Biblical Holy Spirit vs. Unholy Spirit of Fire
Holy Spirit vs. Filthy Spirit of Fire, the calling down of Fire from heaven over a congregation, or praying Fire over someone is the norm in the church today. It has come to resemble the early heretic Gnostic churches. Religious ecstasy (or Kundalini) was to be found in the mystery religions of the first century A.D. Back when the Corinth church seemed to be a hub of pagan Gnostic knowledge and ran rampant in unscriptural and immoral practices; the Greek mystery religions had prophets who babbled in unknown tongues which were caused by a Kundalini awakening.
Below is a table explaining the differences between The Biblical Holy Spirit compared to The Kundalini unholy spirit that masquerades as the Biblical Holy Spirit. This table is exhaustive and contains everything you need to know:
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Who is the Holy Spirit? |
Who is the Kundalini unholy spirit? |
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How do we receive the Holy Spirit |
How do we get this unholy spirit? |
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** Through the false ‘Baptism of the unholy Spirit’.** The calling down of Fire (Serpent Fire).
** Being filled with the Unholy Ghost by Fire.
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Are there any happenings that go with the filling of the Holy Spirit? |
Are there any feelings or happenings that go with this filling of the unholy spirit? |
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What does ‘Walking in the Spirit’ mean?. What does being “Filled by the Holy Spirit’ mean? |
What happens when we have opened our Third Eye? (6th Chakra) |
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Evidence or Signs: |
False Signs and Wonders: |
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This Kundalini spirit is found in all religions across the world just under different names:
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False ‘unholy spirit fire‘ in action masquerading as Holy Spirit:
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Montanism
Montanism was an early Gnostic so called Christian movement of the late 2nd century, later referred to by the name of its founder, Montanus, but originally known by its adherents as the New Prophecy (or ‘The Phyrgian Heresy’) . The heretical movement spread rapidly to other regions in the Roman Empire at a time before Christianity was generally tolerated or legal. It persisted in some isolated places into the 6th century.
It was a prophetic movement that called for a reliance on the spontaneity of the Holy Spirit and spoke extra biblical revelation. Parallels have been made between Montanism and modern day movements such as the charismatic movement, and the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). [1]
As the name “New Prophecy” implied, Montanism was a movement focused around prophecy, specifically those of the movement’s founders which were believed to contain the Holy Spirit’s revelation for the present age.[2] New Prophecy departed from Church tradition as described by Eusebius of Caesarea [3]: “And he [Montanus] became beside himself, and being suddenly in a sort of frenzy and ecstasy, he raved, and began to babble and utter strange things, prophesying in a manner contrary to the constant custom of the Church handed down by tradition from the beginning.”[4]
The Montanist prophets did not speak as messengers of God but were described as possessed by God while being unable to resist. Montanists believed that the new prophecies superseded and fulfilled the doctrines proclaimed by the Apostles.[5] Thus, they were seen as false prophets because they acted irrationally and were not in control of their senses.[6]
The Roman Catholic unholy spirit of FIRE
The church has gone so far with this unholy fire that it has literally ENGULFED the entire church. You need to be permanently on FIRE for God according to the powers that be (TBN (Trinity Broadcasting Network), God TV, Rodney Howard-Browne, Kenneth Copeland, Angus Buchan, Rick Joyner, Ray McCauley, Cindy Jacobs, Deon Hockey, Kim Clement, Marc Bredenkamp, Leon du Preez, Harold Weitsz, et al.) as they spell out their incantation and throw FIRE, FIRE, and more FIRE in the congregations direction. Those in the congregation who have experienced this religious ecstasy want more, and those who have not experienced it, want to experience it because they believe this is the Holy Spirit as work.
The ‘Heart of God is now on FIRE‘ and everyone is pushed in this direction by the church to get to know ‘God’s heart‘. What they don’t tell you is that this ‘Heart of God’ is the Roman Catholic Sacred Heart of Jesus, and it is also the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
The church as it currently stands is being shoved towards pagan ROME at a rapid speed. But in order for Pentecostals and Charismatics to accept Roman Catholicism they would first have to accept the ‘spirit‘ by which it operates. Rome’s EVANGELIZATION of non-Catholics started decades ago, and their hard labour has paid off. Just as the ancient Egyptians viewed Kundalini as being ‘Ra‘ who is symbolized as the sun because the sun is the source of kundalini energy. So does the Roman Catholic Church who, worships the Sun god Mithra (incarnation of Ra).
Let’s have a look and see that the bible says about “fire called down from heaven” in the New Testament.
Revelation 13:13 “he [antichrist] doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,”
G4442 πῦρ pur (pïr’) n.
fire.
{literally or figuratively}
This fire is spiritual and literal. In the last days, the antichrist, the false Church, and it’s followers call down spiritual FIRE from heaven onto earth – this fire is satanic, it’s captures your soul with fake love and false manifestations that capture your mind. The antichrist will also bring down real fire from heaven in the sight of me to deceive them.
