Calvinism a Heretical Doctrine – That’s What the Bible Says!
DTW note: Please note that Prof Johan Malan makes distinction between Hyper Calvinism and Moderate Calvinism. There is no such thing, you can’t be ‘hyper’ Elect and ‘moderately’ Elect. Calvinists believe they are Elect, full stop. Calvinism is Calvinism. You can’t pull apart the petals of TULIP and have a 1 point, 2 point or 3 point Calvinist; all the petals are intertwined and based around Limited Atonement (Predestination).
A warning as well that the Prof Malan believes that you can lose your salvation: Prof Johan Malan – A Gospel of Works – Losing your Salvation (Part 1) and Prof Johan Malan – A Gospel of Works – Losing your Salvation (Part 2) and he also believes in the false teaching of Lordship salvation Prof Johan Malan – A Gospel of Works – The Error of Lordship Salvation (Part 3) This forms part of the Holiness movement, where you work really hard at being really holy through your own strength, instead of relying on the Holy Spirit for your sanctification.
Prof Malan believes in PERSEVERANCE of the Saints, where you have to persevere to be holy otherwise you will lose your salvation. Prof Malan is an Arminian, the more modern name for this would be a Methodist.
Calvinism Refuted from the Bible
by Prof. Johan Malan, University of Limpopo, South Africa (posted January 2006) [Note: Permission received to publish this article in full]
Scripture references, unless stated otherwise, are from the New King James Version.
South Africa, since its beginning as the small Cape of Good Hope Dutch colony in 1652, has been strongly under the influence of Calvinistic (Reformed) churches planted here by colonists from the Netherlands. Calvinism became so firmly entrenched here that, for centuries, the Dutch Reformed Church (DRC), largest of the three Dutch-derived Reformed churches, functioned as a virtual state church. It was rare for candidates who did not belong to the DRC or one of its two sister churches to get senior positions in government. All churches outside these denominations were openly branded as sects.
For over 300 years, public opinion in South Africa on religious matters was shaped by Calvinistic dogma. Communication with God was formal and structured, and via liturgical rituals within the church establishment. The ordained ministers with their special titles and ecclesiastical robes were elevated above the laity and preached from imposing, raised pulpits that looked like thrones, which symbolised the absolute authority of God’s word. Church buildings were equally imposing (compare this with the simplicity of the early Christians, who met in each other’s homes, Acts 12:12; Rom. 16:5). These cathedral-like structures with their high towers, monuments to human pride, still dominate the landscape of most towns and cities, where one of the main streets is usually called Church Street. A clear statement is thus made that the authority of the church is stamped on that community.
Ministers are regarded as specially anointed dispensers of divine grace who have the sole right to administer the sacraments of infant baptism and Holy Communion, and also to preach God’s word. They are strictly bound to Calvinistic confessions and resist anything to the contrary. The belief in predestination is so strong that all the baptised and confirmed members of the church are regarded as the elect of God. Their children are automatically among the elect, and once baptised (soon after birth) they are covenant children who can never be snatched from God’s hand.
Mercifully, God’s word later enlightens some of those whom this powerful religious system has kept in spiritual bondage and darkness, and they discover they have been victims of a humanly-imposed form of godliness (the “traditions of men,” Matt. 15:9). If they then surrender themselves to the Lord to be truly born again, the DRC establishment criticises them for alleged sectarian influence and warns them not to say anything that would reflect badly on the church and its dogma. Should they then take the next step, as the New Testament requires, and be baptised as believers (Matt. 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38), they are almost always expelled from the church on the grounds that they have broken the covenant that was concluded between God and them at their “infant baptism” (a form of baptism found nowhere in the Bible). They are not as harshly treated as the Anabaptists were at Calvin’s hands, but in principle the contempt and utter rejection meted out is the same.
However, there were times when the gospel message was proclaimed from some of the Reformed pulpits in such a way that many people were saved. An appeal was made to church members to commit their lives to Christ for salvation, without assigning special significance to infant baptism other than a pledge by the parents to raise their children in the fear of the Lord. The preachers in this category were so-called one-point Calvinists (see below). Some of them, like Andrew Murray, admitted they were strongly influenced by John Wesley and other revival preachers on the subject of sanctification. Premillennial views were also advanced during the early part of the 20th century, but these were later questioned and rejected by a stronger group of amillennial theologians. The “better times” were those when the doctrines of Calvinism were not strongly adhered to.
We are now living in postmodern times when former religious dogmas, political ideologies, and cultural traditions are questioned and openly abandoned by many people. Ours is a highly confusing phase of the world history, when conformity is a rapidly vanishing phenomenon. Tradition has lost its grip on society and everyone does as he or she pleases. Human freedom has wide parameters and very few people now follow biblical principles and conservative values. Most churches in South Africa are struggling to survive and, in line with the prevailing postmodern trend, try hard to be less prescriptive, less offensive and more user-friendly.
