Why Jonathan Cahn and His Revelations Must be Ignored
Why Jonathan Cahn, His Mysteries, Keys and Revelations Must be Ignored
Rabbi Jonathan Cahn has been bothering me with his “The Harbinger” and now “The Mystery of the Shemitah” ‘revelations‘. Who is he exactly? Is he a born again Christian or is far worse than just your plain run of the mill false teacher?
He calls himself a Rabbi yet the bible says:
Matthew 23:8 “8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.”
He has been labelled a modern day prophet as he brings a prophetic message with The Harbinger where he blatantly implies that America is treading the same path for judgment as ancient Israel and connects Isaiah 9:10 to America. The Harbinger was published by FrontLine, an imprint of Charisma House which used to be known as Strang Communications run by Steve Strang who is part of the New Apostolic Reformation.
Israel and a New World…
The main problem with The Harbinger is that Jonathan Cahn equates America to be a replacement of Israel, a New Israel. He says in his book:
The Prophet: “But there was one other-a civilization also conceived and dedicated to the will of God from its conception . . . America. In fact, those who laid its foundations . . .”
Noriel Kaplan: “The Founding Fathers.”
The Prophet: “No, long before the Founding Fathers. Those who laid America’s foundations saw it as the new Israel, an Israel of the New World. And as it was with ancient Israel, they saw it as in covenant with God.“
This is unbiblical. Jonathan Cahn is claiming that the Pilgrims (America’s founders who were Puritans – Calvinists) constituted America to be in a covenant relationship with God like Israel is in a covenant with God. This is of course a lie, but they believed it never the less. He claims that America replaces Israel as the new Israel for a New World…Order. Israel is the only nation in a covenant relationship with God that was established through Abraham.
Here he says it again on Glen Becks show. Glen Beck is a Mormon. Why would a christian like Jonathan Cahn appear on a Mormon’s show?
2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Jonathan Cahn On Glenn Beck’s TV show (A Mormon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQnF9WGNW-U
Another country who also believes they are the New Israel is Britain, with the British Royal Family believing that they are descendants of King David. This is of course a lie. But they believe it never the less. This is called British Israelism (also called Anglo-Israelism).
Freemasons, other occultists and unbelievers can’t stand the fact that Israel is God’s chosen nation and will do anything to replace Israel, literally and spiritually.
The King Solomon connection
Jonathan Cahn says in The Harbinger:
Kaplan: “Some link between this city and the ancient vow,” I said. “Somehow Isaiah 9:10 has to be connected to Washington DC.” (p.61)
George Washington – Freemason
The Prophet: “Solomon was the king of Israel. Washington was the first president of the United States. There was something in the linking of ancient Israel and America, as with all the other mysteries.”(p.109)
King Solomon was appointed by God Himself to be king. George Washington was elected via vote to be President. There is a big difference between the two. George Washington was also a Freemason. When George Washington spoke of God, he was referring to Lucifer, not the God of the bible. Freemasons are besotted with claiming Israel for themselves. The Pilgrims who proclaimed a false covenant with God were most likely Freemasons as well hence they could come up with such nonsense as to claim America to be the New Israel.
Freemasons also worship King Solomon who they believed to be the greatest magus (sorcerer) of all time. Is that why Jonathan Cahn connects King Solomon to George Washington because it’s a satanic connection?
“The purpose of Masonry’s veneration of Solomon is not to advance an alternate view of history, but to present, however subtly, the archetype of the future human being — men and women who truly possess Solomon’s Key — the power to master our own demons and redirect their destructive energy to build the Temple of our own evolving soul.” —Lon Milo DuQuette, The Key to King Solomons Keys – Is this the lost symbol of Masonry, Second Edition
So who is Jonathan Cahn then and what does he believe?