Was fire ever called down from heaven when Jesus walked the earth? Nope, how do we know? Well let’s go to God’s Word…look at this:
During Jesus’ earthly ministry, the disciples James and John wanted to call down fire from heaven in judgment of a Samaritan village that did not welcome the Lord Jesus Christ. What did Jesus Christ say to his disciples?
Luke 9:55- “But He turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.“
As we can clearly see from the bible, this spirit is from Satan, and is NOT the Holy Spirit. Jesus had not come “to condemn the world, but to save the world” (John 3:17)
This ‘fire that is called down from heaven’ is from Satan, another spirit, an unholy spirit – that condemns you.
[Edited 5 Oct 2018: I’ve added this to explain the above in more detail because of this comment: 2018/10/05 at 3:17 pm:
Please note I am not saying that God did not ever use fire to destroy wickedness.
In the verses Luke 9:54-56 Jesus rebukes his disciples for trying to call down fire from heaven, why? Jesus would never rebuke Elijah for what he did in calling down fire to destroy wickedness, if He did He would be rebuking the Father Himself as God rained fire and brimstone down on Sodom and Gomorrah and surrounding towns. One needs to compare OT to NT. Different dispensations.
What do the words “You know not what manner of spirit you are of.” mean? James and John in all their faithful zeal to Jesus Christ thought they were doing a good thing by wanting to destroy the wicked town that rejected Jesus by doing as Elijah did when he called down fire under OT Law. However the Apostles in training as I call them (Peter, James, John) had just recently seen Moses and Elias speaking with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration. So James and John, thinking they could copy Elijah, where wrong in their thinking, and were in fact sinning when they wanted to call down fire, because they did not understand and they were under grace and Jesus didn’t operate like that. That is why Jesus rebuked them.
Anyone who wants to call down fire (be it physical fire or spiritual fire to destroy the soul) in this age of grace has a spirit of vengeance and it’s not from God.
This fire is a counterfeit. It’s a fire that leads to the UNITY of all religions, the joining of Protestant and Catholic, a co-reformation – into the false Christian church we have today. ]
2018: Year of the Holy Ghost and Fire by Kenneth Copeland
Please read the full comment where I give a transcript from Kenneth Copeland on what ‘burning the chaff’ means in his dictionary.
Charles Spurgeon
And if you think calling down fire is limited to only Charismatics? Think again. The so called ‘Prince of Preachers’ of Calvinism, Charles Spurgeon himself called down demonic Kunalini fire.
Holy Fire / Divine Fire / Heart of Flame
Holy Fire
Charles Spurgeon: “The church needs fire to quicken her ministers, to give zeal and energy to all her members. Having this fire, she burns her way to success! The world meets her with the fire of firewood, but she confronts the world with the fire of kindling spirits, and of souls aglow with the love of Jesus Christ. She trusts not to the wit, and eloquence, and wisdom of her preachers, but to the divine fire which clothes them with energy! She knows that men are irresistible when they are filled with hallowed enthusiasm sent from God. She trusts therefore in this, and her cry is, “Come, Holy Fire, abide upon our pastors and teachers! Rest upon every one of us!” —The Superlative Excellence of the Holy Spirit #574 https://www.spurgeongems.org/vols10-12/chs574.pdf
Divine Fire
Charles Spurgeon: “Brothers, I beseech you keep to the old gospel, and let your souls be filled with it, and then may you be set on fire with it! When the wick is saturated, let the flame be applied. Fire from Heaven is still the necessity of the age. They call it “go”, and there is nothing which goes like it; for when fire once starts upon a vast prairie or forest, all that is dry and withered must disappear before its terrible advance. May God Himself, who is a consuming fire, ever burn in you as in the bush at Horeb! All other things being equal, that man will do most who has most of the Divine fire.” — How to Meet the Evils of the Age Chapter 4 https://archive.spurgeon.org/misc/aarm04.php
Occult teaching on Holy fire and Divine fire
Theosophy: “In a certain sense, the task before the disciple is the evocation of the “divine fire“, Kundalini, and the infusion of the principle of Will in him by that divine fire; the golden light mingling with the red flame, to produce the colour of the mystic rose. The fiery aspiration of the disciple evokes the higher celestial fire, and the two blend in one, the holy fire which shall thereafter illumine and enkindle that disciple’s heart and life and every act.” –— The Theosophical Quarterly Volumes 17-18 1919 edited by Clement Acton Griscom pg. 226, https://books.google.com/books?id=g3g1AQAAMAAJ
Heart of Flame (see Roman Catholic Heart of Fire above)
Spurgeon: “But we bless God that there are not so many of that sort, now, and we pray that the race may become quite extinct—and that every pulpit may be filled with a man who has a tongue of fire and a heart of flame and who shuns not to declare the whole counsel of God, neither seeking the smiles of men nor dreading their frowns!” — The Dumb Singing #2625 http://www.spurgeongems.org/vols43-45/chs2625.pdf
Occult teaching on Heart of Flame
Universal Brotherhood (Theosophical teachings):”Then One spoke – He of the mighty arm – He of the eye of power. And He inquired (speaking calm and low, and looking round on all the gathered throng) who would willing go into the world of flesh – to waken all the souls that now could hear, and teach to them the meaning high, sublime, of life; show them the Movement – flowing onward like a river vast, with but one source and end; teach them how to enter on that tide, and moving with Love – and for this Fire Divine in thee thou hast been called ‘The Heart of Flame.” — UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD, Volume 15, nos. 7-12, pg. 439-440 https://www.scribd.com/document/37146710/Universal-Brotherhood-v15-n7-12
Salvation or Deliverance
If you need salvation and or deliverance from this false unholy spirit or any other demonic spirit, please read this article: Seeking Salvation or Deliverance.
