, etc.] If we were to then to accuse him of being into Zeus worship, or that pagan writings were behind the epistles, or accuse of him of being secretly pagan – I would think we would need to repent. It’s called bearing false witness.”
Sorry, for me the logic does not follow. If Cahn is the born again Christian that he claims, he should condemn the ungodly, occult Zohar/Kaballah. He should not quote it, except in condemnation of its passages.
Let’s look at it another way – would a born again, biblically sound Christian:
… quote from a Catholic document to evangelize Catholics because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
… quote from a Mormon document to evangelize Mormons because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
… quote from a Jehovah’s Witnesses document to evangelize Jehovah’s Witnesses because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
… quote from a New Age document to evangelize New Agers because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
… quote from a Wiccan document to evangelize Wiccans because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
… quote from a Satanic document to evangelize Satanists because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
The answer is an emphatic NO, a born again Christians does not use and does not need extra biblical sources to preach the gospel.
Is Jonathan Cahn possibly a Freemason?
Who do we as Christian know that delve into Gnostic teachings such as the Kabbalah etc? Freemasons of course. Is Jonathan Cahn a Freemason? A picture is worth a thousand words:
Do you need some more proof? The picture below shows Jonathan Cahn showing the Hebrew letter for Shin ( ש) hand sign in Kabbalah, made popular by Dr Spok in Star Trek also known as the Vulcan salute. See here as Nelson Mandela does the same Freemason hand sign.
The Hebrew letter ש Shin is the twenty-first letter of the Kabbalistic alphabet
The Shemitah 2015
The Berean Call says:
This imposed Shemitah judgment was very specific and involved only the nation of Israel . Since no Gentile nations were ever obligated to keep the Shemitah, there is no scriptural basis for suggesting that any other nation would ever experience an imposed Shemitah judgment. Yet, this is precisely what Jonathan Cahn suggests that America has experienced.
Cahn also wrongly implies that the Shemitah is essentially a universal principle that is somehow integrated into the order of the universe. Cahn makes the following assertion in his book:
[KAPLAN] “Seven years-the biblical period of time that concerns a nation’s financial and economic realms.” [This and all quotes are taken from: Jonathan Cahn, The Harbinger (Lake Mary, FL: Frontline, Charisma Media/Charisma House Book Group, 2011)]
Although Israel was on a seven-year economic cycle, no biblical passages support Cahn’s idea that natural economic cycles of seven years exist for nations in general. Furthermore, financial experts have not identified any seven-year economic cycle. —http://www.thebereancall.org/content/october-2014-extra-shemitah
If anything happens during The Shemitah (September 2015), it’s not because of God and a connection to Isaiah 9:10, it’s because the Freemasons who control this world are pushing the buttons and they are making things happen (in cycles of 7 as it’s a ‘magic’ number) for their own purposes to further the progress of a New World Order.
Here is Christine Lagarde from the IMF who tells us that the Illuminati are also very interested in the number 7 and cycles of 7.
Jonathan Cahn is using these Harbinger and Shemitah fables to catch millions of unsuspecting Christians into thinking that it’s God’s timing and God’s hand at work, when in fact it’s Satan’s timing, and Satan’s hand at work.
Occult Teachings:
Title: Jonathan Cahn on TBN: God of all Nations
Why would a Christian like Jonathan Cahn appear on the Vatican’s television channel called TBN?
God is not God of all nations, he is not God of this world. Satan is god of this world.
2 Corinthians 4:4 “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
Satan is the prince of this world:
John 12:31 “Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.”
We read that Satan influences the unsaved people of this world, he influences unbeliever’s hopes, dreams, ideals and opinions etc.
Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
So then who is the God of all nations? None other than Satan of course.
2 Kings 17:29 “Howbeit every nation made gods of their own, and put them in the houses of the high places which the Samaritans had made, every nation in their cities wherein they dwelt.”
For Jonathan Cahn who claims to be a Christian to not know who the god of this world is, is shocking to say the least. His god is Satan, and his god is ruling this world.
FALSE TEACHING FROM JONATHAN CAHN
I have chosen below a couple of videos from this list on Cahn’s website and found the corresponding video on Youtube where Jonathan teaches occult teachings:
Title: The Alpha Light
So who is this Alpha light Jonathan Cahn is speaking about? The Bible says about God, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.” (Revelation 22:13) It does not say I am the Alpha light. Cahn also says “From the beginning of creation to the incarnation and the resurrection, it all begins with light” This is a lie, it all began with the Word. The bible says,
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” (John 1:1)
Alpha is the first letter of the Greek alphabet. Omega is the last letter of the Greek alphabet. In modern usage it would mean “from A to Z”. By combining the two, Alpha and Omega it signifies completeness. In reference to Jesus Christ it signifies His completeness and demonstrates Him to be the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Jesus is complete. He was with God in the beginning and He will be with God in the end. Jesus is the beginning and the ending.