Well if you go to his website it says:
“Jonathan Cahn is President of Hope of the World ministries, Senior Pastor and Messianic Rabbi of the the Jerusalem Center/ Beth Israel in Wayne, New Jersey. He is also the author of the best selling book ‘The Harbinger‘. His teachings are broadcast daily over hundreds of radio stations throughout the United States and the world and on television. He ministers, as did the first Jewish messengers of the Gospel, sharing the message of Messiah to Jew and Gentile, Israel, and the nations. He has ministered before mass gatherings in India, Nigeria, Cuba, Mizoram, Honduras, Haiti, & throughout the world. His teachings are widely known for revealing the deep mysteries of God’s word and for the restoring of the new covenant message to its original biblically Jewish richness and power.” [Emphasis added] —http://www.bethisraelworshipcenter.org/aboutjonathan.htm
That is very interesting. So Jonathan Cahn knows the deep mysteries of God’s Word that Christians don’t know? And only Jonathan Cahn can reveal these mysteries to us? Jonathan Cahn’s plan is also to restore the message that Jesus Christ preaches to it’s original Jewish richness and power. So until Jonathan Cahn came along all born again believers for the last 2000+ years that have been reading the Scriptures were reading a bible that had no value and no authority what-so-ever. Isn’t that nice, that Jonathan Cahn came to save the day.
What does he mean by all ‘richness and power’? Does he mean that we need to infuse the Bible with Kaballah mysticism in order to understand it properly?
Here is another version of his biography that was on his website but the link has now been removed:
“Jonathan Cahn is President of Hope of the World ministries….Descended of the line of Aaron, he has been asked to sound the Jubilee trumpet and minister among the nations, a prophetic ministry of and to the Jew and the Gentile in the last days. His teachings include the revealing of ancient mysteries, the depth and wonders of God’s Word, and the restoration of the Gospel message in its original Biblically Jewish context, richness, and power.”
Who asked him to sound the Jubilee trumpet? And what does that mean exactly? Here he states that his ministry is a prophetic ministry. As Christians we know that there is no such thing as a prophetic ministry. People will only begin to prophesy again in the last days (during the Tribulation):
Acts 2:17-18 “And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:” 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:” (Joel 2:28)
There is a movement called the ‘Hebrew Roots Movement’ where they believe that you cannot understand the bible unless you go back to your Hebrew ways (become like the Jews) and read extra biblical sources such as the Midrash, Zohar and the Talmud etc., to gain a higher enlightenment of the Scriptures.
The Berean Call says:
“The late Jewish scholar and researcher of first century life in Israel, David Flusser, said rightly; “Jesus was a Jew in every way” ( Jewish Sources in Early Christianity , Adama Books, New York, 1987, p.7). There is absolutely no denying that Jesus was born a Jew and lived an observant Jewish life. He did this to fulfill completely every demand of the law, He did it for us (Romans:8:1-4), and He continues to do it in us if we are true believers.
So if we want to be like Jesus, does that mean that we must become observant Jews, as some allege? Is that what being like Jesus really means? Should Gentile believers try to be Messianic Jews? Can they? Should Gentiles don a yarmulke, worship in a synagogue, blow a shofar, wear a prayer shawl, call Jesus Yeshua or Yeshu, keep the Old Testament feasts and dietary laws, and give their pastors the title of Rabbi, even though Matthew:23:8 says otherwise? Are Jewish ceremonies and practices efficacious?
Do we need to restore first century or later Jewish practices to really be good Christians? The Pharisees practiced all the ceremonies, but theirs is a cautionary tale since Jesus told them that they did these things in vain (Matthew:15:7-9, See also Matthew 23).
So, is Jewishness next to godliness? One very modern movement would answer the question with a loud-“yes, more or less!” This growing movement is called the Hebrew Roots Movement (HRM). Unfortunately, it lacks a shared, coherent, consistent theology, an internal mechanism of doctrinal control, and it is filled with mavericks who seem to be making it up as they go along in terms of attachment to Jewish accoutrements.” Continue to read this article: Bewitching Believers Through the Hebrew Roots Movement
Did the Zohar greatly shaped Jonathan Cahn’s writings?
10 Sephirot – Zohar – Kaballah
I had no idea we needed to be taught NEW revelations from Gnostics books such as the Zohar (part of the Kabbalah). In this video below we see Jonathan Cahn preaching new revelations about the Bible from an extra-biblical source the Zohar.
