Chuck Missler and Roger Oakland Exposed
Chuck Missler and Roger Oakland Exposed: Do Not be Unequally Yoked Together with Unbelievers
It is with a very heavy heart that I re-post this article because there is a man who I looked up to that I am now going to expose – Roger Oakland.
I had previously done an article on Chuck Missler here: Dr. Chuck Missler, SWANsat and the Auricâ„¢ Currency and one on his Wife, Nancy Missler here: Nancy Missler and Henrietta Mears but the time has come to expose Roger Oakland. Unfortunately Roger Oakland is in the middle of all this. I dunno how he got there, only he knows why he is associating with such a man as Chuck Missler and Ron Matsen.
The Bible is very clear on the matter on who you associate with.
2 Corinthians 6:14 “14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?”
UPDATED 12/5/2016 – Please read article at the very end of this article regarding William P Welty, Chuck Missler, Ron Matsen and a SHOCKING new book released in May 2016 about Mary the mother of God – the Queen of Heaven.
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Source of article: ephesians511blog.blogspot.com
Please read here from more on Roger Oakland: ephesians511blog.blogspot.com/2012/01/roger-oakland-enigma-revealed-in-these.html“> Roger Oakland, an enigma revealed in these last days
Proof that Roger Oakland was contacted numerous times about Chuck Missler MONTHS before the article went live on the internet – ephesians511blog.blogspot.com/2012/01/response-to-comments-on-galatians-4.html
Response to comments on Galatians 4 blog [Warning: If you decide to go to GalationsFour blog from ephesians511blog please use discernment when entering GalationsFour website, they are vehemently anti Pre-Trib which means they hold to the Roman Catholic Post-Trib.] ephesians511blog.blogspot.com/2012/01/response-to-comments-on-galatians-4.html
UPDATED: A couple of years later Roger Oakland is STILL sharing a stage with Chuck Missler: Roger – A Fraud Perpetrated Upon Believers
NEW!! UPDATED: 5/12/2016 – Please read this SHOCKING news about William P Welty, Chuck Missler, Ron Matsen and a new book released in May 2016 about Mary the mother of God: William Welty and Koinonia House – the Adoration of Mary book.
Deb…EXCELLENT WORK!! BUT know that I share your heavy heart related to Roger Oakland. It’s like a death everytime I discover another false “thing/person” God used Roger’s book “Faith Undone” in my life 2 years ago to open my eyes to the Rick Warren deception that I had been swept into in my former church. However, I didn’t just trust that he was telling me the truth about what he was writing – I decided to check into the information I was reading on my own, and found him to be “trustworthy”, along with Lighthouse Trails who carries a lot of his articles – finding them to also have been a good source of information “warning” the people of God of all (?) things false. Not so! What these “ministers of righteousness” and “authors” want is to be our “source” – to be “relied on” by us. As “trustworthy sources” (?) they position themselves to “lead”…but where?
What they don’t count on, is the reader (like I, and others) who asks God to reveal all other lies and deception that I had believed. Then, God through his Holy Spirit is able to “guide you into all truth” (Jn 16:13). No longer dependent on the “discernment ministries” (although reading them), I became a googling fool, researching into every “teacher”, “preacher”, “author”, etc. who I had allowed to influence my spiritual walk. Although Chuck Missler was not one of those people, I had researched him because of a friend’s involvement. Since Roger had been exposing Calvary Chapel and the rotten roots and fruits, along with Lighthouse Trails, I sent what I had come across to Roger and William Saunders (author of Ephesians 511 blog and ex-researcher for Roger) in Oct., thinking it was something they would be interested in. Roger responded that it wasn’t something he was going to handle at that time. And we know what William did…his own research and expose’. And since the Misssler expose’ was first run in Nov., Roger has remained WILENT. I had also contacted “Deborah” from Lighthouse Trails, sending her the link to William’s story and letting her know I was looking forward to her coverage…SILENCE. I had read the Jan. Lighthouse Trails Newsletter containing the 2011 year in review – concerning Chuck – nothing. But, also reported was future project with Roger Oakland! Books on apologetics!
