IMMORTALITY
Immortal Life … Can it be?
Somewhere between the mainstream church and people out there looking for a God who really exist , the truth is hanging in the air. Day after day people struggle for life. Yes, not only to make a living. What is the use of making a living when we live such short life that is going to end anyway soon. What is the reason for living if we have to die and go to heaven some day. Why don’t we just die and go to heaven?
The answer to that is in the truth. The truth that is written in the Bible that had been overlooked, misquoted and miss interpreted for many years.
People calling themselves “Christians” sometimes do not even know what the word “Christ” means. It means the anointing and the Spirit of God which come unto Jesus when He was baptized in the Jordan. That same Spirit that was given back to the Father, was poured out on earth on the day of Pentecost.
God’s intention was never for Adam to die. His intention was never for us to die! The whole story in the Bible is about LIFE! Not about dying to go to heaven.
Immortality according to the Bible and according to most dictionaries means to live without dying.
I have realized with a shock that children commit suicide because of the teachings and preaching of most preachers in the main stream church. Most preachers preach that it is bad to live on earth and that it will be much better in heaven “ONE DAY”. What nonsense! You are killing our children, lying to them. The Bible does not say that! I challenge any preacher to show me the scripture saying that the only way to go to heaven is to die!
The whole Word of God is about Life! Right from the beginning and basically in every book of the Bible we can see the truth.
Most people will ask , but why are people still dying? Born again Christians who are supposed to have the Spirit of Christ in them. The Spirit that raised Christ from the dead that is supposed to quicken our mortal bodies.
You can only ask that question if the truth has never been preached to you. Surely you can also ask that question if you are not born again. The Bible says that you cannot hear the revelation if someone is not preaching it.
For many years the only “truth” for people was the catholic religion. Luther had to stand up and preach the revelation that you don’t have to pay for your sins. It was in the Bible all the time. But still, someone had to preach the truth. The same happens with new revelation. For many years no one spoke in tongues. It was in the Bible all the time, but someone had to stand up and preach it.
No difference with the word of immortality which is probably the greatest revelation you will ever hear.
The Bible can very easily be misinterpreted because of incorrect translations or translators, trying to push their own doctrines. A very good tip for Bible scholars will be to ensure that the scripture they read is declared by scripture and not something happening in the world or some preacher’s own interpretation. Always test the scriptures by reading the context of the whole chapter. Sometimes it will help to read different translations.
1Co 2:9 (KJV) But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 1Co 2:10 (KJV) But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
Welcome to this awesome Word of God. Today you have come here, to see one of the greatest revealed mysteries and secrets of God.
The Bible says in Deut 29:29 that “the secret things belong unto the Lord our God, but the things which are revealed belong to us and to our children for ever………..”
The Bible is very clear! You are supposed to be immortal. It says, that it is for those who believe and for those who seek it! Stick with me through this amazing teaching and you will be filled with joy and peace forever.
What is the meaning of the word Immortality?
Is God’s plan for us to die and then go to heaven?
If so, why don’t we just die and go?
What does the Bible say about it?
The word “Immortality” in the Websters’s Dictionary is described as ” EXEMPTION FROM DEATH” or ” UNENDING EXISTENCE” It does not say die and then live or life after death.
Christians will very easily and often quote John 10:10
Joh 10:10 The thief does not come except to steal and to kill and to destroy. I have come so that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
I don’t think they realize what they are quoting
See the following scriptures:
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
2Co 4:11 For we which live are always delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.
It does not say that it will be made manifest AFTER we have died ! It says in the mortal flesh. In other words the flesh which is liable to death. Not the flesh that is dead already.
Carefully look at the following scriptures. Note that Paul is talking about 2 groups of people. He says “death works in us, but life in you” two groups.
2Co 4:10 to 14: always bearing about the dying of the Lord Jesus in the body, so that the life of Jesus also might be revealed in our body. For we who live are always being delivered to death for Jesus’ sake, so that the life of Jesus might also be revealed in our body.So then death works in us, but life in you. For we, having the same spirit of faith (according as it is written, “I believed, and therefore I have spoken”); we also believed and therefore speak, knowing that He who raised up the Lord Jesus shall also raise us up by Jesus, and shall present us with you.
We know that people are dying and therefore most people who don’t get this revelation will say ” but why are people still dying today?”
Joh 6:47 Truly, truly, I say to you, He who believes on Me has everlasting life.
He did not say , he who believes in ME will die and go to heaven.
Read the whole of John 6 and see how many times HE says: If you eat of My flesh and drink of My blood , you will NEVER DIE!
