The General Conversation Section – If You Don’t Know Where to Say it, Say it Here!

Hanelie says:

Oh no! That’s why I said I was worried that it might not work out of context! Because that is exactly what it was about – being aware of your utter sinfulness and that there is nothing you can bring to God to earn salvation. I’ve seen so many incorrect uses of the phrase “poor in spirit”, that it was really a great joy to find someone explaining it like this … and I was just as excited now to see you giving the exact same description. 😀

The pastor used Ravenhill’s definition to make it practical in a different way, to bring it home, or to illustrate something of we as Christians live in the world as a result of this. I did not see (because of the context in which it was used) any reference to material wealth in it. I read in it instead something about a way of thinking, and a way of being – not to having or not having material possessions, but rather to your relationship with them. It is not about me, my possessions, my ambitions, my good name, but about God. So, when people call me names because of what I believe, it’s not about me; I don’t have to protect myself, because it is about something bigger than me. Not sure if that makes sense.

This is how this pastor summarizes the first three beatitudes:
1. the first is about understanding your utter sinfulness (intellectually)
2. the second is about that intellectual understanding moving to your heart and becoming an emotion
3. the third is about being okay with others knowing that about you

So it is knowing that we are sinners (unable to help ourselves), mourning the fact that we are sinners and being willing to be seen as sinners. I found it quite a powerful way of thinking about it.

Bettye says:

What about 119 Ministeries?? Their website is testeverything.net.. Anyone know about this?

[EDITED by DTW – Bettye, I moved this from the Chuck Missler article to the General conversation topic :)]

Hanelie says:

Different topic: A brief word of warning to anyone who have young children/teenagers re the movie “Brave”.

I actually hold the view that pretty much everything that comes from Hollywood is to be frowned upon. Yet, in an unguarded moment, I allowed my daughter to go see “Brave”. Upon returning home, she very quickly told me that she felt uncomfortable in the movie because it had a witch. That night, she woke from a nightmare (when she gets nightmares or unexplained headaches, it usually is a sign of exposure to some form of occultic elements).

The next day, we worked through the Christian armour again, and we talked through the event, also what to do should she ever find herself in a similar situation in future. I was amazed at her spiritual insight as we talked through the movie, and really glad that she picked up the problem with it immediately. A very good friend (of similar Christian views as ours), the same night, made the same mistake.

I learned again that we cannot let our guard down, not even for a moment.

Osito says:

Hi Deborah,

Sorry but i lost the privelage of asking question when i was at crc, so if i ask to many question just tell me to slow down. I can see on this site you answer a lot of question and it must be a lot of work. When i aksed the people at crc something it took them +- 4 months to came back with a stupit answer.

Rick warrens has he anything to do with the IFCC? Becuase i see crc is also now part leader of the IFCC.

Alf Hutchison says:

To answer your question I am A Baptist Deborah… originally Methodist.

Myfanwy Brown says:

Debs, the reason Alf is asking is because he thinks he can ‘catch you out’ somehow. This is Alf Hutchison’s MO I am afraid to say! I would not even go there if I were you Alf, you are wasting your time. The real truth is spoken on this site, and Debs, John, BL and others here are full of wisdom and discernment. You won’t get away with trying to flog your false teachings on DTW!!

Redeemed says:

To answer Alf’s question and one has to wonder just why he is bringing this up out of the blue, but it is an important question because it relates to the fulfillment of prophecy concerning our Lord. Churches commonly celebrate “Good Friday” and this is really inaccurate. It is true that the most important thing is to recognize why the Lord died and was sacrificed for us.

A Friday crucifixion would not allow the days necessary for Christ to be in the grave until His resurrection on Sunday morning. Jesus said the Scripture must be fulfilled, all things are written in the law and the prophets about Him and must be fulfilled. It was written that He would be 3 days and 3 nights in the grave. There is no way to get 3 nights from a Friday afternoon crucifixion, Friday night-Saturday night, to a Sunday morning resurrection. John Chapter 19, says that Jesus was on the cross at the very time that the Passover lambs were being slain. It was the 10th of Nissan when they took the lambs out of the flock and observed them for 4 days to make sure they were without spot and blemish and acceptable for sacrifice. Exodus 12:6, very clearly says:
6 Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight.

He rode into Jerusalem on the 10th of Nissan, just as Zechariah 9:9 foretells, on what we observe as Palm Sunday.

“Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion!
Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your King is coming to you;
He is just and having salvation,
Lowly and riding on a donkey,
A colt, the foal of a donkey.

The Word says the Lamb had to be slain on the 14th day of the month. If Jesus is going to be who He claimed to be, that’s going to be on Thursday, the 14th, Palm Sunday is the 10th, the 14th is Thursday, and He was crucified when the lambs were being slain. He was in the grave 3 nights—Thursday, Friday, Saturday and the days of Friday, Saturday and part of Sunday, exactly as the Bible said.

It’s very important that the Scriptures be fulfilled. The Jewish leaders said that they had to take Jesus down from the cross because the Sabbath was imminent. This is where there is often confusion. It was not the regular Saturday Sabbath. 19:31 says, Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

It was a special Sabbath, observed every 7 years, not the regular Saturday Sabbath. Thursday afternoon, they would call it before sundown would be evening, the lambs were slain. Then, after sundown they were roasted with fire and the Passover observed. That is the first day of a 7-day Feast of Unleavened Bread, it is a High Sabbath. It was a High Sabbath, a special Sabbath, and the next day was another Sabbath, Saturday.

I don’t know how Alf comes up with Christ being crucified on the 13th day of the month because that would contradict what the Bible says.

Scriptures from NKJV

Alf Hutchison says:

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