Here is an excellent article that explains the history, characteristics and fruit of the Vatican Second Council New Evangelization initiative: The New Evangelical – Evil fit for a New Dark Age. See this article on the Roman Catholic goddess Mary (incarnation of Isis, etc) : Mary Queen of Heaven – Whore of Babylon
A collage of images taken from the internet showing an explosion of demonic FIRE. Everything now involves this unholy FIRE; from books, music, banners, posters, tattoos, t-shirts and background pictures for your pc.
Notes:
[1] Robeck, Cecil M., Jr. (2010). “Montanism and Present Day ‘Prophets'”. Pneuma: the Journal of the Society for Pentecostal Studies 32: 413.
[2] Tabbernee, Prophets and Gravestones, p. 68.
[3] Tabbernee, Prophets and Gravestones, pp. 12, 37.
[4] Eusebius of Caesarea, Ecclesiastical History Book 5. Chapter 16. paragraph 7.
[5] a b c Chapman, John (1911). “Montanists”. The Catholic Encyclopedia. 10. Robert Appleton Company. Retrieved 27 June 2011.
[6] Epiphanius, Against Heresies, 48.3-4.
Whilst I fully realise we won’t come to a common consensus I think at the heart of this discussion is not just theological difference but also a fear of unbridled emotionalism. I understand that and I know too well it is not simply all about feelings for the ‘the just shall live by faith’ Romans 1:17b. I have known many times in my Christian walk when in spite of feelings I have simply trusted in His word and times when I have let Him down! But like Peter I have come back repeatedly to the belief ‘to whom shall I go for you have the words of eternal life.’
At the same time I take encouragement in verses like ‘the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.’ Romans 5:5b and Romans 8:23 that point to the indwelling Holy Spirit as a foretaste of future glory. These things are bound to stir our emotions and give us something to rejoice about.
I am woefully aware of Charismatic excess and I have challenged what I’ve seen as wrong and improper but I cannot deny my understanding of scripture nor the ways God has dealt with me.
Dear Marilyn
You said “But when that which is perfect is come….”
Is Jesus Christ a ‘that’ or a ‘He’?
The words ‘that which is perfect’ in Greek means teleios which means complete
G5046 τέλειος teleios (tel’-ei-os) adj.
1. complete
{(neuter as noun, with G3588) completeness; in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.}
1 Corinthians 13:10 refers to the Word of God not to Jesus Christ who said ‘it is Finished’ on the cross (John 19:30).
Dear Marilyn
You said “As God answered prayer I fell down and got up again. What followed was a greater love for Jesus and a desire to know more of God’s word. A few years later in my bedroom again, at a Non Pentecostal/Charismatic Christian college I spoke in tongues for the first time for the duration of an hour whilst being wonderfully aware of God’s presence and love.”
And did you test the spirits to see if what happened to you was from God…or did you just accept it to be a true biblical experience?
You said “infilling of the Holy Spirit”
An infilling of the Holy Spirit is not to be knocked down by some invisible force, it’s to grow in the knowledge and understanding of the Word of God, as a born again Christian, the infilling of the Holy Spirit happens continuously as He teaches you the Word and the more you learn the more you want to learn and the more He teaches you.
You see, you prayed to receive a charismatic ‘infilling of the Holy Spirit’ also known as receiving ‘Holy Spirit power’ and God did not answer you because its not biblical, but someone else did answered you. And you never questioned it.
You said “I had never once witnessed ‘slaying in the Spirit.’ You don’t have to go to a false teacher to be slain in the spirit… you were ‘slain in the spirit’ in your room by this force, because you asked for something ungodly to happen to you. Do you think that because you were young that Satan would never come an interfere in your spiritual life? Do you think he leaves children alone and only attacks adults? And that is why years later you spoke in tongues, due to your earlier experience of being slain in the spirit.
You said “I spoke in tongues for the first time for the duration of an hour whilst being wonderfully aware of God’s presence and love.”
Tom asked you those 4 questions earlier on which you didn’t answer, on of those questions was: 4) Are tongues meant for believers or unbelievers?
Let’s go back to Toms comment where he said
1) Was there an unbeliever in your room at the time?
2) Did you speak in your mother tongue and they heard you speak in their mother tongue for them to hear and believe the gospel?
I think now is the time to question who knocked you down and why you were speaking in gibberish.
You said that while you were speaking in tongues you were “wonderfully aware of God’s presence and love.”
