SHOCKING!! – Kobus van Rensburg’s son preaching while DRUNK at service – 20 Nov 2011
By 73Believer from Youtube
Prophet Kobus van Rensburg’s own son, Kobus van Rensburg jnr. had the audacity to arrive at church one day; drunk.
The kid definitely has problems being drunk, knowing that he he had to preach that day. Here’s some advice, why don’t you ask your father to “heal” you from your alcoholism?
In the video, Kobus van Rensburg jnr. admits to being drunk, speaks about the benefits of being drunk and mentions a drinking bar located in the church.
You can hear the church people laughing at him (or with him) because he is drunk.
Listen how Kobus van Rensburg jnr speaks about the Holy Spirit in his drunken state…
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHO1W71IORk]
Here is what the Bible has to say about Kobus jnr.
1 Corinthians 6 9-10 KJV: “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”
And here’s a verse that proves that “Prophet” Kobus van Rensburg is just another false prophet.
1 Timothy 3 4-5 KJV: “One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?
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Eph_5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; KJV
Get real guys. I was in church when Kobus Jnr were “Drunk” Funny how after your 10 minite clip he preached for more than an hour and was sober three mins after your ten minite clip. Start studying the bible and stop clinging to your own believes. There is 53 more scriptures that prooves drunk in the spirrit… geus its time to dust of your bibles and use them.(Dont tell me there is noScripture) Learn Greek and Hebrew first. Todays bibles are so twisted… If you have a KING JAMES you have the closest to the real thing you’ll get. Be Blessed guys
James
James Potgieter wrote:
The Word of God say’s that we must TEST the Spirits. (1 Joh4:1)
James, Let us then test the “spirit” in that which you wrote and see if it matches up to the Word of God.
You say that you are “proud” about Kobus and Analise… 2 Problems in that sentence nl. 1. God resists the proud and 2. You are Proud of a Mans achievement.
You do not give any Glory to God.
You then continue to declare:
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Problem: You are honoring a man and not God.
You then end the sentence in a very “prideful spirit” :
With this statement, you are elevating yourself above other people.
The Bible says’ that we must be humble servants not boastful and arrogant…
Jas 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.
Jesus also said that “By their fruit you will know them” right ? (Mat 7:16)
James, if you are then a follower of the Ministry of Kobus and PRIDE, as displayed by your statement above, is then the FRUIT of Kobus and Annalise’s ministry then they are not ministers in God’s service under the guidance of His Spirit.
Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but the corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
James, the Word of God also say: “The Pride in your heart has deceived thee…” (Obad 1:3)
Anibrand
>> There is 53 more scriptures that prooves drunk in the spirrit
No there is not and I would call you a liar for saying so but instead I will let you go and find these 53 scriptures to prove your point. *Waiting*
Anibrand
… in the line too, waiting.
We are going to be awaiting a loooonggggg timeee…but we shall wait never the less 😉
Anibrand
I study Hebrew and Greek.
I also have a friend in Israel who’s home languages are Hebrew and Greek. He has a Greek Father and a Jewish Mother.. He is born again, Spirit filled and do understand scripture in it’s rightful context. He reads the Bible in Aramaic/Hebrew and Greek.
We would be very interested to see the “scriptures” that you will produce to “validate” your statements.
PLEASE provide us with the scriptures. By not proving your point you would be found an unreliable witness.
Anibrand,
I don’t know why you are referring to Eph 5:18 to back-up your folly, it has nothing to do with the lie you believe.
Even if you read a corrupt version like The Message, one cannot deduct from Scriptures what you apparently have. As a bonus, stating that the KJV is the closest to the truth is debatable, and if it was, then surely you have failed to understand its contents, as your views are far from the truth, God’s truth.
The above mentioned passage urges us to be continually filled with the Spirit – that is, controlled by the Spirit. The better way is to allow the Holy Spirit to have control, similar to the way that alcohol may control a person’s thoughts and actions. This does not mean charasmania witchcraft.
The true elixir of life and the false. Paul warns against intoxicants that give momentary natural exhilaration and often lead to excess, 18a, which he contrasts with the true stimulant of God, the Holy Spirit. The injunction is to be continually filled with Him (completely submitted to His presence and control), instead of wine.
The results of being Spirit-filled. These are productive of the greatest good, and involve a life overflowing with joyful song and praise to the Lord, and a thankful spirit, the result of clear appreciation for all God’s blessings given to us in Christ’s redemption, 20 (Ps 34:1; Phil 4:6).
Whatever bible version you use, you still cannot conclude the heresies you did! Please explain?
Hallo Debs, I am also waiting.
Earlier I had a visit from one of Kobus v Rensburg’s followers and when I asked the same question I got no reply.
I was invited to a gathering that was addressed by Kobus many years ago by this person. While waiting for proceedings to start I became aware of evil spirits around the hall and remarked on it.