The Zohar (Hebrew: זֹהַר, lit. “Splendor” or “Radiance”) is the foundational work in the literature of Jewish mystical thought known as Kabbalah.[1] It is a group of books including commentary on the mystical aspects of the Torah (the five books of Moses) and scriptural interpretations as well as material on mysticism, mythical cosmogony, and mystical psychology. The Zohar contains discussions of the nature of God, the origin and structure of the universe, the nature of souls, redemption, the relationship of Ego to Darkness and “true self” to “The Light of God”. Its scriptural exegesis can be considered an esoteric form of the Rabbinic literature known as Midrash, which elaborates on the Torah. — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zohar
Watch Jonathan Cahn: Zohar – Golgotha (1)
Jonathan Cahn’s response regarding his quoting the Zohar (Q&A from here):
Question: It is stated that Jonathan Cahn “says that Zohar, an extra biblical, mystical source from which the occult and mystical Kabbalah is derived, greatly influenced his writing.”
Answer: “Unfortunately this kind of statements represents some of the extreme and bizarre opposition to The Harbinger – It is an extreme false accusation. No. I have never in my life said that the Zohar has greatly influenced my writing – nor has it ever. What this accusation is taken from and twisted out of recognition from – Is that I have in some special teachings shared quotes found in the rabbinic writings which unwittingly bear witness of the truth of the Gospel – things that most Jewish people have no idea of – such as Isaiah 53 being about the Messiah, or God being Three in One, Messiah dying for our sins [DTW Note: Isaiah 53 in our Bible clearly describes the suffering of Jesus Christ. Why does Cahn need to appeal to occult, mystic Jewish documents like the Zohar/Kabbalah to get Jewish people to listen? Isn’t reading the Bible itself sufficient for Cahn?], or a connection made between the mercy of God and the word “Golgotha.” These things can be used to share the Gospel. This has been a standard method of apologetics and evangelism for ages. Rabbinical writings, mystical or otherwise, have been quoted for ages, in Bible commentaries, apologetics, works such as The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah, etc. To take this and then present it as if I or any Christian pastor or scholar is a secret follower of such things because they used a quote to bear witness of the Gospel is, as, one minister friend of mine would say – shameful at best. It should not have even appeared in print.
The apostle Paul actually quoted from a pagan hymn to Zeus in order to share the truth of the Gospel at Mars Hill. [DTW Note: This argument has used by many heretics to justify their quoting Catholics, Buddhists, etc.] If we were to then to accuse him of being into Zeus worship, or that pagan writings were behind the epistles, or accuse of him of being secretly pagan – I would think we would need to repent. It’s called bearing false witness.”
Sorry, for me the logic does not follow. If Cahn is the born again Christian that he claims, he should condemn the ungodly, occult Zohar/Kaballah. He should not quote it, except in condemnation of its passages.
Let’s look at it another way – would a born again, biblically sound Christian:
… quote from a Catholic document to evangelize Catholics because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
… quote from a Mormon document to evangelize Mormons because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
… quote from a Jehovah’s Witnesses document to evangelize Jehovah’s Witnesses because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
… quote from a New Age document to evangelize New Agers because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
… quote from a Wiccan document to evangelize Wiccans because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
… quote from a Satanic document to evangelize Satanists because it seemed to contain some Christian thoughts?
The answer is an emphatic NO, a born again Christians does not use and does not need extra biblical sources to preach the gospel.
Is Jonathan Cahn possibly a Freemason?
Who do we as Christian know that delve into Gnostic teachings such as the Kabbalah etc? Freemasons of course. Is Jonathan Cahn a Freemason? A picture is worth a thousand words:
Do you need some more proof? The picture below shows Jonathan Cahn showing the Hebrew letter for Shin ( ש) hand sign in Kabbalah, made popular by Dr Spok in Star Trek also known as the Vulcan salute. See here as Nelson Mandela does the same Freemason hand sign.