1) Are there levels to being a Christian?
2) Are all Christians the same or are some better than others?
3) What must a Christian feel, who never get’s to have an experience to be wonderfully aware of God’s presence and love?
4) Do you therefore say that all Christians should experience what you experienced and therefor earnestly seek it?
Please read this article on What is Entering ‘The Presence’ Really all About?
Dear Marilyn
You said “Whilst I fully realise we won’t come to a common consensus I think at the heart of this discussion is not just theological difference but also a fear of unbridled emotionalism.”
The heart of this discussion is obedience to the Word of God or disobedience.
You said “I am woefully aware of Charismatic excess and I have challenged what I’ve seen as wrong and improper but I cannot deny my understanding of scripture nor the ways God has dealt with me.”
You are woefully aware of what others experience, and will question them, and they argue with you because to them ‘it felt so real and so Godly’ but you won’t question your experiences because to you ‘it felt so real and so Godly.’
There is no scripture to support you or anyone being ‘knocked down of falling down’ by an invisible force in the bible, yet you accept it as being biblical.
Hi Debs,
It is very interesting that you should mention the fact that some Christians believe there are levels to be attained to in their Christian walk which makes them somewhat better than others. My daughter in-law once told someone else she wished her husband was on the same level as she. She is a so-called Pastor in their church. Let’s think about this for a wee moment. Paul says in Ephesians 5:22, “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.” A wife who thinks she is on a higher level than her husband is actually placing herself on a higher level than Jesus Christ. She may deny it but that’s precisely what she is doing. Only a woman who has submitted to Christ is able to be in submission to her husband. It does not mean that the husband should lord it over his wife and treat her like dirt. It simply means that in Christ’s economy of marriage both the husband and wife have been given a specific position that ought to reflect the relationship between Christ and His Bride. Should the Bride place herself on a higher level than her Husband (Bridegroom) chaos follows in the church? And that is precisely why Paul says that women should not be given a position of higher authority (as a Pastor) in the church.
Hi Marilyn,
Allow me to ask you two questions.
1) Do you speak and pray in an unknown language you do not understand?
2) If so, how sure are you that you are not cursing and blaspheming God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit?
You mentioned emotionalism. Indeed, emotionalism and euphoric feelings are not the litmus test for truth. We dare not rely on our feelings, no matter how much we think we are experiencing God’s love. Divine love is based on truth, not on feelings triggered by glossolalia or falling down backward. In fact falling backward is not a sign of blessing but of judgment.
Dear Deborah and Tom
I am Marilyn’s husband, my background is Conservative evangelical and I do not speak in tongues but I entirely endorse her experience which I believe has given her a fruitful and genuine experience of the Living Christ, our Lord and Saviour. We live a life of prayer and biblical study and hope to see Christ’s Glory ever more as we live our lives and are sanctified and glorified in Christ. This is not the first time my wife has been attacked by cessasionists, indeed she has been told that her experience of tongues is satanic and she is hell bound.
I have no problem with cessasionism, although we are both eagerly awaiting any coherent exegesis of the relevant passages, particularly 1 Cor 14:2. Tom has asked her a series of leading questions which are obviously designed to Channel her answers into those which will fit his argument. We are Christian believers who believe that any matter of theology should be determined by an appropriate Exegesis of Gods word, we will not indulge any other form of debate, particularly one that is presuppositional and based on prejudice, about outward displays that on occasions may be excessive or even counterfeit.
If indeed we are Christian brothers and sisters, we should be showing each other both love and respect, we should be ‘bearing fruits in every good work, growing in the Knowledge of God’, we should be showing the Love of Christ to others because He first loved us. Our deepest desire is to grow in the Knowledge of Christ’s Glory until We see Him face to face, something which Paul clearly talks about in 1 Cor, though as a cessasionist you may beg to differ.
Deborah, I urge you to seriously consider the possibility that might just have made a mistake and have ascribed a Gift of the Holy Spirit to Satan himself. As a cessasionist you have no overwhelming biblical remit for your position. Indeed Tom’s series of questions betray a total lack of serious exegesis, it is a work of ‘smoke and mirrors’ and very similar in nature to tactics used by Jehovahs Witnesses I have talked to. Neither of us is going to get in a discussion about being slain in the spirit as you are appear unable to engage in a serious exegesis of scripture. Many blessings from both us, hopefully in Christ.
Dear Tom I didn’t fall backwards!
Marilyn’s husband,
I am sorry to say this but you have a very stange view of love. We are commanded to exhort one another whenever we may see our brothers and sisters in Christ being deceived and led astray.
The attitude you have taken will never convince you that any of our arguments are coherent exegesis. Your preconceived ideas and emotional outbursts will continually prevent you from a true understanding of the dangers involved in the path you have taken. I simply asked your wife wether she speaks in a tongue she does not understand and if not how sure can she be that she is not cursing and blaspheming God. How on earth can that be conceived as channelling her answers into those which will fit my argument when she hasn’t even ventured to answer a single question I have posed thusfar? Please don’t waste our time and gracefully refrain from commenting here again. We wouldn’t want to grant you an opportunity to accuse us of lovelessness when you yourself do not know what true love is? And by the way Proverbs 27:6 is in plain English and not in a language you cannot understand. So, ponder it prayerfully. Like Paul we would like to ask you and your wife,
But then again, there is also this passage in Scripture that reminds us that we are indeed in the last of the last days.