The first thing that Kobus did when he appeared was to ask the evil spirits to depart. If that was’nt enough, I was targetted And even had a tape recording of a “sermon” thrown at me. Did try to listen but could’nt. Many, many words with the odd sentence that was understanable.
The one thing that I remember was the loud repetitive trancelike music.
Ofcourse I was condemned this morning as I was then.
Blessing on your great work
Aliki
My word, that is unbelievable. Well don’t worry your little self about Kobus, we here at DTW know he is a fully fledged bonafied FALSE PROPHET and FALSE TEACHER and we shall continue to point this out and warn as many people as we can to stay away from him. The Word of God is clear when it comes to men like Kobus van Rensburg:
This shows the seriousness of the issue of false teachers and those who would corrupt the truth of God and delude the people of God.
Matthew 23:13. “But woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shake off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.”
and Matthew 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Paul writes to Titus to tell him he has to deal with the false teachers present in the church at Crete.
Look at verse Titus1:10, “For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers, and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision…”
In New Testament time the particular problem that the apostles faced was those who came out of the Jewish background, who professed to believe in Jesus Christ, but created an unbiblical mix of the Mosaic Law and the message of our Lord Jesus Christ. It corrupted the gospel and confused people. Paul then tells Titus in verse 11 Titus:10:11, “..who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families”.
Verse 16 says Titus 10:16 “They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed.”
I greet all of u in da name of my lord jesus christ of nazareth whom paul preaches who wasa cricified unto the worls and the world unto him the bible says if u rebuke sum1 rebuke him with love and don’t rebuke an elderly but I have to ask how dare all of u pass judgement on minister van rensburg for something his son did yes maybe he spoke to his son about it bt remember GOD gave us a free will it was his sons decision to drink nt prophet kobus does not jesus himself say whoever is without sin let him cast the first stone I’m sure all of u forgot what prophet kobus does his a minister of GOD and the bible says touch not my annointed once and do my PROPHETS no harm if I were u I’d repent if anyone of u says I am wrong plz mail me @ [email removed]
oh funy funy funy. you peeps sure have lots of time to waste on this. Man some of us have to work for a living. Will post the scripture tonight. Just have to say there is no point in doing so because you oaks will always find a way to go around… Stop judging dudes. And start to live. Dont try to be God. Rather let God be God cause i believe he is best at it. Realy people. what do you want to achive? Proove to the world that He preached while drunk???? and then what then????? you gonna tell the world your secrets? no because you are all hypocrites. You all make the word off God of no Effect. Dammit people for once just accept that it is not about you and what you believe. Its about God. I bet none of you have the balls to be on a cross…dying for the world… so why would you then try to be clever??? leave that part to God. I salute Kobus van Rensburg and his family. The are the first Christians i ever met that are true… not judging… ag man the list can go on for hours….days…. years…. i geus its time you all back off and get something else to write about… Maybe your affair with your wife’s sister or the fact that you all are just stupid sinners. and stop putting your self on a pedestal. Id just say you all are not much of backbone Malakis Mene. Realy stop being so stupid and open your eyes and focus on the cross and what happend there. And please delete my post from ur page caus i dont like asosiating with people like you.Bless you kobus and followers.
Panagoitis aka Anibrand (Why you had to change names is beyond me, did you think I would not notice? Is there ever a time when you don’t lie?)
Thanks for responding to my email to come and reply. We were waiting patiently for your to answer us with scripture. But it would appear instead of showing us that you were in deed telling the truth, that there are indeed 53 scriptures on being drunk in the spirit in the Bible, you have shown yourself to be a liar, just like your Prohet Kobus van Rensburg.
There is no such thing as being drunk in the spirit, and there is NO account of this ever happening in the bible. So what happened to Kobus Jr is one of 2 things 1) He was taken over by a demonic spirit 2) He was in fact really drunk on alcohol.
You need to wake up Anibrand. Calling us names (because you could not answer our questions, after you stated some so called biblical facts first (which was not true)) is not going to solve your problem that you are being lied to by the van Rensburgs.
I pray your eyes are opened the truth before it’s too late.
PS and I don’t know if you have noticed but you are blaspheming Jesus name when you write comments, by saying ‘geus’. It’s a shortened slang version of Jesus. Has the Holy Spirit ever convicted you of this?
You know you would think that all Kobus’ congregants would know their bible so well, but they don’t, they know nothing, because Kobus spoon feeds then his own brand of gospel that is false – So when his followers are asked simple biblical truths they can’t answer, what they are good at is name calling, threatening and Zigheiling their prophet.
tyron
>> and the bible says touch not my annointed once and do my PROPHETS no harm
(If I had R1 for every time someone said this to me I would be a millionaire)
Your so called anointed are touched in more ways than one. You do not know the gospel truth so you can’t tell the difference between a genuine man of God vs a false man (Kobus van Rensburg).