The Hebrew letter ש Shin is the twenty-first letter of the Kabbalistic alphabet
The Shemitah 2015
The Berean Call says:
This imposed Shemitah judgment was very specific and involved only the nation of Israel . Since no Gentile nations were ever obligated to keep the Shemitah, there is no scriptural basis for suggesting that any other nation would ever experience an imposed Shemitah judgment. Yet, this is precisely what Jonathan Cahn suggests that America has experienced.
Cahn also wrongly implies that the Shemitah is essentially a universal principle that is somehow integrated into the order of the universe. Cahn makes the following assertion in his book:
[KAPLAN] “Seven years-the biblical period of time that concerns a nation’s financial and economic realms.” [This and all quotes are taken from: Jonathan Cahn, The Harbinger (Lake Mary, FL: Frontline, Charisma Media/Charisma House Book Group, 2011)]
Although Israel was on a seven-year economic cycle, no biblical passages support Cahn’s idea that natural economic cycles of seven years exist for nations in general. Furthermore, financial experts have not identified any seven-year economic cycle. —http://www.thebereancall.org/content/october-2014-extra-shemitah
If anything happens during The Shemitah (September 2015), it’s not because of God and a connection to Isaiah 9:10, it’s because the Freemasons who control this world are pushing the buttons and they are making things happen (in cycles of 7 as it’s a ‘magic’ number) for their own purposes to further the progress of a New World Order.
Here is Christine Lagarde from the IMF who tells us that the Illuminati are also very interested in the number 7 and cycles of 7.
Jonathan Cahn is using these Harbinger and Shemitah fables to catch millions of unsuspecting Christians into thinking that it’s God’s timing and God’s hand at work, when in fact it’s Satan’s timing, and Satan’s hand at work.
Occult Teachings:
Title: Jonathan Cahn on TBN: God of all Nations
Why would a Christian like Jonathan Cahn appear on the Vatican’s television channel called TBN?
God is not God of all nations, he is not God of this world. Satan is god of this world.
2 Corinthians 4:4 “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
Satan is the prince of this world:
John 12:31 “Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.”
We read that Satan influences the unsaved people of this world, he influences unbeliever’s hopes, dreams, ideals and opinions etc.
Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
So then who is the God of all nations? None other than Satan of course.
2 Kings 17:29 “Howbeit every nation made gods of their own, and put them in the houses of the high places which the Samaritans had made, every nation in their cities wherein they dwelt.”
For Jonathan Cahn who claims to be a Christian to not know who the god of this world is, is shocking to say the least. His god is Satan, and his god is ruling this world.
FALSE TEACHING FROM JONATHAN CAHN
I have chosen below a couple of videos from this list on Cahn’s website and found the corresponding video on Youtube where Jonathan teaches occult teachings:
Title: The Alpha Light
So who is this Alpha light Jonathan Cahn is speaking about? The Bible says about God, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.” (Revelation 22:13) It does not say I am the Alpha light. Cahn also says “From the beginning of creation to the incarnation and the resurrection, it all begins with light” This is a lie, it all began with the Word. The bible says,
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” (John 1:1)
Alpha is the first letter of the Greek alphabet. Omega is the last letter of the Greek alphabet. In modern usage it would mean “from A to Z”. By combining the two, Alpha and Omega it signifies completeness. In reference to Jesus Christ it signifies His completeness and demonstrates Him to be the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Jesus is complete. He was with God in the beginning and He will be with God in the end. Jesus is the beginning and the ending.
Who then is this Alpha light who was at the beginning according to Jonathan Cahn. The bible refers to Satan as being an “angel of light” in 2 Corinthians 11:14-15. Lucifer is a Latin word that means “light bearer”. It comes from the translation of Isaiah 14:12 where Satan is called (hay-lale’) in hebrew meaning “the morning-star” (in the sense of brightness) and it’s root word means “to shine”. So as we can see Satan is seen as someone who gives light. Satan tried to usurp God’s throne, the bible says:
Isaiah 14:13-14 “13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.”