In closure, please don’t bless us hypocritically. If you want to bless us, then at least take heed of our well-intended warnings. (Proverbs 27:6).
And this goes for the rest of those who believe they speak in unknown, so-called heavenly tongues. If you want to persist in your errors and refuse to ask yourself the question whether you may be cursing and blaspheming God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, do so by all means but please don’t accuse us of being loveless. Like Paul, we would like to tell you outright, “Your blood be upon your own heads; we are clean.”
Marilyn,
You didnt fall backwards, but you fell down, didnt you? I won’t be discussing this with you any longer. Your husband has made it clear that we are your enemies who are leading you or channeling you into answers that fit our agenda.
Marilyn,
Deborah did not answer you, I did and my name is Tom. And please don’t tell us you agree totally because you don’t. If you had, you wouldn’t have asked your husband to write that nasty comment.
Marilyn,
Well, then you should have said: “I agree totally that this discussion should end.” Christ Jesus loves us all, that is so, but he hates things that mislead us into error and deception. Want to see what Jesus’s love really looks like?
Marilyn,
Is your husband a New Ager cause he’s the one who used the word channeling and not I. Rebuke him, not me.
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If you are going to be upset with anyone Marilyn, be upset with your husband he said to us ‘Channel’ not Tom…
Marilyn, you could not and would not answer a single one of my or Tom’s questions that we asked you very nicely. It’s clear you are going to hold onto your experience come hell or high water…and because of this, you have now opened the door WIDE for Satan to attack you spiritually who will now do his best to change your belief system entirely and follow after The Christ in all his false love and false glory.
Now I think it’s time you both depart from this website – but remember, you have been told the truth.
Hi Tom
You said
Totally agree, This ‘levels’ in a Christians life business is becoming a big problem, almost every church is adopting this new age teaching. I will never attend a church where a woman is a pastor or head of the church. There is nothing wrong with a woman ministering but to want to be a pastor to have her own church to me is totally totally…one more time…totally wrong. A woman is to sit and silently listen to her Godly pastor’s Godly teaching and learn 🙂
I was once told by a pastor via email that said I was to submit to this specific pastor, be quiet and listen. I told him I will sit in front of a Godly man and listen, learn and be totally content, but no where in the bible am I told that because I am a woman I must now sit and be quiet and listen to false teachers and succumb to their lies that will lead me and others astray just because he is a man. This pastor could not answer me on that one.
The thing is, God never intended for there to be false teachers. God intended that a Godly woman could therefore easily and comfortably submit to a man (be it a genuine Christian pastor or her genuinely Christian husband) because he would be Godly and trustworthy.
But Satan has destroyed the order or all things in this world, black is white, good is evil, evil is good, all men are abusers, women must have power over men, woman must take over the world…and then we have the gender bender spectrum… It’s utter chaos and utterly disgusting.
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Note: You may or may not approve this post, which is okay with me because I have done with Thus Saith The Lord! Because this post is almost 100% false!!!
Hello, Precious People,
This whole posting is totally heartbreaking because this is nothing but Blasphemy. There is no such thing as a “false Holy Spirit!” I am not even sure how someone can even put “false” and “Holy Spirit” in the same sentence. There is only one God, and among the Holy Trinity is God, Our Father, God, The Son, and God, The Holy Spirit. So that means there is only ONE Holy Spirit.
Then this is totally confusing to people and we all know that God is not the author of confusion. And this other word “kundalini ” it has to be totally man-made because this word is in no way in the Bible and is not associated with the Word of God at all. So it seems you all who are against the very true gift and workings on God, The Holy Spirit have been deceived by some man that came up with this concept. You should want God, The Holy Spirit to control your life! He has all the power to lead, guide and teach us how to live a righteous life on this earth for without God, we can do nothing!
The true sadness of this whole confused post/blog is it seems the writer and the followers have not totally experienced the absolute Heavenly blessing of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, so how can you judge what is real and what is false. So pretty much, the way I am taking it when I read all of your posts that are full of blasphemy and false teachings, is that you have been misinformed and just have taken the Word of God and are making very false accusations and you are a non-believer of the ultimate works of our God! I pray you all who have committed this form of blasphemy will repent and ask God for forgiveness for Jesus said in Matthew 12:31, “Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.” And this post and all the other posts that are speaking against it is pure blasphemy because it is denying the existence, the power, and the works of God, the Holy Spirit. You all are giving the devil wayyyyy to much power and this is not right! We ALL have the power and the victory over the devil!