And don’t come and twist scripture with regards to casting the first stone – that was for a completely different situation than this. And what’s this about ‘not rebuking the elderly?’ um… at what age does that apply? 40? 35? Cos I think I am old. So maybe you should stop rebuking me!!! I am an an elderly… what a joke. Never heard such nonsense before in all my life.
If this is the way you read your bible and decipher scripture no wonder you are in the clutches of Kobus van Rensburg. You know the scariest thing is this, UNBELIEVERS can tell from a mile away that he is a CROOK. No where in the bible does it tell you that when you become a Christian you are to become stupid and follow after any person that comes to you proclaiming the name of the Lord. You are to TEST THEM, and continually TEST THEM ALWAYS, forever and ever.
Do you do this? TEST? Or do you just follow blindly? And don’t lie and say you test because you know you don’t. But would you like to know the TRUTH? and get a clue as to what Kobus van Rensburg is REALLY preaching and why it’s so false?
Aren’t you just one bit interested in knowing what it is that he is doing that makes hundreds of thousands of genuine Christians SHOUT OUT ‘FALSE TEACHER, FALSE PROPHET’. If you want to know, read all the articles on this website regarding Kobus van Rensburg and TB Joshua etc. And THINK about what you are reading about, don’t just dismiss it. Ask God to open your eyes to the truth.
Anibrand
Your “second” personae “Panagiotis” is very interesting…
What are you trying to say with this name ???
This name “shouts” out PRIDE . . .
Anibrand, (“onfire” in English) we as believers are urged by Paul to test ourselves (2 Cor 13:5) Please test yourself against the image of Christ and see if you are not false . . .otherwise you might end up “anibrand” (onfire) for ever !
Anibrand/panagoitis
See how foolish alcohol makes you?
[deleted] I don’t have time to listen to dribble about the love for your false prophet
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and deborah aswipe whatever i am not stupid. i knew i changed it. Lol!!!!
Panagiotis
>> and deborah aswipe whatever i am not stupid. i knew i changed it. Lol!!!!
Of course you knew you changed it, the fact is you wanted us to think you were someone else, by changing your name, why else change your name, you should have just kept your name Anibrand. Never the less…
Calling me swear words is about par for the course from Kobus cult followers – you definitely do not portray any traits of a Christian
[deleted by DTW] Panagoitis, how about this, you give us those 53 scriptures YOU SAID are in the Bible about being drunk in the spirit and I will let you carry on commenting here 🙂 How does that sound? Until you gives us those scriptures I will just keep deleting because you are adding NO VALUE to this topic what-so-ever.
Coward
Panagiotis – 53 scriptures please?
Panagoitis…
Panagiotis wrote:
Pro 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler; And whosoever erreth thereby is not wise.
Panagiotis wrote:
I think that Mr. Panagiotis is a little disapointed that he has not been acknoledged by Kobus in his church. Anibrand/Panagoitis is trying to get some “browny points” with
these “hail Mary’s” to Kobus…
Gal 1:10 For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? or am I striving to please men? if I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ.
Panagiotis wrote:
Panagoitis has not delivered and is thus is not Trustworthy . . . If I was Kobus van Rensburg, I would be very wary of Anibrand/Panagoites because he might just change his name and then … Et Tu Brutes ?
Panagiotis wrote:
Pro 15:12 A scoffer loveth not to be reproved; He will not go unto the wise.
Pro 24:7 Wisdom is too high for a fool:
Panagiotis wrote:
Jas 1:20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
It seems to be quite acceptable in the Kobus camp to swear and call people names.
Their arrogance leaves me breathless. Blessings
Aliki
You should see the emails they sent me…
I formed an opinion on that based on my own experience when I “dared”to disagree.
Previously I told you about a meeting that I attended. At that meeting the “flock ” were told by Kobus that he had been fasting for 40 days and was continuing his fast.
As opposed to the 3 fasts in the Bible he was lively and did not even appear pale. I walked out when he said that all present were “condemned to victory” in reference to Luke 10:20 LOL.
Aliki
>> were told by Kobus that he had been fasting for 40 days and was continuing his fast. As opposed to the 3 fasts in the Bible he was lively and did not even appear pale
That’s cos he was not fasting? LOL
>> I walked out when he said that all present were “condemned to victory” in reference to Luke 10:20 LOL.
“condemned to victory” That’s um… an oxymoron…
You’re so right about the oxymoron. I had forgotten to leave my brain at the door as someone said previously on the blog.
Tend to write in an abbreviated form (Sorry)
As regards the fast…… his followers put his in the same league as Our Lord, Moses and Elijah? That seemed to be the implication. Horrors
Aliki
That is the general trail of false prophets, they elevate themselves sometimes onto levels of Biblical characters like Moses and Elijah…