Now we can see why Satan in Luciferianism refers to himself as the Alpha light because he is still trying to be higher than God. Jonathan Cahn says, “Learn the secret of using the Alpha Light in every circumstance to change everything”. What he is saying is this, learn to use Satan the Alpha light, instead of Jesus Christ – the way, the truth and the life.
Let’s hear what Freemasons have to say:
LUCIFER PRAISED AS THE LIGHT-BEARER OF FREEMASONRY
“Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!” [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p. 321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff; Red Emphasis added]
What a revelation! From the first degree, the first Initiation, the Mason is urged mightily to “seek the Light“! The average Mason is continually saying that he is “seeking the Light”, and will spend his entire life “moving toward the Light”. Almost every person in Western Civilization will assume that this “Light” is the revelation of the God of the Bible; indeed, this statement is held up continuously to try to convince us that Masonry is Christian. Yet, here, Albert Pike is saying that Lucifer is the One who bears the Light of Freemasonry! Lucifer is the Light-bearer of Freemasonry —http://www.cuttingedge.org/free11.html
Title: The State of Onement
A state on onement? Jonathan Cahn says: “…the bible itself is about becoming one with God. Most believers never enter it, but you can” This is clearly a higher level of spirituality of some kind, because until now only some Christians have attained it. Jonathan Cahn will give you the secret on how you can enter into a state of becoming one with God. Occultists like to take the word “atonement” and break it down to another word “at-one-ment”.A truly born again child of God does not need to become “at-one-ment” or figure out how to find the “state of onement” with God because Jesus said,
John 14:20 “In that day [His resurrection] you will know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.”
When you come born again, He made us one with Himself, His (our) Father and the Holy Spirit. You don’t have to figure out how to become at-one with God and neither do you become a god because of this.
New Agers believe that “you are not separate from God; every person is born a piece of God.” In order to be “at-one-ment” with God you need to meditate and believe that God is in everyone and everything including yourself. A “state of oneness” means that you need to find the Christ within, and become a God.
Jonathan Cahn teaches that he will give you the keys on how to enter in becoming one with God after you are saved – those who teach that people need to become one with God are proclaiming another Gospel, another Jesus and another spirit.
Please read this article that explains more about At-one-ment or Oneness theory: Guilt by Association
Conclusion
Jonathan Cahn is a Freemason leading million of Christians astray with his new revelations, keys and mysteries. He appears on every false teachers TV show and tickles peoples ears with this false teachings. People need to ignore this man and his teachings. We are living in the last of the last days and I believe there are going to be more men like Jonathan Cahn (possibly from a messianic stand point) coming to the forefront however they will be even more charismatic and even more deceiving, so much so that if it were possible even the Elect would be deceived. Please note, he does not believe in the Rapture and believes Christians are going to go through the Tribulation.
Matthew 24:24 “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
Please read all comments below (I know there are a lot) as Jonathan Cahn is exposed even more.
MisDebra,
John knew his calling. In fact, his parents must have told him that he was empowered by the Holy Ghost even from his mother’s womb (Luke 1:15). I can’t see why lying is such a strong term. Are you trying to be politically correct by not answering the question? Both Jesus and John the Baptist were correct. Jesus never meant that John was Elijah returned or resurrected from the dead with a new name called John the Baptist. What Jesus meant was that John came in the spirit and power of Elijah to return the hearts of the fathers to the sons and vice versa. And neither will Elijah or Moses or Enoch return in person during the tribulation. It simply means that another person, like John the Baptist, is going to return in the spirit and power of the prophet Elijah (Elias).
MissDebra
You said: John probably was not told “Thou art Elijah returned,”
John the Baptist knew he was Elijah returned “in spirit and in power” not in person, see Luke 1:17 🙂
And Jesus knew he was Elijah in spirit and power, not in person 🙂
Thanks Tom for that excellent comment.
MissDebra
A quick question, seeing as though you were speaking about Enoch, what is your belief about the Nephilim?