Who then is this Alpha light who was at the beginning according to Jonathan Cahn. The bible refers to Satan as being an “angel of light” in 2 Corinthians 11:14-15. Lucifer is a Latin word that means “light bearer”. It comes from the translation of Isaiah 14:12 where Satan is called (hay-lale’) in hebrew meaning “the morning-star” (in the sense of brightness) and it’s root word means “to shine”. So as we can see Satan is seen as someone who gives light. Satan tried to usurp God’s throne, the bible says:
Isaiah 14:13-14 “13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.”
Now we can see why Satan in Luciferianism refers to himself as the Alpha light because he is still trying to be higher than God. Jonathan Cahn says, “Learn the secret of using the Alpha Light in every circumstance to change everything”. What he is saying is this, learn to use Satan the Alpha light, instead of Jesus Christ – the way, the truth and the life.
Let’s hear what Freemasons have to say:
LUCIFER PRAISED AS THE LIGHT-BEARER OF FREEMASONRY
“Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!” [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p. 321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff; Red Emphasis added]
What a revelation! From the first degree, the first Initiation, the Mason is urged mightily to “seek the Light“! The average Mason is continually saying that he is “seeking the Light”, and will spend his entire life “moving toward the Light”. Almost every person in Western Civilization will assume that this “Light” is the revelation of the God of the Bible; indeed, this statement is held up continuously to try to convince us that Masonry is Christian. Yet, here, Albert Pike is saying that Lucifer is the One who bears the Light of Freemasonry! Lucifer is the Light-bearer of Freemasonry —http://www.cuttingedge.org/free11.html
Title: The State of Onement
A state on onement? Jonathan Cahn says: “…the bible itself is about becoming one with God. Most believers never enter it, but you can” This is clearly a higher level of spirituality of some kind, because until now only some Christians have attained it. Jonathan Cahn will give you the secret on how you can enter into a state of becoming one with God. Occultists like to take the word “atonement” and break it down to another word “at-one-ment”.A truly born again child of God does not need to become “at-one-ment” or figure out how to find the “state of onement” with God because Jesus said,
John 14:20 “In that day [His resurrection] you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.”
When you come born again, He made us one with Himself, His (our) Father and the Holy Spirit. You don’t have to figure out how to become at-one with God and neither do you become a god because of this.
New Agers believe that “you are not separate from God; every person is born a piece of God.” In order to be “at-one-ment” with God you need to meditate and believe that God is in everyone and everything including yourself. A “state of oneness” means that you need to find the Christ within, and become a God.
Jonathan Cahn teaches that he will give you the keys on how to enter in becoming one with God after you are saved – those who teach that people need to become one with God are proclaiming another Gospel, another Jesus and another spirit.
Please read this article that explains more about At-one-ment or Oneness theory: Guilt by Association
Conclusion
Jonathan Cahn is a Freemason leading million of Christians astray with his new revelations, keys and mysteries. He appears on every false teachers TV show and tickles peoples ears with this false teachings. People need to ignore this man and his teachings. We are living in the last of the last days and I believe there are going to be more men like Jonathan Cahn (possibly from a messianic stand point) coming to the forefront however they will be even more charismatic and even more deceiving, so much so that if it were possible even the Elect would be deceived. Please note, he does not believe in the Rapture and believes Christians are going to go through the Tribulation.
Matthew 24:24 “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
Please read all comments below (I know there are a lot) as Jonathan Cahn is exposed even more.
Dear Darla
You said “Christians need to wake up. They are missing the revival that is going on.”
If a Christian is born again, saved, what revival are you then speaking about? What MORE do I need to KNOW to add to my salvation, that will make me MORE saved than I already am? I know I am a Gentile saved by Grace. I do not need to go back to Law and put myself under a curse.
Tell me do you study the Kaballah, and why is God’s name a ‘secret’ on your website that you need a password to enter the article? Is it only for the initiated that you then get access to God’s name?
Bible says: Luke 8:17 (KJV) 17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
You do now that the Rauch is the Kabbalah version of the ‘Holy Spirit’ that awakens your mind to all sorts of forbidden knowledge?
If your accusations are true, how do you explain the numbers, the dates, and the events recorded in actual history? You could easily refute Cahn if one of the these were not true. I did not read one fact that Cahn stated in dates or events that was not true. How do you reconcile the fact that in Mysteries, each day is given with scripture backing? I always look at the fruit, and the fruit of your article is not informative, it is pharaseeish, and hateful.
