Chuck Missler and Roger Oakland Exposed
Chuck Missler and Roger Oakland Exposed: Do Not be Unequally Yoked Together with Unbelievers
It is with a very heavy heart that I re-post this article because there is a man who I looked up to that I am now going to expose – Roger Oakland.
I had previously done an article on Chuck Missler here: Dr. Chuck Missler, SWANsat and the Auricâ„¢ Currency and one on his Wife, Nancy Missler here: Nancy Missler and Henrietta Mears but the time has come to expose Roger Oakland. Unfortunately Roger Oakland is in the middle of all this. I dunno how he got there, only he knows why he is associating with such a man as Chuck Missler and Ron Matsen.
The Bible is very clear on the matter on who you associate with.
2 Corinthians 6:14 “14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?”
UPDATED 12/5/2016 – Please read article at the very end of this article regarding William P Welty, Chuck Missler, Ron Matsen and a SHOCKING new book released in May 2016 about Mary the mother of God – the Queen of Heaven.
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Brian Hughes also has no problem being ECUMENICAL with Roman Catholics –
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Please read here from more on Roger Oakland: ephesians511blog.blogspot.com/2012/01/roger-oakland-enigma-revealed-in-these.html“> Roger Oakland, an enigma revealed in these last days
Proof that Roger Oakland was contacted numerous times about Chuck Missler MONTHS before the article went live on the internet – ephesians511blog.blogspot.com/2012/01/response-to-comments-on-galatians-4.html
Response to comments on Galatians 4 blog [Warning: If you decide to go to GalationsFour blog from ephesians511blog please use discernment when entering GalationsFour website, they are vehemently anti Pre-Trib which means they hold to the Roman Catholic Post-Trib.] ephesians511blog.blogspot.com/2012/01/response-to-comments-on-galatians-4.html
UPDATED: A couple of years later Roger Oakland is STILL sharing a stage with Chuck Missler: Roger – A Fraud Perpetrated Upon Believers
NEW!! UPDATED: 5/12/2016 – Please read this SHOCKING news about William P Welty, Chuck Missler, Ron Matsen and a new book released in May 2016 about Mary the mother of God: William Welty and Koinonia House – the Adoration of Mary book.
Hi Deb,
I wrote to Tom that I’m done here, but that was before I saw your post. I can understand your frustration with men “apostatizing,” and what should the Godly woman do then? I am not black-and-white dogmatic on this issue. But the ideal goal is what the Bible says and on the other hand, why don’t you find an environment, where the men are not apostatizing. I realize it is not always easy and I also know that certain women use this for an excuse to usurp the leadership – even though there are Godly men – she just does not want to yield to their leadership. I am not saying you are like that, too, I do not know you.
I really do not have time for long debates, I will just conclude with this:
While you are a woman and Tom a man, your way of communicating does strike me as more mature and loving than his. His hasty asumptions about me did get me mad. I expected better. God bless you.
What you all perhaps failed to notice in your zeal was simply me trying to say, “I am not saying that all you do is wrong, I am saying you might consider to tone it down a bit. It is not apostatizing, it is wisdom. What do you gain if you make everybody mad – I don’t mean when people do get offended by the truth of the Scriptures, but when you make wrong asumptions, like Tom did about me?
In case of Chuck Missler, I do not take everything from him, e.g. the Bible codes. But I think you still are too harsh on him, (considering the end times apostacy all around) and likewise on othters. Did you not get it from my first post? Can you forgive people their mistakes? Have you listened to Chuck’s You Tube videos fall-winter 2017? You might try that – he sounded like a well informed and solid brother, not like a heretic.
There are bunch of other well respected teachers who “teach Nephilim,” in the sense that angels did have children with women in Gen 6. I believe that, too, there is no better explanation of how else the giants could be born to human women, but I am not dogmatic about it. I may be wrong, and so may you. These are non-conclusive areas, it would not be wise to take a dogmatic stand on difficult passages like this one.
BTW, what about the huge, thousands of years old structures – who built them if not “Nephilim?” We still actually need to distinquish between the Nephillim, which are the hybrid children of FALLEN angels and women, and the existence of fallen angels on earth. Did they just make their offsprings and immediatelly were cast to hell (2 Pet 2:4) or did they exist here for some time? Like I said, Jesus did not say that angels cannot procreate ON EARTH, and the author of Hebrews indicates (as well as Gen 18 for example) that angels do take on a form of human body….
Just try to do a better research on this. There are findings of huge skeletons, real findings…. The “state” has been trying to conceal these findings. There has been a lawsuit from archeologists against Smithsonian museum for destroying these skeletons. A real lawsiut with real evidence. These giants were not just tall people, but serious giants, around 12 feet tall and even taller… The later mention of Nephilim – may as well be about same kind of giants again, not necessarily “just about tall people.” If some angels could fall before the Flood, why they could not fall as well after the Flood? You may see more of that before the Lord’s return.
Esau married a granddaughter of a giant – do you think God would be mad at him just because he married a granddaughter of a tall guy? Do you think God would want to destroy the giants just because they were tall people? Try not to yield to the automatic reflex of rejecting anything which you don’t currently believe. Do your research, sift through the fakes and see the real stuff. So, let’s not be too dogmatic about these difficult issues and not too quick to condemn people, who understand them differently, like Chuck Missler.