MissDebra
You said: “Another reason I think Enoch will be the other witness is that it is generally believed that Enoch was black. The two most persecuted peoples in the world have been the blacks and the Jews. I believe the blacks represent the righteous during the time of the tower of Bable, and they were not changed into other nationalities. However, not long after, they too fell into disobedience to God, and became hypocritical, just like the Jews have done, and have reaped much persecution as a people because of this. So Enoch represents the original people God created and of course Elijah represents the Jews. Enoch and Elijah are the best candidates to rain judgement down on the evil that has persecuted mankind. This is what I think.”
Three questions:
1 Mind telling us from biblical scripture where you got this idea from?
2 Or did you get this info from the Book of Enoch?
3 Do you believe that black people are God’s chosen people as well along with the Jews?
Just wondering, do you Tom or you Deborah believe that you can learn from anyone else in the body of Christ, or do you think you have all the answers? I find your responses to be somewhat confrontational and argumentative. Actually, I am not disagreeing on some of what you say, but we should all be open to other’s opinions as to who the two witnesses will be. Walking in love and not strife should be our goal, not trying to be right, especially on issues that are left up to our imaginations, such as who are the two prophets.
Also, I have never been known to try to be politically correct. Not sure what that means anyway, because the politics keep changing. I try to go by the Bible, but everything is not spelled out there, so I do the best I can to hear from the Holy Ghost and obey Him. That should be our goal, correct? That’s my form of correctness, listening to the Holy Ghost and doing my best to obey Him.
Love is gentle. When we help educate someone else, or share our views with a fellow Christian, a mark of maturity is the ability to be gentle and kind in our delivery, not caustic and debating.
Oh dear. Miss Debra I didn’t realise asking you questions was such a terrible thing. No where have we been nasty to you or been hateful or insulted you. But you insult us. That’s nice. Don’t worry we forgive you 🙂
Please by all means leave this website before you have to think any further than your nose. And you know what, don’t answer those questions, I already know your answer that is why I asked them.
But before you go, please read this:
You think the book of Enoch is biblical yet it goes against every grain that the bible stands for. Read this comment where it says in the book of Enoch that an angel called Phanuel is your mediator between man and God. Is this biblical? Answer this question and give your answer to Jesus Christ the Son of God, now us. ok?
Am I being nasty by asking this question? No, far from it. Telling someone the truth is Love, if I left you alone, that would be hateful.
In chapter 40 and verses 9 we read of the Book of Enoch…
The book of Enoch was not included in the bible for a reason MissDebra, because it’s not written by Enoch, it’s satanic.
HI MisDebra,
There are only two options to take when dealing with spiritual matters – the one is truth and the other lies. And as you know, Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44). So why do I need to take your or anyone else’s opinions as Gospel truth when it is not? Have you never read this before?
So stop feeling sorry for yourself and receive rebuke with open arms when it is said in the spirit of Proverbs 27:6.
MissDebra wrote:
No, my dear, this is the mark of maturity.
Would you say Paul’s indictment is full of love, gentle and kind?
Who will be the two witnesses during the tribulation is not doctrine. It is conjecture. Let’s not confuse answering heresy with mere conjecture. No matter how you approach it, we are to speak to the brethren, and I am not talking about heretics, with love. Even heretics should be approached with love and if they don’t change after being corrected, then stronger methods must be employed. However, we should not start out hitting our brethren over the head with overly strong delivery. That is what I am saying. Yes, Jesus called the hypocrites White Washed Tombs, but they were hypocrites. He did not treat everyone this way. Tom you and Deborah do not know everything, so a spirit of humility while you “minister” and not “brow beat” the body of Christ would be wise. When it is all said and done, you will have to answer to God in the end for your attitudes, not just your correct or incorrect words. We know how Jesus deals with those who beat the brethren, so fear of the Lord and gentleness in your communications is to your best advantage.
MissDebra wrote:
Well, Jesus said to one of his closest disciples “Get thee behind me Satan.” What does that tell you? It shows that whenever those whom He did not always treat as hypocrites were also prone to be called hypocrites and devils whenever they did not walk according to the Gospel.