Jesus says “I am the Bread of life.” & Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and died. This is the Bread which comes down from Heaven, so that a man may eat of it and not die.
Doesnt the Bible say that the last enemy to be subdued and abolished is death?
Can I say this: When you die, you have been conquered by death! You have not subdued death or conquered death. Death is only conquered when you live and don’t die.
Right from the beginning, in Genesis, God’s plan for us was to live and not die. The question in the garden was not sin. It was all about LIFE and DEATH.
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.
Gen 3:22 And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man has become as one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever,
Gen 3:23 therefore Jehovah God sent him out from the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he had been taken.
Gen 3:24 And He drove out the man. And He placed cherubs at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.
Psa 118:17 I shall not die but live, and shall declare the works and recount the illustrious acts of the Lord.
Psa 118:24 This is the day which the Lord has brought about; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
Read the whole of Ps 118 and try to see the prophetic Word that the Psalmist is bringing.
Act 13:35 For this reason He says also in another psalm, You will not allow Your Holy One to see corruption [to undergo putrefaction and dissolution of the grave]. [Ps. 16:10.]
Act 13:36 For David, after he had served God’s will and purpose and counsel in his own generation, fell asleep [in death] and was buried among his forefathers, and he did see corruption and undergo putrefaction and dissolution [of the grave].
Act 13:37 But He Whom God raised up [to life] saw no corruption [did not experience putrefaction and dissolution of the grave].
Act 13:41 Look, you scoffers and scorners, and marvel and perish and vanish away; for I am doing a deed in your days, a deed which you will never have confidence in or believe, [even] if someone [clearly describing it in detail] declares it to you. [Hab. 1:5.]
Why will Paul refer to Habakkuk? What is the context?
Let us go to Habakkuk and see.
Hab 1:5 Look around [you, Habakkuk, replied the Lord] among the nations and see! And be astonished! Astounded! For I am putting into effect a work in your days [such] that you would not believe it if it were told you. [Acts 13:40, 41.]
Looking at this, we still battle to see any context.
Hab 2:2 And Jehovah answered me and said, Write the vision, and make it plain on the tablets, that he who reads it may run.
Hab 2:3 For the vision is still for an appointed time, but it speaks to the end, and it does not lie. Though it lingers, wait for it; because it will surely come. It will not tarry.
Hab 1:12 Are You not from everlasting, O Jehovah my God, my Holy One? We shall not die.
What is it saying?
The Lord says to Habakkuk , Write the vision down, for there is an appointed time, when it will manifest. Then no one will believe this. What vision? ” WE WILL NEVER DIE”
The word does say that we shall not all die before He returns!
Psa 102:18 Let this be recorded for the generation yet unborn, that a people yet to be created shall praise the Lord.
Psa 102:20 To hear the sighing and groaning of the prisoner, to loose those who are appointed to death,
These guys new that it was not for there time, but for a generation yet unborn.
1 Pe 1:23 You have been regenerated (born again), not from a mortal origin (seed, sperm), but from one that is immortal by the ever living and lasting Word of God.
1Pe 1:24 For all flesh (mankind) is like grass, and all its glory (honor) like [the] flower of grass. The grass withers and the flower drops off,
1Pe 1:25 But the Word of the Lord (divine instruction, the Gospel) endures forever. And this Word is the good news which was preached to you. [Isa. 40:6-9.]
Yes, all flesh is like grass, BUT when you become BORN AGAIN , from the IMMORTAL SEED of GOD, He will renew your strength and your mortal body will be quickened.
Remember that this is only for those who believe!
If it is still difficult to take it, try the next scripture:
Rom 2:7 To those who by patient persistence in well-doing [springing from piety] seek [unseen but sure] glory and honor and [the eternal blessedness of] immortality, He will give eternal life.
It is in all the translations
To those who seek Glory and Honor AND IMMORTALITY, He will give eternal life.
Right through the Bible we see that GOD wants us to live.
Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to witness this day against you that I have set before you life and death, the blessings and the curses; therefore choose life, that you and your descendants may live.
There was a time when people had an appointment with death, but that appointment with death is cancelled (Ps 102)
This is only a glimpse of what the Word really says.
Kobus van Rensburg wrote:
Jesus of Nazareth wrote:
Either Jesus or Kobus van Rensburg is lying. Take your pick and seal your fate and destination for all eternity. God is not mocked.