Larry
You are the one who is being hateful. Replacement Theology (the belief that America has replaced Israel and is now the new Israel, in the sense of God having made a similar covenant with America) brings into play the curse in Genesis 12:3, “And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” The slightest effort to deviate from God’s covenant with Israel and apply it to any other nation, is not only hatred of Israel but also of God who made the covenant. And by the way, Cahn’s description of how to be saved is totally unbiblical.
Larry
Dave James, who is the author of The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction? and Biblical Guide to the Shemitah and the Blood Moons, wrote:
If somebody in the Old Testament – let’s say that 999 times out of 1,000 they got it right, simply because they were good guessers, or they knew human nature, whatever; Solomon said, “There’s nothing new under the sun.” There are things that repeat, and you and I can say to one of our kids, for example, “If you do this, I can promise you that this is going to happen,” that doesn’t make us a prophet. But the point is this: if somebody got it right 999 times out of 1,000, but one time – even one time – they got it wrong, you would end up dead, according to the law of Moses, because there was no room for somebody to miss even one prophecy! And yet, we have guys today, like Jonathan Cahn and those who are actually helping and promoting him, who get things wrong consistently. In fact, you can even find it in writing where people like John Wimber would say, “If somebody today – a prophet today – gets it right 50 percent of the time, he’s a good prophet.” Well, in the Scriptures, that would cost you your life! So this is serious business.
He continues to say:
those who have him on their program [Charisma Media], whether it be Sid Roth, or Jim Bakker, they’re promoting this, and they have figured out a formula that I call, and maybe you’ve called it this as well, the “Wow” factor. You can dazzle people with the “Wow” factor, and when you hit on a couple of things where people go “Wow! That has to be beyond coincidence. God must involved,” you’ve caught them. And in fact, in my book, when I responded to The Harbinger in my book, The Harbinger: Fact or Fiction?, I used two illustrations from history. There was a book that came out prior to the sinking of The Titanic, and the parallels in this novel were stunningly close to what actually happened many years later – a number of years later (a couple decades, I think) – with the sinking of The Titanic.
And then people have also pointed out, too, the parallels between Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. And if you read these things, you’d think, “Wow! This is amazing!” But they don’t tell you the things where there was no match, and so this “Wow” factor causes people to, honestly…they check their brains at the door. And the other thing that I think is so important in this whole issue is: when I teach my students, it’s not just that I’m teaching you the material. I’m teaching you both how to teach the material – the biblical material – and I’m also teaching you a method of biblical interpretation. So, when Jonathan Cahn and others start drawing these parallels and saying, “This is the way you handle and interpret the Word of God,” they’re teaching a method of interpretation, and so this actually multiplied this false-prophecy and false-teacher factor, because you’re actually engaging a whole generation of people to change the way they’re actually understanding the Word of God.
Jonathan Cahn, like all the others, Jim Bakker, Sid Roth, and Charisma Media are all false prophets and only in it for the money.
Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake. (Tit 1:9-11)
1st Thes 5:20
I promise you Jonathan Cahn is legit. His primary message is: “You must be born again.” Harbingers, Isaiah 9:10, Paradigm of the kings us absolutely mind blowing. They come with two conclusions: 1. Romans 1:16 and 2. These are the days of Elijah (stand on the truth).
Take a deep breath, take your time, and re-examine his work. I promise you will absolutely be blessed. God bless you.
Dear Wayne
You said “I promise you Jonathan Cahn is legit”
And I must believe you because you say so? The evidence that Johanthan Cahn is overwelmingly false far out weighs the so called truth he speaks. For instance, TB Joshua too tells you that ‘you must be born again’. Benny Hinn too says ‘you must be born again’. The difference between a false prophet who says ‘you must be born again’ vs. a true man of God who says “you must be born again” is that the TRUE MAN OF GOD speaks the truth and nothing but the Godly truth, not a tad of truth mixed with a whole bunch of error. Wake up Wayne, you are been taken for a fool.
You said “Take a deep breath, take your time, and re-examine his work. I promise you will absolutely be blessed. God bless you.”
I don’t have to re-examine his work when the ERRORS are so glaringly obvious. How about you PRAY (instead of take a breath) and re-examine his work so that the Holy Spirit can show you the errors; that is a true blessing – to be ripped out of a false teachers grasp.
Jonathan Cahn is teaching Gentiles the Kabbalah.
Deborah thank you for fighting the good fight. You are a true blessing. I hope you and Dave are well. -Eric Miller
Hi Eric
I think you have me mixed up with David and Deborah Dombrowski from Lighthouse Trails. As much as I like LHT, I am not Deborah Dombrowski, I am Deborah Ellish from South Africa, and Tom Lessing the other admin and writer here on Discerning the World is from South Africa too.