There is a difference between standing up for the truth and being needlessly narrow-minded.
God bless,
Pastor Milan
Hi there Pastor Milan,
You don’t seem to like it when someone quotes Jesus, John, and Paul to you. What you actually did, was not to rebuke me but to rail against Jesus, John, and Paul. So nice of you, my friend. Keep up the good work and continue to defend some of your best friends whilst you belittle the teaching of Jesus, John, and Paul.
You quoted Mark 11:26 totally out of context as most of your other Scripture references. You can only forgive someone like Chuck Missler when he has asked forgiveness for his meandering off into false doctrines like Roman Catholicism. Has he since recanted and asked forgiveness, especially those whom he has misled, like yourself?
If, as you suggest, I won the argument, then it is only because I quoted Jesus, John and Paul word for word. So, in future, whenever you wish to debate someone who quotes Jesus, John and Paul rather give them the credit for winning the argument and not the person who quoted them. You are not fighting with me or this site. You are fighting Jesus, John, and Paul, and guess who has already won the battle.
Milan wrote:
OK wiseguy, according to you I made assumptions about you whilst I merely quoted Jesus, John, and Paul. How about you telling them to tone it down a bit and remind them “it is not apostatizing, it is wisdom.” Of course, people get mad when quoting to them cutting edge truths from the lips of Jesus, John, and Paul. Jesus was crucified for doing it, John was sent to Patmos for doing it and Paul was beheaded for doing it. You are happily toning everything down to save your own skin. Are you following the Jesus of the Bible or another Jesus?
Read these articles if you will.
https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/05/19/nephilim/
https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/05/24/nephilim-part-2/
Tom said:
You may have a lot of Roman Catholic, Charismatic, Emergent Church and Calvinist friends but obviously, you never warn them against their dangerous heresies…
Tom also said:
OK wiseguy, according to you I made assumptions about you whilst I merely quoted Jesus, John, and Paul.
Milan’s answer:
Tom, perhaps now, you can see better that you did make wrong assumptions that I never warned them, because I did – and thus you lie when you say you only quoted Jesus, John and Paul…
I rest my case.
Pastor Milan
So it’s OK if you warn heretics but as soon as we do it we are unloving, judgmental and make the wrong assumptions.
Tom,
1. There is a difference how you do it. I make enough effort to maintain the relationships (as much as it is possible), while you admit you kind of write them off. When I see the way “you are asking for it” when you write to me, it is not hard to imagine, how easily you make your heretical friends mad.
2. You DID make wrong asumptions, as I pointed out to you, and you did twist the Scripture as I pointed out to you.
How can you still deny it? How can you have some credibility if you keep denying the obvious? That’s what I mean about contentious. The honest debate admits mistakes, does not insist on wrong assumptions and does not ignore arguments when you can’t disprove them. Sorry to say this, but you are too militant to be taken seriously.
I started reading your post on Nephilim you listed, I did not finish it yet, but at any case, Vernon Gray, whoever he is, seems to have more logical arguments than you and I noticed you tend to put words into his mouth. Also, there is an aura of your spiritual pride. Stuff like this will not make you a respected “discernment minister.”
I am not really sure why I am still writing to you, since you’re so hard of listening, hopefully God can at some point use it to help you re-consider your approach. And if not, hey, it is your life and your problem.
Pastor Milan
Wow, I must commend you for your ability to see what’s in my heart and to judge it according to your own standards. I shan’t be answering any of your comments in future. You are wasting my time. You accuse me of things without substantiating it. When where and how did I put words in Vernon Gray’s mouth when you haven’t even read the rest of my posts? You are groping in the dark, as usual.
Dear Pastor Milan
You said “why don’t you find an environment, where the men are not apostatizing”
Where, a hole in the ground? Or Chuck Missler’s secretary, considering you said “I have never heard him preach a false Gospel” so he must be a true man of God. Never the less, me disappearing, would suit the world of apostatizing men rather nicely, wouldn’t it.
You said “Also, there is an aura of your spiritual pride. Stuff like this will not make you a respected “discernment minister.”
You can see Tom’s aura? :scream: What colour is it?
It’s clear you stand with Chuck Missler and all his false teaching; Nephilim included based on your comments to Tom where…
You said “I started reading your post on Nephilim you listed, I did not finish it yet, but at any case, Vernon Gray, whoever he is, seems to have more logical arguments than you.”
I rest my case.
Cherio Bye/
PS, it’s pretty apparent you are very much against what we do here; exposing false teaching and it’s adherents, it’s strange but it almost comes across as being rather jealous – hence you have to keep putting us down. This website is Jesus Christ’s website, not ours.
I am not sure what you say is right or wrong. But I have an advise to you is Matthew 7:1-5 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.” God bless.
If you are not sure whether we are right or wrong, why do you judge us? I too have some advice for you.
But the natural man (unsaved man) receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. (1 Corinthians 2:14-16)
Dear Yat Fai
Have you ever applied that verse to yourself?