I followed the prophet teachings and i just want to say he was a true man of God regardless of what you have to say..He has run His race and I know that the grace of our God was sufficient for Him.just like Paul He asked God to remove the thorn from his flesh,3 times he asked and God said to him that the his grace was sufficient enough for Paul ,A true warrior ,a true soldier of God,He never gave up on God ,in the midst of it all He fixed his eyes on Jesus His master.We salute you man of God.you have now joined those that are cheering us…
Rabe
Where exactly do you think Kobus van Rensburg has gone after his passing? Certainly not heaven because Kobus did not believe in heaven. Did you read the article?
Does it not bother you in the slightest that Kobus preached that he was immortal yet he died? Does it not bother you that this doctrine of immortality is not found in the bible that is why Kobus is not immortal but a mere human who died?
The problem in this world is people do not know the Word and do not have a relationship with the Father, neither with His Son, but follow the doctrines of man, and not the Word.
If and when we truely have a relationship with the Father, we will not teach the doctrines such as this man did.
And on the other end we will also not blindly follow these doctrines of man.
I didn’t have to listen to much of this man to know he is not on base with the Word of G-d.
With reference to immortality — i think Kobus referred to the immortality of the soul which will and can never die — of course it is common knowledge the our flesh will perish
Ruan wrote:
You know as well as I that it is NOT what Kobus van Rensburg had in mind when he said he is immortal. In any case the Bible clearly refers of the second death of all the souls who die without Jesus Christ. Do you think Kobus referred to this as well when he said he is immortal? You seem to suggest it when you say the soul, whether in heaven or hell, is immortal. Your argument is rather weak.
Monica Koch wrote:
I totally agree.
The Prophet spoke the truth. His
passing does not change the truth he spoke. You and your small religious dry website devoid of the Spirit will soon be forgotten once the fruit of the seeds of hate you have been spouting rippens and you drink of the same but the words of the Prophet will endure. I am sorry if this hurts your sensitive tiny egos but I truly hope you repent soon enough before hell sucks down your damned souls
Let’s be like Peter and feed the sheep. Peter too performed miracles in Jesus name and by the power of Jesus. Even more we should try to be as Jesus: loving, merciful, forgiving, honest and true. Further as he is a never changing God, don’t change the context of the bible. Test each and everything by the Spirit. I feel this argument on a man named Kobus is fruitless from both sides. Do the work of God. Don’t be idle!
David wrote:
OK, let’s feed the sheep like Peter. “But Peter said to him, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money!” (Acts 8:20)
And lest you forget, Peter was saying to him: “May you go to hell because you think the Gospel is a moneymaking business.”
David wrote:
You know, you’re so right. All the apostles’ arguments were fruitless. Observe!
So David, you are saying that we should stand by apathetically while millions are led astray by false teachers? Trying to stop people from landing up in hell, sure is fruitless. Goody for you.
charles siamutwa
You seem to be a very intelligent person who can understand reason For goodness sake, Kobus believed he is immortal here on earth and yet he has died. What more do you need to prove that he did not speak the truth? Are you so deceived that you fail to see, perceive, understand, notice that he is dead?
I would just like to say that this website is awesome!!!, 🙂
I’m so glad other people are exposing the work’s of the enemy!! Whoohooo!!, (the wolve’s in sheep’s clothing), even taking place here in South Africa.
An acquaintance spoke to me yesterday in the train on the way to work, he happen’s to listen to Kobus Van Rensburg’s teaching, sit’s under leadership that agree with his teaching and he is unfortunately deceived by it all. After he ‘excitedly’ spoke to me about Kobus’s passing and how he believe’s he will be raised from the dead, and stating the fact that we can be immortal on this earth,I felt very sad, hurt, upset, (mixed emotion’s), to know that people are deceived. I know the enemy is out there.
He also mentioned that they’re keeping Kobus body in his church at current, praying over him.,.. to be raised from the dead.
I gently mentioned to him that if he believe’s and preache’s he is immortal and does not have to die on this earth, first of all he will be the first one out of countless million’s of people (including true christian’s) that have lived on this earth, lol, second of all, it would not be neccesary for people to pray for him to be raised from the dead, if he so strongly belived in immortality-defeat’s the whole purpose.
Once again I am so glad that this website is up and running. Keep up the good work, 🙂
Please may I have one of the owner’s personal email address, I’d like to share something.
Go well, Stacey, 🙂
With regard’s to the above article I wrote, I wanted to google Kobus Van Rensburg and he’s immortality on earth preaching, this is how I came across this website.