But thank you never the less for your comment :yay:
Oh yes I sure did 😀 sounded so much like her! Regardless, thank you for your dedication to defending the Gospel. It is getting much more of a challenge to take a stand for truth these days. As you and I both know, we should not be surprised. I will be praying for your ministry and for God to continue to give you wisdom. Thanks again -Eric Miller
Dear Eric :hi:
No worries, glad you found us :thumbsup: and thank you for praying for us – we certainly need it in this day and age. The attacks against the gospel are getting so severe I ponder what could happen next…oh wait… a new book is out just out hot off the press on the Nephilim :horrified:
WHAT? Nephilim? Not again!!! Who’s going to conduct the marriages between demons and earthly women? “I now pronounce you Nephilim and wife.”
It’s true, I tell you…
I think the pastor who conducts the marriages is Ryan Pitterson the writer of the book, a possible Nephilim himself. I mean goodness who knows who could be a Reptillian nowadays under that human outfit.
I wonder how they tell who is Nephilim and who isn’t? If you are taller than the average person? If you are stronger than the average person? If you look like George Soros, or the Queen of England. Oh gosh…. how to tell? :wonder: I am sure there will be a blood test out one of these days to determine if you are a Nephilim :laugh:
Ryan Pitterson says
So it wasn’t Noah’s faith in God that saved him, no no…says Pitterson it was because they had uncorrupted DNA.
Now I have heard it all…
So no longer is it demon possession, it’s DNA possession. :dazed:
And look who is promoting this book? Prophecy News Watch – Koinonia House’s (Chuck Missler et al) shadow prophecy news channel run by an ex-employee Kade Hawkins.
I am the Alpha light. Cahn also says “From the beginning of creation to the incarnation and the resurrection
Jonathon Chan never says this in that video you are clearly lying. Don’t believe Deborah people. click the videos people you will see for yourself
Dear Damien
Jonathan Cahn’s summary of his video says
No it does not, it begins with the WORD. Light does not have the power to change anything, but Jesus Christ who is the WORD, oh yes, HE HAS THE POWER to change everything.
There are no secrets in the gospel, nothing hidden, so why must we learn the ‘secret’ of this Alpha light?
This is what Kabbalists have to say about the Alpha light
This light according to occultists is the supposed “divine light” or “divine spark” we all have inside of us for us to nurture and set ablaze as we realise that we are in fact gods – this is a lie from the pit of hell.
I came to this site out of curiosity. I enjoy moving through different Christian sites to learn, enjoy, and read different opinions. Of all the different sites I have been on, I have never read more angry, hateful, self righteous crap being spewed by Christians at Christians. I will never return. :nope:
Jesus Christ said, “I am the Way, the TRUTH and the Life.” Are you going to say to Him, “I will never return?”
You are being very subjective by not giving us any reasons to believe we are wrong.
Rose
Awwwww…look how sweet and lovable of Rose to spew her “angry, hateful, self righteous crap” at us. You prefer sites it seems where everyone is in UNITY no matter what doctrine is spewed out of so called ‘Christian’ people’s mouths.
As Tom said, you didn’t give us a reason why we are wrong, but I can guess that you are a Jonathan Cahn follower and you are upset we have exposed him.
Jonathan Cahn, was a true minister of Righteousness when he was first called into the ministry of the Gospel of our Lord and Savour Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, like many, Cahn looked in the mirror one too many times and fell in love with himself and the desire for money. This is not an isolated incident as many Pastors today love their ministry and position above the Truth of Gods Word and sell themselves out to be applauded, praised and to make a name for themselves as well as get fat off of the flock. American Christianity, for the most part, does not reflect the Teachings of Christ most especially, when it comes to the Body of Christ (I am NOT talking about Catholicism which is the Harlot with many children) = church buildings are not Churches of Christ, they are businesses built and established by men and for man, not God.
I would also point out that the Apostle Paul clearly spelled out for us that the Rapture will not occur until the Man of Sin is Revealed ( II Thes. Ch 2). As far as the Tribulation is concerned for Us who are covered and washed in the Blood of the Lamb, the Tribulation Period began 2000 Years ago when Christ told us that ” If they hated Me they will hate you also who believe” along with Peter and Paul admonishing us that “Through many tribulations we must enter the Kingdom of God” ( Acts 14:22) and “Grow in Christ” ( I Peter 1:6-7).
Those who worship Pre-Trib Dogma do so against Scripture. The Rapture will come to us just as Jesus, Paul, John, Peter and the Prophets ( Daniel, Elijah) have foretold. Pray for Jonathan Cahn to be delivered from :hi: the deception of Pride. Please pray for me as I am a Father/Husband going through very hard trials that have me in ‘Job like’ unexplained sufferings. God Bless and thank you, David K in NJ
[Edited by DTW – your comment landed in our SPAM section, I have removed it to the comments section and we will answer you shortly]
I have three questions and they are not all related to Jonathon Cahn.