So far has the “mystery of lawlessness” (2 Thess. 2:7) advanced that what was unthinkable just 20 years ago has happened: the DRC has stopped condemning the sin of homosexuality and now embraces the Reformation’s mortal enemy, the Roman Catholic Church! What is more, the high pulpits have been replaced by platforms where modern bands can perform their loud music and be joined by hip preachers who appear in informal dress and present a watered-down gospel message.
Biblical studies copy editor and former South African, Eldo Barkhuizen, who now lives in England, in a personal communication to me, comments on the present approach and less doctrinal style of preaching (widespread in the UK as well): “You don’t hear much teaching about hell or holiness anymore. But you never stop hearing about God’s love and grace, about how special we are to Him. Modern Christianity has quietly buried the cross, and now everything is peach blossoms and sunshine, with not a cloud in sight. Oh yes, and don’t forget – God wants us all to be wealthy as well! After all, we’re King’s Kids.”
Despite all these changes and modern fads, theological dogmas are still observed by the older generation, although in a more tolerant and compromising way. We still need to know what the errors and dangers of Calvinism, Roman Catholicism and other “commandments of men” are (Matt. 15:8-9). We also have to be conscious of unbiblical identity movements such as British Israelism, which are gaining a large following in postmodern society where the boundaries of the old order are rapidly disappearing. If all options are open in a postmodern society, we certainly have the right to observe evangelical orthodoxy. Let us stand up for the truth and be counted.
We now turn to Calvinism, the single most influential dogma in South Africa, which has captivated millions of our people in a theological worldview that has blinded them to the biblical gospel.
The errors of Calvinism
Calvinism is a false religious system that offers a spiritual foundation of sinking sand to the unsaved. Tragically, together with the related systems of Lutheranism and Roman Catholicism, it features prominently among the growing ranks of nominal Christians. Clearly an extension of the Old Testament concept of Israel as the chosen people of God, it sees its adherents as a people chosen, saved and eternally sustained by God.
The “new Israel” is perceived to be the product of unilateral decisions and acts of God in which the free will of man plays no role. Calvin said that by His eternal providence God elected some people to salvation while dooming others to perpetual destruction. The following are the basic tenets of Calvinism’s doctrine of salvation (reflected by the acronym TULIP). They are exhaustively discussed in Dave Hunt’s book, What love is this? Calvinism’s misrepresentation of God (Sisters, Oregon: Loyal Publishing, 2002).
1. Total depravity. Most Christian doctrines recognise the moral and spiritual depravity of humanity due to the Fall. However, Calvinism contends that humans, who are all fallen, are so depraved that they will not turn to God and consequently cannot take a decision to this effect. God must first intervene by regenerating the hearts of His elect, after which faith will be bestowed upon them to enable them to repent. According to Calvin, regeneration occurs during infant baptism when an eternal covenant relationship is entered into with God. In the lives of the elect and born-again believers, repentance is not associated with the transition from darkness to light, but as an ongoing process. The sins of which believers have to repent are determined by the church, which is also the dispenser of God’s grace through its sacraments such as baptism and Holy Communion. Should the church decide that practices such as homosexuality, smoking, gambling and the use of alcohol are not inherently sinful, believers need not repent of them. Christ’s holiness is imputed to them without a clear personal obligation to sanctification.
Comments: In the Old Testament, even the chosen people, Israel, had to use their free will to make decisions whether or not to obey and follow God (Josh. 24:15; Isa. 55:6-7). Most of them perished because they preferred a life of sin and thus made the wrong choice (1 Cor. 10:5). Although “covenant children,” they did not believe what was preached to them (Heb. 4:1-2). It is true that depraved people do not search for God until they are spiritually awakened by His calling them to salvation (Isa. 1:18; Matt. 9:13; 11:28; Luke 19:10). An awakened sinner who has heard the call to salvation realises that he is lost and is also informed of the solution to this problem. He must now make a decision whether to resist God’s call or to yield to it by repenting and accepting the Lord Jesus as his Saviour (Heb. 3:7-8; Eph. 5:14). Although God commands the sinner, in his own interest, to be saved (Acts 17:30) He forces nobody (Matt. 23:37). “Whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely” (Rev. 22:17 KJV; my emphasis).
2. Unconditional election. Calvinism tenaciously clings to the unbiblical premise that God has foreordained some people to heaven and others to hell. Before the foundation of the earth He, according to this view, compiled a “good luck list” for the elect and a “tough luck list” for the lost. Too bad if your name is on the latter list, because God will not regenerate your heart and bestow His grace upon you. You are a doomed soul and will suffer everlasting punishment because of your persistent sinning. This situation cannot be changed. According to the Bible, the overwhelming majority of people are among the lost (Matt. 7:13-14), which, according to Calvinism, means God loves only a minority of humanity.
Comments: God has foreknowledge of the choices all people have made (and will make), but He never foreordained anybody to heaven or hell. God is a God of love. He loves all people and “commands all men everywhere to repent” (Acts 17:30). The next verse says, He will judge the world in righteousness by Jesus Christ (Acts 17:31), which means the unsaved have wilfully decided to continue their rebellion against the God of infinite love by refusing to repent. How else could they be held accountable for their lack of repentance? If only the elect’s hearts are regenerated, and only the born-again can believe and repent, there is no point in judging those to whom the gift of salvation was purposely withheld. It is a gross insult to God to allege that He does not want all people to be saved (cf. 2 Pet. 3:9).