Hi Stacey
Thank you for your comment!! Stick around 🙂
Ruan
>> With reference to immortality — i think Kobus referred to the immortality of the soul which will and can never die — of course it is common knowledge the our flesh will perish
That is not what Kobus taught, he taugth that you could be immortal on earth and not die.
If this man lied to me that I am one with the father and that I could never die then God cannot be mocked for sure because I am not dead to sin buit alive in christ who gives me strength.
Please note that Kobus reffered to that moment when Jesus comes for second time. No one knows when Jesus would come and it could have been well during Kobus’s life time. Immortalility is true and it is only that it may come at a time when you don’t know which may be today or tommorrow or years from now. If Jesus come on friday before Kobus died then you would well be saying he told the truth. everything with God is time bound. It is better to start talking or preaching about it now until it comes.
Thomas Lessing, why argue about the word of Jesus Christ with such great wisdom when you can use such effort in the world? Jesus last request and question to Peter John 21-15 “Simon son of John, do you truly love me more than these?” And Peter replied “Yes Lord you know that I love you” Jesus replied “Feed my Lambs”
Further you refer to money when we discuss being IDLE, I refer to the inactiveness of the world and all patrons to do as what Jesus requested. Also move on, Kobus is dead, Gods word is not.
David wrote:
If you are not concerned about the abundance of false teachings that are proliferating the church then you are not concerned about feeding the sheep. I mentioned money because it is the main driving force behind false teaching. You should know that. In any case your attitude that it is fruitless to expose false doctrine is the same as asking “Am I my brother’s keeper?” If you really love Jesus you won’t just preach the Gospel you will expose false doctrine and warn the church about it day and night. In fact Jude wrote:
Yes, Kobus is dead but there are many still alive who are just like him. Are you going to warn people against them or let them be drawn into the abyss hook line and sinker?
I humbly apoogise. I will go work thge streets while you work the blog.
Lejaja
If Kobus was referring to Jesus Christ’s Second Coming in regard to immortality, why are his followers praying for his resurrection in their church? Do they believe the Second Coming has already taken place? And if so, why are they praying? When Jesus returns no one will need to pray because the believers are going to be resurrected without them having to pray.
David
Thanks
David wrote:
The apostles had a two pronged ministry – to preach the Gospel and to expose false doctrine. You cannot preach the Gospel without exposing false doctrine. In any case the Word teaches us:
We are no belittling your street work but you are demeaning our work on this blog. Why? Do you think your street work is more important? Perhaps it is but don’t hamper the less important work of exposing false teaching.
What I have been trying to say is let God do His work for revenge is his not yours. Lies will be exposed and so also false prophets with time. You and I should be working on obtaining souls for Christ.
“Let the dead bury the dead” words of Jesus, not mine
David
And what about the poor souls who are being misled, especially the young lambs? Should we allow them to be thrown to the wolves in sheep’s clothing so that they may be ravished and torn apart by them?
The word of GOD is foolish to those who are parishing.John3v16 he came to this world to save his beloved once.Immortality is not for non-believers.
Tshepo
Was Kobus van Rensburg and unbeliever cause he died.
intresting
Dear Deborah and the Crew that are judging Kobus. It’s a sure sign that you don’t know God, because if you knew God, you couldn’t sit back relax and wait for Kobus to say something that you perceive to be wrong, so that you can judge, criticise and prove him wrong. Instead, you would be crying, praying and fasting for him to truly know God, because he met a lot of people. You will pray that Oh God, let this man be saved, so that whatever comes out of his mouth will be pure for millions to be saved. If you know God, where is the love of God in you? Why casting stones? Pray, cry out to God for the souls that are going astray. You said Prophet TB Joshua and Kobus are false, fine. Then if you know that they are false, then it means you are true, then let God send you to Lagos, to Rustenburg etc to save the people their. If you can’t go and reach out to the people in the places I have mentioned, then shut up and pray. If you can’t shut up and pray , but judge, then you don’t know God, and if you don’t know God, then everything that is coming out of your mouth is useless. So you can quote all the verses you want, but you are denying the power. And if you are denying the power then everything you are quaoting is worthyless(to you). For Kobus, it is finished, you work out your own salvation with fear and terrimbling. At whatever point in time, that you feel that anyone is leading people astray, PRAY or enter the ministry and lead all the people on earth to God. Leave the judging business to God. By the way, if you ask me questions to argue, I won’t respond, but if you ask me questions to know, I will.
so if someone passes away and does not wake up, how do u explain immortality. what I understand about life after death is in john 11:25 we will rise again with him. but saying that we live forever in this body is extreem and out of the blocks.