1) Have you read the following books: Sitting at The Feet Of Rabbi Jesus, Walking in the Dust if Rabbi Jesus, and Reading the Bible with Rabbi Jesus by Lois Tverberg , and if so, any comments?
2) You seem to have major concerns about people who are Catholic even tho they are Christians. Are they not?
3) I “discern” you have major concerns about Jonathon Cahn’s teachings, but have you had contact with him to discuss many things he is verbalizing in his books, videos, etc. it would be interesting to you debate him. Like the political debates 😉
That is all for now?
Hi Jacki
1) I personally haven’t read any of Lois Tverberg’s books. A cursory examination on the Internet left me with the impression that she wants to make us believe that Christianity throughout the ages never got it right because they never understood the Jewish context of Jesus’ words.
For instance, in her book, “Walking in the Dust of Rabbi Jesus,” she explains the significance of the word Shema and makes it a starting point for understanding Yeshua who said, “For him who has ears to hear.” She explains to readers who may be unaware of the significance of “hear in order to obey” as a key to following Yeshua. From there she proceeds to the “love God” command and adds depth from the Jewish practice of looking for meaning in the exact working of Torah. She draws on the mystery of the final word in the love God command, which might be rendered love God “with all your muchness.” She points out that we do not have to choose between three interpretations, but can accept all three as layers: with all your strength, with all your intelligence, and also with all your increase (meaning income, so that you love God by giving to those in need).
Giving to the poor is indeed a wonderful thing but it does not prove that you love God. Paul said: “And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.” (1 Corinthians 13:3). She says that Jesus’ words can change your life. If that was true, why did the nation of Israel, whose had his words for centuries, reject their own Messiah? His words alone can not save or change your life. It is faith in Him and his words that save and change you. Many so-called Christians, among them Roman Catholics and the Emergent church, believe they only need to emulate Him and his words and to follow Him in the dust to be changed. You may as well sit at the feet at an Eastern mystic guru’s feet and follow him in the dust; it won’t benefit you one single bit.
Roman Catholics, like so many billions of other people, are only Christians in name because they have a different gospel. I know of several ex-Roman Catholics who got saved but left their church because they could no longer go along with their doctrines of demons. (Revelation 19:4).
Jonathan Cahn can read, can’t he? Let him read the articles DTW has written about him to warn the Bride of Christ.
Dear Jacki J
I do believe Johnathan Cahn has read this article as he did a youtube video where he lambasted websites (no names mentioned) for speaking out against him. And he made a point of mentioning something that I said in this article that is not mentioned on any other article on the internet. I had a seriously good chuckle, as I immediately realised it was DTW he was referring too.
If you feel he has not seen this article that appears in Google search when you search for his name, then please by all means do your duty and inform him and send him the link.
Dear David
You said “Jonathan Cahn, was a true minister of Righteousness”
Ok I have to ask, so you’re saying he was born again (a minister of Righteousness) in the beginning, and then he lost his salvation (and became Satan’s minister 2 Cor 11:13-15) after becoming greedy?
You said “Those who worship Pre-Trib Dogma do so against Scripture.”
No we worship Jesus Christ.
But let’s throw your comment back at you…so you worship non pre-trib dogma right? righttt…
I see you too believe the church has to be purified, tried by fire as it were… Can you explain this doctrine of purification to me please? 🙂
Deborah,
I do not know Jonathan Cahn personally. Do you know him personally? I am aware of but not too familiar with what he has said and taught with regards to the Harbinger and the Shemitah. Is the purpose of your article to discredit, Jonathan Cahn?
You make some statements I would like to further explore:
Who do we as Christian know that delve into Gnostic teachings such as the Kabbalah etc? Freemasons of course. Is Jonathan Cahn a Freemason? A picture is worth a thousand words:
Do you need some more proof? The picture below shows Jonathan Cahn showing the Hebrew letter for Shin ( ש) hand sign in Kabbalah, made popular by Dr Spok in Star Trek also known as the Vulcan salute.
Where did you get your information? I like to know these things before I consider sharing posts/articles/blogs etc. with others.
Thank you and best regards.
YSIC
Dear Dawn
I do not know you and you don’t know me personally either. Everything I believe is on this website for all to read and scrutinize.
Just as you speak to me using the internet, I speak to you using the internet and get all my info from the internet, that includes: Jonathan Cahn’s youtube videos and website.