(continued)…so I wrote the following letter to “Deborah” Dombrowski at Lighthouse Trails on Jan 2…
Email to Light House Trails:
“Deborah…I wrote you some time ago when the Eph511 story broke with Chuck Missler…I had mentioned to you that time would tell whether you all were included with those whose silence was deafening on the matter…I had hoped you really were one of the “good guys”…to share a quote I lifted from your 7-11-11 article…(on the Jesuits, no less)…
‘Discerning Christians should be asking many questions. But one question that stands out foremost is: why are so few saying anything about the Jesuit Agenda? do they see it but are afraid to speak? Or do they see it and are part of it? Speaking of questions, Jesus asked one: “(W)hen the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?” (Luke 18:8). Will He find it in the pastors and theological professors? Will He find it in yhour own church? Or will He only find those who have remained silent?’
There it is…too bad for you…you have made yourself known! Your “discernment:” and “ministry” would be laughable, if the consequences were not eternally devastating!
Marion”
On Jan. 5 I received the following response from “Deborah” from Lighthouse Trails:
“Shame on you for having anything to do with such shoddy “research.” We will take no part in such ungodly work but will continue to strive to be led by te Holy Spirit and not by the vindictive threats of men like Bill Saunders. The word is getting out about him, and God WILL deal with him. Please do not write to us again.”
There it is…shoddy research…REALLY?? The research is well-documented. Check for yourself. I personally checked every link on this and every story, and beyond. I have seen the websites (some have been changed, and the Galactic Roundtable totally dismantled – the day after William Saunder’s story first broke…the site that showed “Christian” William Welty is really a New Ager…hmmm)
Perhaps, one might consider my email to “Deborah” at LHT strong…but quite honestly, along with the pain of realizing that people are not the trustworthy “brethren” or “ministries” you thought they were, finally comes an anger over the hypocrisy these sites display – their continued vociferous “outrage” over other “discernment” ministries and “church leaders” who remain SILENT…while they are playing that same game! I say…SHAME ON THEM…and then, after all, isn’t that the tactic “they” have taught us the enemy uses to SILENCE those who would tell the truth…SLANDER! and what I believe is a threat toward William Saunders. Who is he? What is his gain? He is simply another blogger who has told this truth.
So, what is the bottom line? Jesus said “If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed: And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (Jn 8:31-32) God alone has given us truth…we need to know it, it can be found in our King James Bibles…we need to know our God…he gives to us freely…his word gives eternal life. The words of men lead also…where? Astray? As sheep to the slaughter? When men seek to lead – we need to find out who they are…there are many liars and hirelings. They know the truth, and have remained SILENT while the wolves are in the sheephold. One would have to ask what kind of a watchman is that? and who are these people? There is only one Good Shepherd, and perhaps many good under-shepherds…
Jesus said “I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. But he that is a hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is a hireling, and careth not for the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.” (Jn 10:11-14)
As the liars and wolves in sheep’s clothing amongst us are exposed…read it and weep…watch and pray…be wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Share the Gospel, warn the brethren (read 2 Tim. 2:24-26)… Live for our Lord and Savious, Jesus Christ!
“God have mercy on you!
Marion”
One thing I used in my post that Ephesians511 did not was the connection that Roger Oakland shares to Sowing Circle. Sowing Circle is a ministry of Chuck Missler’s. Sowing Circle is the vehicle that Chuck Missler used to create Blue Letter Bible. When you are in BLB store you can see where your contributions go; in that link you can find a couple of Roger Oakland’s ministries, including UTT (Understand the Times International) and his ministries in Asia. I have screen shots of those on my article: A Time To Speak, for anyone wanting to get that information as well.
Is it just me or is this age not rendering well at all in Firefox 8.x?
It is pretty much unreadable for me.
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Nope I am having the same problem, I see there is a v 9 out and my WordPress is telling me to update my Firefox to 9.
Unfortunately the article is made up of ‘pictures’ 790 pix wide. Maybe adjust your resolution.
u mean … there are better than D.O.S. 3.1?