Who are any of you to have the authority or power to tell someone that the God that they are feeling within is false. No Ma’am! Or Sirs! You are speaking falsely against our God and I pray He has mercy on each of you! I can only speak from experience, and refuse to believe that a “human” can and can’t tell me about the true divine and all powerful Spirit of God! But all you are doing by limiting yourself with these unruly false principles, is blocking the true blessings and wonders that God can provide you with in your life. God Bless and I pray for all of your souls! <3
I am not here to sway anyone to my personal and spiritual beliefs of God, but I am not about be held accountable by not saying anything. On my judgement day, I want God to say to me, "Well done, my good and faithful Servant! For you did not deny Me in front of men, so therefore, I won't deny you in front of My Father!" God Bless! Questions are welcomed, for I stand totally against false teachings against my God in Heaven! The devil better watch out for me as I am trouble when it comes to my God!!! I love you all!
Prophetess Samantha Shields.
Had you been a real biblical and Holy Spirit inspired prophet as you seem to be claiming, you would have known the Scriptures and what it says about a false Holy Spirit.
Of course “another spirit” is not the Holy Spirit but the Corinthians believed it to be the Holy Spirit and in so doing they grievously erred.
Allow me to ask you a few questions?
1) How did you receive your gift of prophecy?
2) Were you slain in the spirit?
3) Do you speak in tongues?
4) How many of your prophecies have come true and how many have not?
You wrote:
You can muster all the power you want to against the devil and his angels and it will profit you none unless you have a correct discernment of the things of God. Anything less will lead you into deception, and this, I believe, is where you are headed or are you already headlong there?
Dear “Prophetess” Samantha Shields.
This bible verse is a perfect fit for you and your comment:
1 John 4 Amplified Bible (AMP)
Testing the Spirits
4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit [speaking through a self-proclaimed prophet]; instead test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets and teachers have gone out into the world.
[DELETED by DTW – note: It’s clear you can’t read, the article says False Unholy Spirit – if this is how you read, I can see why you are so terribly confused when it comes to understanding scripture. Why must we experience your false unholy spirit? I don’t need to jump into the fire to know it’s going to burn me. Bible explains quite clearly there are evil spirits masquerading as the Holy Spirit and tells us what to look out for…see article for explanation as to how The Holy Spirit operates.]
[DELETED by DTW – note: Nothing you said stuck a nerve in me, I am just not one bit interested in posting a comment inspired by Satan. Everything is in the article, according to biblical scripture. Your mind has been captured by a false unholy spirit.]
Ok so I can’t stand it I have to say something. You guys are limiting God and his power. We are all introduced and shown the power of the devil early on in life experiencing fear, pain, disease, depression, do you really think that God is someone that won’t show us to feel him and the Holy Spirit? Do you really allow yourselves to limit the power of God and let some demonic counterfeit scare you out of a real love encounter with the Holy Spirit of Jesus. Or a pure joy encounter? Or to speak in real Holy Ghost tongues, even interpret tongues, and supernaturally speak in other tribes tongues? Do you not cast out demons, heal the sick, disciple nations with Gods true power like he instructs you to in mathew 10:8? Do you not believe Jesus when he says in Mathew 11:11 that the least in the kingdom is more powerful than John the Baptist and any other person that’s came before him? That includes mighty prophets and seers including elisha that brought a dead boy back to life or Moses that parted the water? Do you not believe Jesus when he literally told you I’m going on to be with my father and I’m leaving you with something so you will go on to do even greater works than even he did? Am I twisting scripture around to have some kundalini power to heal the sick, raise the dead, is this some kundalini demon that stopped me from killing myself, then when I gave my life to God and spoke in a different language for 3 hours straight?? Was it a kundalini spirit that has caused me to be a Jesus freak and fall head over heels in love with Jesus and actually not even have a desire to lie, to cheat, to even mastorbate anymore, to literally live a New Testament lifestyle and travel the nations spreading the word to Muslims, witch doctors, prostitutes, satanic churches wherever God leads me now? I have to say I feel The presence of God every second of the day in fact I’m balling typing this right now because I know that you haven’t ever felt this and that’s why your typing all this negative stuff about real God encounters people have with my Papa!! I want every one in here that is negative on the “feelings” of the Holy Spirit and God encounters, miracles, healings, to take a deep breath before saying anything else and dive deep in prayer with God and ask him to reveal to you the true gospel and the true reason he died on that cross and was baptized in water and then in fire.. I will tell you what happened to me.. I walked in a church and saw stuff that bothered me.. a shaking like having seizures.. I prayed to God out loud, God if this is kundalini spirit give me the discernment to recognize it and get me out of this mess, but God if this really is you I want more than anyone here has! Nothing happened that night, but the next day I started shaking, then went into a full on vision the most powerful I’ve ever had and I woke up 3 days later feeling the best I had ever felt. Yes that kind of encounter is really God I know for a fact! I know there are counterfeits as long as you ask him to reveal to you the difference he will 😉
Yes the devil has a counterfeit for everything I have even met witch doctors that though demonic power walk on water and heal the sick, but that doesn’t stop me from healing the sick and doing miracles like Jesus told me too.
Ok so i was by the supernatural power of God stopped from
Blowing my head off and I’m alive today becausee Gods power was revealed on this earth.