The purpose of my article is to EXPOSE a false teacher, so having said that…
Let me ask more pressing questions shall we, because of the 203 comments so far, pretty much everyone (including you) that has commented has ignored these few VERY IMPORTANT things (way more important than the TWO pictures of Johnathan Cahn using masonic hand-signs) and this I find utterly fascinating. So I should like to ask you what you think.
Let’s start:
1) Do you agree with his use of the Zohar (the Kabbalah which is occult) to explain scripture – see video?
2) Do you agree with his doctrine on “State of Onement” – see video?
3) Do you agree with his doctrine of “The Alpha Light” – see video?
While we are at it, do you agree with the giant statue of Jesus (0.25 seconds) shown to Johnathan Cahn and he says “THANK YOU” on the Jim Bakker show? (See video below). Jim Bakker is a false teacher too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6uMr8ZZbwE
GRAVEN IMAGE (IDOL):
Exodus 20:4-6 “4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.”
Deuteronomy 4:16-18 “16Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female, 17The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air, 18The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:”
Leviticus 26:1 “Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.”
Isaiah 42:8 “I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.”
In fact if you look on youtube it looks like Johnathan Cahn has appeared on pretty much every false teachers TV show. Jonathan Cahn appeared on Pat Robertson’s show multiple times. (Pat Robertson is a Freemason). There is even a video of Jonathan Cahn giving Pat Robertson a masonic handshake and calling him ‘brother’ – but right now I’m having a problem finding that video…oh well, it will show up when I am probably not looking for it.
I would like to add that false teachers preach a lot of truth, so does Jonathan Cahn, listening to him and his history lessons can be quite entertaining and this is where he catches people, they think “this guy speaks so much truth, he must be a man from God” and then Jonathan Cahn slips in his false teachings that end up leading people down a very wide path.
Hebrew Roots teaching is false teaching. Hebrew roots teaches that if you don’t go back to the Jewish root of things, you won’t make it to heaven, you are missing out, your salvation is worthless.
It would be so much easier for everyone in the church if false teachers walked in with hats saying “I’m a false teacher”. But that will never be the case, hence we as Christians have to do our own investigations, “test the spirits” (1 John 4: 1-6) especially into what they preach – does it line up with scripture.
Kenneth Copeland is a 33 degree Freemason and is right up there with some of the most heinous false teachers I know to date.
See article on the UNIVERSAL Menorah: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/08/21/why-would-a-christian-use-a-menorah/
And just in case you think Jonathan Cahn did that Shin (ש) sign which is a the mystic hand-sign for all Rabbis by accident, here we have it again…
Matt 23:1-8 (KJV)
1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. 8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
What is this “and enlarge the borders of their garments”?
G2899 κράσπεδον kraspedon (kra’-spe-d̮on) n.
1. a margin.
2. (specially) , a fringe or tassel.
Unfortunately, most of the scriptures you use are taken sorely out of context. Honestly, I don’t have an opinion about him because I’ve not heard him speak yet. But, the way you have misinterpreted scriptures makes me call into question your interpretation of what he has taught and whether or not you truly understand truth of what is and is not said. You even contradict yourself so much, I became frustrated halfway through the article. You could be right about this guy, but your argument against him is weak with poorly understood theology. Thus, I will be researching, reading and listening to him and making decisions for myself (as everyone should do in the first place anyway). Your article just caused me to realize that I need to study this for myself.
Note: To make yourself more believable…be sure of your facts BEFORE printing them in your articles. Make sure you are printing truth or you end up discrediting your entire article.
IE:
TBN stands for Trinity Broadcasting Network and is a Nondenominational Christian programming station around the clock and has no factual evidence linking it to the Vatican. I might have taken this statement for granted and believed you without checking facts if you had rather said EWTN and stands for Eternal World Television Network which is around the clock Catholic programming.
If you respond, be sure you use factual response to my comment and not just attacking my position of standing on facts and truth of rightly divided scriptures. I noticed in the comments I have read that you ring of pleasantries when someone agreed and hatred and general statement of displeasure when someone doesn’t agree. I look only for intelligent conversation (even if I disagree) and you should also, if you are in fact a true journalist. Don’t heave general insults…I’d rather you come back with specific facts backing your position than to just say that I’m drowning in lies basically. (Remember, I don’t have a position on this man for myself yet, and you may sway my decision with factual truth.) Make sure not to use the same argument against him as in this article as I have fact checked much of it and found most of it untrue. Make sure you rightly divide the Word of God and not use scriptures out of context, also. Thanks.
Tawnia
Would you mind giving us examples where the author took scripture sorely out of context?