You wrote:
You are doing precisely what you are accusing Deborah and myself of – beating us instead of correcting us. Correcting means to show us from Scripture – like Jesus did with his disciple Peter – that we are on the wrong track and need to be corrected in love. What do you do? Instead of correcting us, you judge us by saying “Jesus is going to deal harshly with you. He is going to send you to hell.” Why do I say this? Let ‘s look at that passage which you used to tell us that we are beating the brethren over the head.
You are accusing us of:
1) unbelief in the return of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2) Drunkenness
and saying that Jesus is going to:
1) cut us asunder.
2) appoint us with the hypocrites and worst of all,
3) send us to hell.
Now, my dear, if that is not judging us and sending us to hell, I don’t know what is. You need to repent, Debra, before it’s too late for you.
Believe me. Contending for the faith is not equal to beating the brethren over the head. It is to bring them to their senses so that they may be saved from error.
Today is July 31,2016 and I have just found this site. I can’t emphasize my deep gratitude enough for moderators who seem to breathe Acts 17:11, and the expositions that have removed my loyalty to more than one teacher.
Please stop coming against God’s chosen people. Johnathan Cahn share’s the Word of God in his messages, and your reading way too much into what he says. He is a good man out there preaching, teaching and educating people on Jewish tradition, and how events unfold by the Jewish calendar and not the Gentile calendar. He is highly respected and inspirational to many people, myself included. God is using Johnathan in a mighty way, to His glory. And personally speaking, maybe you need to focus on sharing Christ with others and the messages He gives you, and quit tearing down a brother in Christ.
Jodi
How sure are you that Jonathan Cahn is preaching to you the Jesus of the Bible and not another Jesus?
Read here.
Basically, all of his arguments will lead in one direction – toward support of the Jews. We should leave Jews alone, whatever they do in society, and support Israel as “the apple of God’s eye”. This is baloney. Judaism has been dead for almost 2,000 years. Without a temple, without a priesthood, there are no sacrifices, and thus no covenant. What is today called Judaism (basically Rabbis arguing with Rabbis) is younger than Christianity. Israel is the Church, and there are found the children of Moses. There’s only one question: Is he a huckster, or does he actually believe the bull he’s chucking?
Hugh Beaumont
Anti-semites cannot claim to believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob because they are anti the Jewish God. Jesus himself was a Jew.
http://www.thebereancall.org/content/november-2013-classic-2
People get very worked up over this topic. This guy should be taken with a grain of salt. If his teaching strengthens your faith in Jesus, great. Don’t take his prophecies or future suggestions as doctrine or truth. Ponder them and move on with Jesus. Don’t let mysteries become an idol in your heart or mind. The greatest prophecy, the deepest mystery is , “Follow Me! [and My teachings]” You can do that every day without squabbling over this stuff. None of it can bring you closer to Jesus as reading your Bible, praying, worshiping and fasting.
But this guy does have some red flags…He often talks about interactions with spirits, “teachers”, visions and that I know of he has never asked them to “confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh”. I don’t know who these entities are that he gets his info from…
Suggestion….if you want to find out the mysteries of God and seek harbingers because it is intriguing to you….go to Jesus and ask Him…He is faithful to give what you seek if you seek and believe. And that you can count on with your soul…Cahn? He is just a man.
Ceil wrote:
Muslims think they are turning to God? If you turn toward the wrong God with info that God did not give to Cahn, then God is not the one you are turning to when Cahn asks you to turn to god because God did not send Cahn. Just a thought. I’m not deciding either way, just giving a plausible answer to your quandary. 🙂
Fantastic to finally locate people who have been aware of Jonathan Con…the false profit. God bless you all for having the Spiritual ability to discern…..such a joy. Praise the Lord.
I too think Jonathan Cahn should be disregarded. This is my reason: I once heard that he took the subway in NYC. After that he just happened to eat lunch at, guess where?? SUBWAY SANDIWICH SHOP. Is this a coincidence?? I dont think so. The mystery gets deeper. He ordered his sandwich on multi-grain wheat bread. The Bible says not to eat leavened break because leaven is like the teaching of the Pharisees, false teachers. Thus he consumes false teaching! But it gets worse. Subway’s longtime spokesman was Jared Fogle, sounds like a Jew. Little did we know that all the while he was selling Subway sandwiches, he was doing inappropriate things with underage girls. A child molester and a sex offender. Thus Jonathan Cahn by eating at Subway is perpetuating sex offenses against minors!!!