This Blog author posted a documented response to Nick V comments on the Galatians 4 Blog website –
http://ephesians511blog.blogspot.com/2012/01/response-to-comments-on-galatians-4.html
Warning: If you decide to go to GalationsFour blog from Ephesians511blog please use discernment when entering GalationsFour website, they are vehemently anti Pre-Trib which means they hold to the Roman Catholic Post-Trib.
I am so grateful for to all the beautiful people who write on these pages.
Thank you Debs for your wonderful dedication. God bless
A little lighthearted “aside”…
These randomly assigned icons/avatars are killin’ me! They’re FUNNY!!
You got Aliki up there sayin’ she’s so grateful, right next to an icon with an “irked” expression!
I found myself laughing at the disparity between people’s remarks and the icons they’s been paired with. Seriously funny.
Chuckle! (sorry). “They’s” been? “THEY’S” been? Now I’m laughin’ at myself!– Could I sound more ridiculous?
Now, on a somber note (although it did feel good to laugh!), this recent development, or discovery, about Roger’s connection to(and Deborah/LHT’s failure to expose) Chuck Missler has hit me hard as well. I almost don’t know what planet I’m on, things have gotten that weird.
I just wanted to express my great sadness as well. This has been a difficult discovery for all of us.
Reaching4Truth
LOL, I wish I could do something about these little icons, but they come standard with the blog and everyone automatically get’s a DEFAULT one set to them based on their email address. The only way to change it is to go to http://www.gravatar.com where you can upload your own picture using the same email address and this this one will change to the one you uploaded.
But I too laugh someone times at the icons, and think to myself, “boy this person must hate me for giving them such an ugly picture” hahaha.
Reaching4Truth
To be honest I have know about this link between Chuck Missler and Roger for over a year now, but I only had one little link to go by. When I showed it to someone, they told me that it must be an old piece of info and that surely Roger was no longer part of K-House Europe. I then left it, because I didn’t want to believe that Roger Oakland was an infiltrator into the true Church of Jesus. His mission was to expose one thing on the one hand but on the other hand bring in false teaching (with Chuck Missler).
So when I came across Williams article, reading it was like reading ‘old news’ except he expounded on areas that I had no idea about. I then posted the article and then received an email from someone asking me to take down the article. I listened to that person and took down the article. But then I went and prayed about it and started doing my own research and the more I prayed and the more I looked at the problem at hand, the more I realised I should put the article back up again.
Roger has posted an article on LHT http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=8280 on the 8th Jan stating how NON-ECUMENICAL he is – The problem is the article does not address the current problem at hand, him and Chuck Missler – he avoids it all together. Does he think writing an article about how anti-Babylon he is all the while playing “snakes and ladders” with Chuck Missler is going to make his problems go away?
No Roger, you can’t hide from this one.
Deborah – forgive me in advance for rambling; I have a lot on my mind:) What is really revealing here, aside from all the information, is this…Roger had the information about Chuck Missler in Oct., Lighthouse Trails had seen William Saunder’s article in November. In light of their “discernment” and “ministries”…there is only one question…
WHY ARE THEY SILENT ABOUT CHUCK MISSLER, AND CONTINUE TO BE?
which leads to another question…
WHO ARE THEY, AND WHAT ARE THEY REALLY DOING?
BTW…these are not the only “ministries” I contacted, sending William Saunder’s blog to them because it was apparent that Chuck Missler was a REALLY big wolf…thinking, that of course, they would want to get this out there. You see all these that I mention, I had received lots of information from and they had been a help to me in learning “the truth” about many things, but I don’t “follow” them. (I did however, trust Roger and Lighthouse Trails, because I read their stuff, and then checked it myself to verify. In my mind, they “were” “trustworthy”) Surely, in return, I could be a help to them, cause we’re on the same “team”…right?…not
Who else exposes the ecumenical movement, the Catholic Church, the “evils of Popery”, the Jesuit Agenda? (and don’t get me wrong, we do need to know and be aware of these things)
Some of those “ministries” are Chris Pinto and Brannon Howse…I had sent them the link to William Saunder’s article on Chuck Missler in November. I had just finished listening to a discussion between Chris and Brannon about the very things listed above. SURELY, they would be interested!? This was big news!