TBN’s affection for the Vatican is nothing compared to their affinity for Islam.
https://www.thebereancall.org/content/tbn-islam
Is this the way you would want to evangelize the world?
https://www.thebereancall.org/content/evangelizing-world
Dear Tawnia
Oh my goodness, the horror!! Of being told one has taken scripture out of context and then not told what scripture it is that was taken out of context! Was there one to start off with? :nope: I don’t think so. Otherwise you ‘the good steward that you are‘ would have told us what it is Right? And given us the correct interpretation, Right?
You said “I have fact checked much of it and found most of it untrue”
TBN stands for Trinity Broadcasting Network and is a shadow organisation run by the Vatican.
Your fact checking leaves little to be desired.
Look at all this shocking proof that TBN is a Vatican organisation:
Paul Crouch can’t wait to shake the Pope’s hand.
Crowned MARY on 2nd floor of TBN Headquarters – Costa Mesa, California
TBN – Statue of Mary close up
TBN – Endorsement by Mother Theresa
See more here: http://spiritual-research-network.blogspot.com/2005/12/inside-trinity-brodcasting-network.html
Paul Crouch can’t wait to shake the Pope’s hand.
I am a born again believer contending for the faith once delivered to the saints.
Jude 1:3 “Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.”
You said “I have fact checked much of it and found most of it untrue. Make sure you rightly divide the Word of God and not use scriptures out of context, also.”
Oh so you agree with everything the article, inducing the following:
1) Do you agree with his use of the Zohar (the Kabbalah which is occult) to explain scripture – see video?
2) Do you agree with his doctrine on “State of Onement” – see video?
3) Do you agree with his doctrine of “The Alpha Light” – see video?
While we are at it, do you agree with the giant statue of Jesus (0.25 seconds) shown to Johnathan Cahn and he says “THANK YOU” on the Jim Bakker show? (See video below). Jim Bakker is a false teacher too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6uMr8ZZbwE
Just read all of my comment to Dawns which is above yours: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2015/07/15/why-jonathan-cahn-and-his-revelations-must-be-ignored/#comment-484732
And I would have to call you a liar, because you actually lied. You state that I “heave general insults” Really? Show me one, just one. And you accuse me of twisting scripture without any evidence, which I have not. I am not going to call evil good and good evil. I’ve noticed it’s the new tactic of the enemy to come lately in with ‘fly by night comments’ and accuse us without an ounce of proof, this so called “fact checking, fake news rubbish.”
You are what’s called a Troll;
And I would love you to give an answer to Tom’s question regarding TBN and Islam. https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2015/07/15/why-jonathan-cahn-and-his-revelations-must-be-ignored/#comment-484742
Deborah,
Responding to your: 9 September, 2018 at 1:12 am reply. Let me say, I did not ignore any part of what you so meticulously documented in your article. Because I did not touch upon or address what you feel was most important, or ask questions you wanted me to ask, does not mean I ignored anything. I feel you were presumptuous to say so. I come from an analyst background. Our #1 guideline is this– just because it is on the internet, does not make it true. As an analyst, we go straight to what could be deemed conjecture, opinion, or supposition, and we determine if there is any basis, or solid evidence. I did not necessarily discount or disagree with everything else you wrote, but as an analyst I did what I am trained to do. If there is even one claim or statement that is false, the rest of what is written becomes suspect. I am sure you understand. So, I cut right to it and honed in on those two things. Without me having to ask, you confirmed what I suspected when you said, “…I speak to you using the internet and get all my info from the internet…”
You may not care to post my reply but at least you will read this in private.
To answer your questions:
1) Do you agree with his use of the Zohar (the Kabbalah which is occult) to explain scripture – see video? Do not need to watch the video. Answer: NO
2) Do you agree with his doctrine on “State of Onement” – see video? Do not need to watch the video. Answer: NO, if it is not in the Bible, I do not agree. I do believe we are One with Him through His Son’s death and resurrection, and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
3) Do you agree with his doctrine of “The Alpha Light” – see video? Do not need to watch the video. Answer: NO, if it is not in the Bible, I do not agree.
I do not know Tawnia, and although I was not surprised by her scrutiny and criticisms, I was however surprised by your reaction. You called her a liar in a public forum. As a Christian, how does that set US apart from the rest of the world? How does that demonstrate WE are different from any of the unsaved people out there who hurl insults?
1 Peter 3:8-12
8 To sum up, all of you be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kindhearted, and humble in spirit; 9 not returning evil for evil or insult for insult, but giving a blessing instead…
Ephesians 4:29-32
29 Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. 32 Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.
Where is the love of Christ in calling someone a liar because they disagree with you– accuse you even? WE are supposed to be better than that. WE are supposed to set ourselves apart. WE must be an example for others to follow because WE are ambassadors for Christ 24x7x365. While I admire your monumental efforts to expose false teachers, and actually agree with much of what you wrote, I am discouraged… and disappointed. All these scriptures about love…
John 13:34-35
34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. 35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
1 Corinthians 13:2, 4-7
2 If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, 5 does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, 6 does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
I have a question for you. Is there genuine love in your heart when you reply– even to those who disagree with you?