I have to admit the fire thing bothered me. Until God led me to Africa where he had me delivering demons out of people. I saw so many possessed by devils, many miraculous healing came when they were delivered too like blindness, deafness, paralysis. I saw many had to kept in chains and ropes because they were trying to kill people and eat them. So here is where God revealed to me his true fire. A typical deliverance was taking me soemtimes instant, to sometimes literal a solid hour of then biting at me, beating the crap out of us, one 10 year girl it took 10 of us to hold her down she knocked out a pastor. But one night a pastor called me up prophesied over me, called fire of the Holy Ghost to reign down over me and my ministry. I had already experienced the Holy Spirit many times, but nothing like this. I was so drunk acting and laughing. When he commanded all the evil spirits to reveal theirselves people were manifesting demons all over. I was just laughing and dancing for God, I looked like a looney toon..lol. I felt like David that night. He asked the ushers to bring the people that had demons to me, that night the demons were screaming in their horrible voices and running from me they would have to drag them and bring them back to me. I would simply touch them in this state and the people were instantly delivered. I was laughing at the devil and telling him and the spirits what a joke they were because they were defeated 2000 years ago and I was telling them all to go to the feet of Jesus for their next assignment and they would flip out scream and intstantly leave the people. I saw more deliverances than night than all my life!! My hands were glowing blue. Then Jesus took my hand took me to hell and we floated above it and he showed me the fire there was all orange and
Red and then he showed me his fire which was blue and white and I read later that blue flame is the hottest and that’s why shadrack meshack and ambidigo didn’t burn in the furnace because the fire of God burned hotter and it was all over them :).
Hi Kevin,
There is one sentence in your lengthy response that debunks your views. You wrote:
John the Baptist never performed a single miracle of whatever nature in his entire life and yet Jesus called him the greatest prophet who ever lived. (Matthew 11:11a).
Another sentence in you response shows up your ignorance. You wrote:
You are the one who is disobedient. Jesus commanded his disciples “Go NOT into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” You shouldn’t be in Africa but in Israel, if you want to obey Jesus.
You wrote:
Which of these miracles are greater than what Jesus performed? 1) Heal the sick? 2) Restore the sight of the blind? 3) Raise the dead? Surely, none of them are any greater. There is however a greater work and that is to preach the unadulterated Gospel of Jesus Christ so that people may be saved for eternity and NOT to get drunk or to start laughing at the devil and his demons. Not even Jesus laughed at the devil. You are playing with fire.
You say you fell head o\ver heels in love with Jesus. I urge you to make very sure that this Jesus you fell in love with is the genuine one of the Bible and not a counterfeit.
Dear Kevin
I see that not once in your comment did you have remorse and repent of your sins, in fact you sinned when you said “God if this is kundalini spirit give me the discernment to recognize it and get me out of this mess, but God if this really is you I want more than anyone here has”
This is called greed.
1 John 2:16 “For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.”
THE BLUE FLAME OF THE LORD = DIVINE REVELATION, PASSIONATE LOVE, AND THE ESSENCE OF HEAVEN
The blue fire is in fact widely known in the occult and and the New Apostolic Reformation which is part of the New World Religion and it’s False Christ. Please see article: Patricia King and the Blue Flame of the Cosmic Christ:
Sorry to say dear Kevin but you have fallen in love with the False Christ. The reason he is called the False Christ is because he imitates Jesus Christ in a counterfeit manner. He comes as an angel of light and presents you with a love that most people can’t refuse – the feeling is literally ‘out of this world’. You said “and fall head over heels in love with Jesus and actually not even have a desire to lie, to cheat, to even mastorbate anymore, to literally live a New Testament lifestyle” The desire to do these things were just removed from you without metanoia? What is Metanoia?
G3341 μετάνοια metanoia (me-ta’-noi-a) n.
1. (subjectively) remorse and repentance for wrong doing, including as necessary, restitution.
2. (by implication) a change (reversal) of one’s mind (or the reversal of another person’s decision).
KJV: repentance
root word: Root(s): G3340
G3340 μετανοέω metanoeo (me-ta-no-e’-ō) v.
1. to have a change of mind and heart, i.e. to reconsider and relent.
2. (morally) to have remorse and repent.
Wow, does’t that strike a single cord in your soul that what has happened to you does not sound right?
You said “but the next day I started shaking, then went into a full on vision the most powerful I’ve ever had and I woke up 3 days”
You lay in a trance for 3 days. Please show us from the bible where this happened to anyone? Actually please show us in the bible where anyone started ‘shaking’ or ‘convulsing’ in the bible? Please read this article regarding the false Tree of Life and what following it and it’s False Christ gives you: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/12/21/tree-of-life-meditation-vs-prayer/
PS, you speak about raising people from the dead, tell me have you got an proof of this? Or are we supposed to just take your word for it? Why are these miraculous miracles and the people who were raised from the dead hidden from sight? To make sure no one can ever ‘test the spirits to see if they are true’?
1 John 4:1 “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”
Kundalini and Holy Spirit are one and the same thing…. There is ONE God.