Chris’ response had to do with seeing “guilt by association” rather than “guilt by cooperation”. However, as more info came out showing that “cooperation”, I passed it on to Chris – his answer… SILENCE.
But, then again, Chris does conferences with Chuck (see Future Congress).
Brannon Howse’s response…SILENCE.
Eric Barger…SILENCE.
SILENCE is an answer…they all go back to doing what they’ve been doing – exposing – but only so much. To what end? They become the “trusted” “truth-tellers”, teachers, and gather themselves a “sheeple” to lead…WHERE? If you do your own research – you will figure it out!
So much for folks who want to tell Christians what their “Christian worldview” ought to be! Who are they…really…do we know? Is their agenda pure? The Bible says, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.” (Jer. 17:9-10)
I stopped contacting ministries…no one wanted to hear..they weren’t interested in exposing all things. I made one last ditch effort…it was to you Deborah because I had read your earlier work related to Missler…a BIG thank you for looking at William’s blog and dealing with it (I’d love to know who asked you to take it down???????) Anyway…
Christians don’t need to be “taught” (indoctrinated into) a “worldview” (it’s big business, you know).
” But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways, by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through COVETOUSNESS shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you; whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.” (2 Peter 2:1
Remember those scriptures that talk about those who would name the name of Christ, but are not known of him?
These “ministries” even while telling us that “certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ” (Jude 4) THEY, THEMSELVES ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE CREPT IN!
They will argue they haven’t denied the Lord (probably with indignation) but in their SILENCE they have…covering for Chuck Missler – they have – what does Chuck Missler teach? If you don’t know, go to amazon.com…find the book “Learn the Bible in 24 Hours” (REALLY?)…anyway..click on the “look inside” icon, and scroll through and read the sample pages…isn’t this “another jesus”?…yes…the New Age “jesus”.
That is how we have become deceived…when we “heap to” ourselves “teachers” (and books, seminars, etc). And just a reminder: while the focus on this particular article is basically Calvary Chapel, these deceptions are happening across the board in all denominations and non and around the world. In many cases, even more so damaging because it is more subtle and difficult to find…but it can be done – it takes work!
We have Bibles (KJV)…that is where the mind of the Lord is revealed to those of us who HAVE the mind of Christ (1 Cor. 2:16)! We need to read it, believe it, obey it. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Tim 3:16-17)
God refers to the Word of God, as meat, bread, milk, honey, living water. We need to feast on the Word of God, not words of men/women.
“As newborn babes, DESIRE the SINCERE milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby; If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.” (1 Peter 2:2-3) (emphasis mine)
May we say with Jeremiah: “Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.” (Jer. 15:16)
Hoh man! Excellent, Marion! It just blessed me on several levels, to read your response here, even with the sadness that accompanies the subject of these ministries and what we’re learning of them… I think God has given you great clarity. And the scriptures you presented were wonderful. Thank you. You have blessed us all.
Yes, Marion, SILENCE is often deafening as appears to be the case here. One wonders WHY and since there is no explanation forthcoming all we are left with is questions.
Oh Deborah – please no, no, no not Rodger. I have not read your article yet but will print it out and study it. I am besides myself, if things go on like this who will be exposed next? I came out of so much rubbish myself that I walk on egg shells. None of us are safe!!!!
Regards
Bev, this is shocking to be sure and at first I didn’t want to believe it, but the evidence is overwhelming and all the dots connect.
Beverley – “For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. (Rom. 15:4)
“Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.
For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.
Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.
Delight thyself also in the Lord; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.
Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.
Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be; yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.
Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken.
A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.
For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.
The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.
They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.
For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.
The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.
Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.
I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
He is ever merciful, and lendeth; and his seed is blessed.
Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
The wicked watcheth the righteous and seeketh to slay him.
The LORD will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged.
Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.
I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green bay tree.
Yet he passed away, and lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found.
Mark the perfect, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.
But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble.
And the LORD shall help them and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.” Psalm 37 KJV
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. I and my Father are one.” (John 10:27-30) KJV
This is our “safe” place!
Galatians 5 13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. 14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
I am disappointed how the discernment ministries have done this very thing and turned on one another, biting and devouring on another.