YSIC
Dawn quoted:
1 Peter 3:8-12
8 To sum up, all of you be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kindhearted, and humble in spirit; 9 not returning evil for evil or insult for insult, but giving a blessing instead…
This is also in the Bible, Dawn.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (John 8:44)
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. (Matthew 16:23)
Guess who said this, Dawn.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. (Galatians 1:8-10).
Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. (Jude 1:11-13).
I have a question for you. Is there genuine love in your heart for Jesus, Paul and Jude who said these “harsh and unloving” words, Dawn?
The Kabbalah is Pharisee heresy, Dawn.
Dear Dawn
You said “So, I cut right to it and honed in on those two things. Without me having to ask, you confirmed what I suspected when you said, “…I speak to you using the internet and get all my info from the internet…”” [Emphasis added]
I just love how you ‘tried’ to go straight for the jugular vein, Dawn. But missed. You came here to fight didn’t you? Oh yes youuuuu did! You had it confirmed in your mind long before you even started to write your comment. You had it all planned out didn’t you. Sneaky Sneaky. You ignored my entire comment proving my point that you asked me to prove, and then you were thinking to yourself; ‘Ohhhhhh yippeee, I got her cornered now, everything she says is on the internet and she gets all her info from the internet, so I’ll say to her “just because it is on the internet, does not make it true”‘ and then you throw in another supposedly cunning sidestep by referring to Tawnia’s comment that has nothing to do with your comment.
If someone lies then they are a liar right?
I am going to take a wild guess and say that you have never called anyone a liar in your entire life, even as a Christian you have never called anyone a liar? Right? Please tell me I am wrong. Or wait, you do everything in secret…?
But just wait, I’m going to get real honest with you now, seeing that you lack a certainly quality when it comes to being a Christian and that is called HONESTY.
You said “Where is the love of Christ in calling someone a liar because they disagree with you– accuse you even?”
You said it, where is the love in being an ACCUSER Dawn? You came here, of your own free will, on a public forum with the full intent to accuse me of lying, but not actually calling me the word ‘liar’. How sweet of you. You drip honey.
1Pet 5:8 (KJV)
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
What is the difference between accusing someone of lying or telling someone they are lying vs calling them a liar?
Must I instead say to make you feel better about yourself, “You are not telling the truth”, or “Why are you not telling the truth?” or “Why are you accusing me of not telling the truth?” or “What are you accusing me of, lying?” or “Why are you lying”, or…
You said “just because it is on the internet, does not make it true.”
Well Dawn, if your No.1 Guideline to your school taught ‘analysis’ is true then your comment that you typed that is on the internet and everything you say everywhere, books included, notes on paper, even real life thoughts (because you typed your comment in real life using the internet and submitted your thoughts via bits and bytes onto black and white screens), could be one big lie. In fact I don’t believe a word of what you said.
Now, you have not proved me wrong on a single point in this article. In fact you possibly ‘don’t even exist’ according to your school taught No.1 Guideline.
I use what is called BIBLICAL DISCERNMENT that comes by the Holy Spirit.
Hebrews 5:14 “But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.”
Wisdom and discernment come from seeking the Lord and His will for our lives.
So Dawn this is what you do:
James 1:5 “If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him.”
Proverbs 3:13 “Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.”
You said “As a Christian, how does that set US apart from the rest of the world?”
Do you know what set us apart from the rest of the world Dawn? THE TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH (John 14:6).
If I told you that Johnathan Cahn was a man of God instead of the truth: that he is a Pharisee, or that TBN was a Christian TV instead of the truth: that it’s part of Vatican II Evangelization program to draw the world back to the Vatican. I would be leading you and everyone astray, your blood would be on my hands (Ezekiel 3:18-21) and I would be found by God to be a liar.
1 John 3:18 “My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.”
Lastly…to prove you are 100% suspect in your thoughts, words and the reasons why you came here to comment in the first place, based on your reasoning that “If there is even one claim or statement that is false, the rest of what is written becomes suspect.”
You said “Without me having to ask, you confirmed what I suspected…”
Actually I am sorry to say this Dawn, but you lied. Your statement is false. You did ask me!
you said; “Where did you get your information? I like to know these things before I consider sharing posts/articles/blogs etc. with others.” [Emphasis added]
PS; You say ‘YSIC’ at the end of your comments. I would be careful who I go around calling ‘Your Sister in Christ’ on the internet, because based on your No.1 Guideline “just because it is on the internet, does not make it true.”