At the end of the day we know that people are looking to have their ears tickled; heaping teachers unto themselves. I made a decision years ago to stop looking for MY TRUTH on the inter and just read my bible: My KJV bible. That’s the only way. We can waste too much time looking at all this and inhibit our own growth. People get what they deserve.
Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:
Even you eh! Wow!!
Dear Phillip
Are you being sarcastic?
I’m wondering if you understand all scriptures yourself? Probably not eh?
Having said that, I go out of my way to study scriptures I don’t understand to figure out what they mean. Do you do that?
Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:
Hello Deborah, I trust you are well.
Thank you for responding to my rather terse comment. No, I was not being sarcastic, my comment was a cheap shot for which on reflection I apologise. My comment was unkind, ungracious and inappropriate for one who names the name of Christ. I made you an offender for a few words.
I do not understand all of the scriptures but I hope I am passionate in the pursuit of Divine truth. Not that there are many truths, there is only one by definition which is Jesus Christ. The extent to which my passion is genuine will be made manifest at the judgement seat of Christ.
Best wishes
Phillip
Hi Phillip
No problem 🙂
[…] article) Page 98 I cannot do better than simply to show this following link which says it all! https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/01/09/do-not-be-unequally-yoked-together-with-unbelievers-chu… I also wrote (a number of times) to those who still endorse Chuck Missler (like Moriel […]
FYI: I just published a book titled, “Nephilim and Giants as per Pop-Researchers” which is a comprehensive consideration of the claims of I.D.E. Thomas, Chuck Missler, Dante Fortson, Derek Gilbert, Brian Godawa, Patrick Heron, Thomas Horn, Ken Johnson, L.A. Marzulli, Josh Peck, CK Quarterman, Steve Quayle, Rob Skiba, Gary Wayne, Jim Wilhelmsen, et al.: http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/new-book-%E2%80%9Cnephilim-and-giants-pop-researchers%E2%80%9D
Hi Ken
I’ll check out the link.
You speak as if you actually have something say that is going to snatch unsuspecting believers from the very gates of hell with your list of iron clad accusations of a man you are obviously threatened by. I know way more about Chuck Missler than you know about being an accuser like your father the devil. Now BE SILENT and wither away like the FRUITLESS fig tree you USED to be… Selah
Garrett Jarrard. Do you also believe in Churck and Nancy’s purgatory for believers?
QUESTION: SOMEONE SENT ME A COPY OF A BOOK BY CHUCK AND NANCY MISSLER…
Will you also call The Berean Call fruitless and children of the devil? If so, you have been badly influenced by Chuck Missler and that’s not a good thing.
Are you a Nephilim fan, like Chuck had been?
Dear Garrett Jarrard
On another note, you said “and wither away like the FRUITLESS fig tree you USED to be…”
That doesn’t make any sense and I’m rather confused… :wonder: If we USED to be the fruitless fig tree, that means we are no longer fruitless but very fruitful.
Anyhow, an answer to Tom’s question regarding Chuck and Nancy’s Christian purgatory would be nice 🙂 I have actually spoken about this on this site.
“Will you also call The Berean Call fruitless and children of the devil? If so, you have been badly influenced by Chuck Missler and that’s not a good thing.”
After reading so much here in less than a week, The Berean Call is the ONLY Ministry I trust anymore. Them and my KJB. I’m done. I used to follow Chuck Missler, I got a bad feeling from that Matsen guy so I quit.. Glad I did, I’ve been weeding for months..I have no one left but the BC..May they stay faithful. What eye openers about Missler. Never in a million years would I have believed it. Thanks so much, Deb & Tom. God HAD to have led me to you for a reason. The more I read the more I learn. God bless you both!
Hi Deborah,
More on SWANsat.
WDN has published an updated news report, on February 10, 2021, re this satellite based private computer network system, which is filed at the ITU and formerly directed by William Welty (dec) and Charles Missler (dec).
The report reads: ‘One platform for all’ to counter Google, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube – Tech entrepreneur to roll out platform built on free speech, and privacy.
Jeffrey Sisk is the former CEO of SWANsat. He says that Find.com will begin with a messaging platform similar to Twitter then add the search, social networking and video features, putting them together in one app. ‘One platform for all’ to counter Google, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube (wnd.com)
Jeffrey Sisk said it’s the convergence of an amazing brand name, innovative technology and a public that is desperate to find any new way to help win this war on truth (please take note). Who would, but Sisk is inviting the millions of Americans who are seeking an alternative to the Big Tech giants to join him in funding the venture.
The report and Jeffrey Sisk don’t tell the readers that SWANsat is in full compliance with and reliance upon the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights. This report only mentions supporting the bill of Rights. Also, there’s no mention that United Nations resolution 60/99(6January 2006) fully supports the SWANsat system concept. Nor that the SWANsat system intends to implement the United Nations Millennium Development Goals: which has now grown into the 2015 Agenda 2030 for Sustainable Development for Transforming Our World.
Federal Ministry of Economics and Technology – [PDF Document] (vdocuments.mx)
Hope this post is helpful to readers. Alison
Thank you Alison!