One thing I have learned, some are moving farther away from God’s truth and some are moving closer to line up with God’s truth, but no one but Jesus Christ has God’s perfect understanding of God’s truth. We must all strive to line up our hearts and minds with God’s truth and quit chasing after the doctrines of men and trying to “fix” them. Pray for them to receive God’s counsel as revealed in the Scripture.
Philippians 4:Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
And again I say…. THINK ON THESE THINGS! I must keep reminding myself of this as I too get caught up focusing on the doctrines of men.
Mercy for them and mercy for me.
By His Grace,
Valerie
This is shocking if it is true. I will see what other information I can get. I know of many other sound churches breaking up as well as individuals being sidetracked bt the evil one. It seems as if the birth pangs in this regard is extremely intense righ now. We need to keep watch. Not just out there but within ourselves as well.
Valerie
>> I am disappointed how the discernment ministries have done this very thing and turned on one another
Where exactly has this happened? I have exposed Roger Oakland. No one else but Roger Oakland. If others want to defend Roger Oakland that is their business not mine.
OK I am confused … why does Rodger not just denounce Chuck Missler? Surley this is going to affect his ministry in more ways than one? Is it money? Does Rodger get a fee for being involved with this ‘Koinonia House’etc?
Valerie I am very thankful that someone tried to ‘fix me’. I was being devoured, missled, stolen from, cheated, the list is endless. I was probably going straight to hell as well. I pray for those in the discernment ministries I am sure many try their best. It is also a very scarey, sad and hurtful ministry, no one likes to turn on another person or ministry. I just thank God for them.
Valerie, “turned on one another”? Please explain where you are coming from. If you mean exposing error as turning on someone, you are mistaken. The One we need to be sure we do NOT turn on is the LORD GOD. Error should be exposed whereever it is found as God is no respector of persons. His truth is paramount and that should ALWAYS be our focus.
Beverley
>> why does Rodger not just denounce Chuck Missler?
Time will tell. Time will tell if he is for Chuck or against Chuck. Time will tell if money is more important than the TRUTH (Jesus Christ).
>> Valerie I am very thankful that someone tried to ‘fix me’. I was being devoured, missled, stolen from, cheated, the list is endless. I was probably going straight to hell as well. I pray for those in the discernment ministries I am sure many try their best. It is also a very scarey, sad and hurtful ministry, no one likes to turn on another person or ministry. I just thank God for them.
Well said Beverly.
Polly
Spot on!
The Bible in Psalms 146 vs 3 has the conclusion to this mess- ‘Put not your trust in princes, Nor in the son of man in whom there is no help‘.
Am sorry, Deborah for being offline. Nigeria got shut down for a week over the issue of fuel subsidy(a con game perpetrated to impoverish the nation. Just back to work!
Hi Kate
Good to have you back. As a side note, yes I see there is going to be huge issues up there in the north regarding petrol and gas. We here have other areas in which they are trying to impoverish the nation – like a huge highway with a tolling system that will force people to pay exorbitant fees just to drive to get to work and back. No one can afford to pay. And then the price of food will go up and everything else, because of the toll system. Of course it’s also a way for them to ‘lock down’ the city – for crime fighting purposes they tell you, nonsense – it’s a NWO purpose. bla bla bla nightmare of note.
Bev, if you look into how deeply Roger is entrenched into Missler and K-House, it is clear that he has painted himself into a corner as this association in one form or another has been going on for quite some time. They share a board member for one thing. Whether this is a trap he fell into and now doesn’t know how to extract himself, or if it was deliberate covert activity, only the Lord knows.
Whatever, it has been exposed and it remains to be seen what will happen from here. There is one thing for certain, it has been a devastating revelation for those who trusted UTT.
It behooves each of us to be vigilant and to test ALL spirits no matter how “kosher” they appear. We are living in a time when discernment is dead and deception has a free reign.
[deleted] Daniel – I told you before that I am not allowing you to comment on my website – you poke fingers at pre-trib but your knowledge of bible prophecy is twisted and I will not have you spewing your nonsense over my blog.
Latest update on the Missler expose’ can be found here:
The Fear Of Chuck Missler-
asks some very good questions…of the “discernment ministries”