OK I am frightened to think that many reading this BS actually believes it and agrees with me. I say all this to make a point, which is that the Pharisee who runs this site and in the first few lines of this page states that “no one should be called rabbi but Jesus” and condemns Cahn because one of the guys at the publishing house that published his book attends a particular denomination therefore everything Cahn teaches should be discounted as false teaching. How ridiculous. Do you actually mean that no rabbi in the world should be called a rabbi? Get rid of that religious spirit and start seeing clearly friend. It’s your kind that rejected and killed the Messiah while people without religious training recognized Him clearly.
This site is called “discerningtheworld????” LOL! Get a clue man.
Mike Glass,
Should I be surprised that you love to follow a Kabbalah mystic?
HH Your statement “People get very worked up over this topic. This guy should be taken with a grain of salt. If his teaching strengthens your faith in Jesus, great. Don’t take his prophecies or future suggestions as doctrine or truth. Ponder them and move on with Jesus,” sounds a lot like Jesus’s warning in Matthew 24:4, “Take heed that no man deceive you.” Just kidding. Jesus was dead serious when He said this. Deception was not just a little grain of salt to Him, as you said. Deception is demonic and its aim is to lead you away from Jesus and not toward Him as you suggested.
Nothing worse than Christian bigotry. The first sign of NOT being a Christian is to set yourself up with the authority to decide who is, or isn’t, a Christian. Why not let each individual decide this about themselves, even the Mormons, Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists, or Jehovah Witnesses? Why would anyone need to disrespect any of these people’s witness regarding their own personal beliefs? This is the height of hypocrisy while respect is Christ-like.
A Jew who has accepted Jesus Christ as his Savior is a reason to celebrate. Let him bring his wisdom along with him and let us each individually discern through the gift of the Holy Ghost what he or she believes. I believe James when he says that God will give answers liberally to any who ask and that He doesn’t discriminate between us.
I’m sorry that so many need a third party to confirm or refute another man’s testimony. Listen. Hear. Pray. Ask. I know personally that He answers sincere prayers. There is joy in knowing how to find the answers. There is peace in knowing that He will not allow us to be lead astray if we ask for personal guidance.
Donna, Your statement “There is peace in knowing that He will not allow us to be lead astray if we ask for personal guidance” is not biblical. Jesus never said, “Ask for guidance so that you may not be led astray.” He said “Take heed that no man deceive you” (Matthew 24:4). That sounds a lot like the onus is on you to make sure you are not deceived. He is not going to do it for you, is He? He want you to be an adult spiritual person who discerns all things correctly. That’s why He said:
He doesn’t want you to be an infantile Christian who cannot discern whether someone is a Christian or not.
I you cannot discern whether someone is a true Christian or not, you are in for a lot of problems. Why?
You wrote “Nothing worse than Christian bigotry. The first sign of NOT being a Christian is to set yourself up with the authority to decide who is, or isn’t, a Christian. Why not let each individual decide this about themselves, even the Mormons, Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists, or Jehovah Witnesses?”
OK, please tell us:
1) Are Buddhists Christians?
2) Is Islam Christian?
3) Is Satanism Christian?
If your answer is “NO” in each instance, you have just proved that you are a bigot and not a Christian.
If, as you say, everyone should decide for himself whether he or she is Christian or not flies in the face of Jesus and his brother, Jude’s admonishment in the book of Jude.
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The photos on this site speak volumes, unless you are as blind as a bat.
Thanks for your comment HH 🙂
@ Deborah. You seem like a nasty piece of work to me. So rude and scathing. I wouldn’t listen to anything you have to say, because you haven’t said one thing in love.
Mind you own,
I must say your scathing nasty piece of work to rebuke Deborah in this way is a superb example of how to say things ablaze with love. Please remove the huge beam out of your own eye first and then come back to make some real mature comments.
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