Still surprises me how many Christians still dont even know their own history..
Knowing history cannot save you. Are you saved?
Gareth wrote:
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See that now folks, now you how these witches and warlocks , Dark Side, are out in the open in your face finally exposing themselves they are infiltrating Christianity with Hinduism/satanism by uniting and mashing up the two into the same thing. Ecumenical Church system to usher in the Satanic FALSE Christ, the Beast-personified “Christ”.
Hi my. Name is Luciano ! Before ever stepping into a church I received the the baptism of the holy spiri. A week after I received Jesus through a Facebook message . As my walk went I was on fire for the lord . I was on fire to live a righteous and holy life and please my Heavenly Father .i also got the vibrations throughout my body which they intensified whenever I would see Jesus do a miracle on YouTube or something . Now one night I started questioning if this was from god and I was so convinced that it wasn’t that I told god to remove this “evil” spirit from me . Well guess what he did. Iam no longer on fire for the lord . I don’t have the fear of the lord . I feel dry inside of me . What was before a cup flowing with water is now dry . I feel that I blasphemy the Holy Spirit . Burn god will judge as he will look into my heart that night and see the confusion I was in afternoon stumbling into this website . But let me ask you something . What if your wrong ? What if god does walk with us in a supernatural way ? What if like me you accidentally lead people always from god and not closer ? The last thing I want to do is condemn because I believe your intentions are pure. But what’s if your wrong and this signs do manifest to born again ? Anyone care to talk reach out to me [email removed]
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From: Luciano
Sent: Sunday, 14 January 2018 3:05 AM
Hello so my name is Luciano . And I need to speak to someone . I had this vibrations throughout my body and it scared me . So I found your website and did what you instructed in the deliverance . Now it’s safe to say that I don’t experience the electricity . But I don’t have the love that I did at first either and it worrys me . What if commuted the unforgivable sin ?? I need to talk to someone and I neeed to know why you are so certain that it wasn’t the Holy Spirit but some counterfeit .
Please
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Dear Luciano
I’m going to show you what has happened to you.
You said “A week after I received Jesus through a Facebook message”
You didn’t receive Jesus Christ through a Facebook message, you received a demonic spirit through a Facebook message. To receive Jesus Christ you must first off know that you are a sinner, and in need of a savior. “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9) Through repentance of your sin there must be an absolutely willingness on your part to want to change your ways and most importantly thereafter you must…believe the gospel.”
God does not come to you and say, “hey Luciano, do you want supernatural powers? Then believe in me, and I will baptize you in the ‘holy spirit’, and you will be on FIRE for me, and because of this FIRE you will want to serve me night and day”. No no no. The Bible says, YOU must acknowledge you are a sinner, YOU must want to change your way, YOU must want to follow God’s commandments (what the bible says) without any outside influence. God will baptize you with the Holy Spirit, not for you to now be forcefully made to serve Him (via this FIRE).”
You were baptized by a false spirit that made you feel like you were on fire and want to do ‘good’ and follow a false Christ, you then became concerned this spirit was not the Holy Spirit. This was actually the REAL Holy Spirit warning you that what you had in you was of the devil. You prayed to God and asked Him to remove this evil spirit, and He did. Praise the Lord for that, many people are fighting for their eternal salvation right now and are struggling for this demon to flee. But now you complain… Now you are back to your old self. The REAL you. The bible says “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9). This is who YOU ARE Luciano, you have no desire to serve God, you have no fear of God nor or do you actually want to follow His commandments. This is the truth of the matter.
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God has delivered from this satanic spirit that vibrates. You are sitting in this position right now where:
(Luke 11:24-26)
24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walks through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he said, I will return to my house from where I came out.
25 And when he comes, he finds it swept and garnished.
26 Then goes he, and takes to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
You now have a decision to make Luciano, you either really want to serve God and stop sinning and change your ways – you get genuinely born again and have the real Holy Spirit come and abide in you, the one who convicts you when you sin, that you come to repentance before Jesus Christ the Son of God. There are no signs and wonders that accompany the genuine Holy Spirit, except that your mind is supernaturally illuminated regarding the scriptures and you really understand what is being said in the gospel, not the false version you have been sucked into believing which includes a false unholy spirit, that makes you feel like you are on fire and vibrates, gives you visions, dreams, speaking in tongues. Do you speak in tongues?
Here is your test, we are going to test this spirit (1 John 4:1-6) that you have been delivered from: show me 1 verse in the bible where the Holy Spirit vibrates?
If this was the Holy Spirit in your life and you asked God to remove it and He ‘supposedly’ did…it goes against scripture:
When you are born again this happens:
Ephesians 1:13 “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise”
2 Corinthians 1:22 “Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.”
He will not remove His Holy Spirit because once you are saved you are in Him and He is in you.
Galatians 2:20 “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.”
He will not remove His spirit because you can’t be saved twice. Can you lose your salvation once you are born again? No.
Hebrews 6:4-6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Will God remove a false spirit? Absolutely! Because you asked Him too.