3. Limited atonement. In keeping with their view that God elected only certain people, Calvinists say Christ died only for this select group to make atonement for their sins. The rest of humanity are without God, without hope, and without the remotest possibility of salvation. To them, “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world” (Rev. 13:8) was not a sacrifice for all the sinful and spiritually lost descendants of Adam – only for some.
Comments: Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world (John 3:16; 2 Cor. 5:19), including those people who lived before His incarnation and crucifixion. They embraced the promise of the coming Messiah (Heb. 11:13) but brought imperfect sacrifices for their sins, foreshadowing the once-for-all sacrifice of God’s perfect Lamb (Heb. 10:1-10). Christ is “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!” (John 1:29). He did not only die for the elect, but made atonement for the sins of all people on earth, thereby opening the way to anyone for forgiveness and eternal life: “He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world” (1 John 2:2). Scripture explicitly states that God “desires all men to be saved” (1 Tim. 2:4), “not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance” (2 Pet. 3:9).
Those who are lost are in this position because they love darkness more than the light (John 3:19). The Jews who rejected the Messiah were among the elect, the chosen people, Israel. Jesus Christ “came to His own, and His own did not receive Him” (John 1:11). Only those who received Him in faith and repented of their sins were born again to become children of God (John 1:12). In the New Testament, all people are elected and called to salvation. Only a small group respond positively to the invitation to salvation, and in Christ Jesus they are indeed among the elect. Having had the foreknowledge of all who would receive Him as Saviour, the Lord Jesus ordained them to live holy, fruitful lives before Him and to serve Him in whatever way chosen by Him (Eph. 1:4-5).
4. Irresistible grace. Calvinists say, God will, through His Holy Spirit, take hold of those people who are already in a covenant relationship with Him by virtue of their election and infant baptism. They are like robots manipulated by God, as they do not act of their own volition but only do what God has already worked in their hearts to do. His sovereign decisions and foreordaining are the critical factors in their salvation, and believers put their faith in them. Having always been among the elect, Calvinists believe it is wrong to testify of ever having been lost, under the judgements of God, and in need of salvation that will bring them out of darkness into God’s marvellous light.
Comments: The very nature of God’s work of grace is that He does not use any coercion as He wishes to be freely loved by those who follow Him. That is the reason why the unsaved (whether of the chosen people or not) can harden their hearts and resist the Holy Spirit who wants to lead them to repentance (Acts 7:51). There is no possibility of grace being irresistible. The Holy Spirit strives with people by convicting them of their sins and the righteousness of Christ (John 16:8), but leaves it up to them to react to these convictions. Even after salvation the saved can grieve the Holy Spirit if they do not follow His guidance (Eph. 4:30). Paul warns the Thessalonians not to quench the Spirit (1 Thess. 5:19), thereby underscoring the fact that Christians still have a free will and should learn to know and obey the perfect will of God (Rom. 12:1-2).
5. Perseverance of the saints. This principle also rests on the Calvinistic idea that humans have no free will: that if God has contemplated our salvation, provided for it and imputed it in an irresistible way, He will also keep us from ever being snatched from His hand. So, Christ will persevere on our behalf, thereby guaranteeing our eternal security. Calvinists absolutely reject the idea of backsliding and falling from grace, as they believe God unconditionally imputed the perfect life of His Son to Christians, thereby continuously atoning and nullifying any sins they may commit.
Comments: The Bible teaches otherwise. All God’s blessings and works of grace are conditional. We must repent and confess our sins if we wish to be saved (1 John 1:9). After our salvation we must abide in Christ and persevere in holiness and faith, thereby living under the blood (1 John 1:7). What happens if we sever this relationship? Then, backsliding, even to the point of falling from grace, may occur. There are two parties in this relationship and we need to remain faithful if we wish to enjoy the benefits of God’s uninterrupted presence in our lives. We must “hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end” (Heb. 3:6). If we wilfully reject it, we abandon our faith and end up in spiritual ruin. Paul admonished Timothy to hold a fast grip on faith and a good conscience, “which some having rejected, concerning the faith have suffered shipwreck” (1 Tim. 1:19). The Living Bible correctly paraphrases this verse as follows: “Cling tightly to your faith in Christ and always keep your conscience clear, doing what you know is right. For some people have disobeyed their consciences and have deliberately done what they knew was wrong. It isn’t surprising that soon they lost their faith in Christ after defying God like that.” The assurance given in John 10:28-29 that no one will snatch the believers from Christ’s hand, confirms the fact that no person from outside (not even the devil) will be able to sever our relationship with Christ if we abide in Him. But the condition for these promises is stated in verse 27: we must persevere in hearing His voice and following Him. If we don’t abide in Him, we run the risk of becoming castaways: “Abide in Me and I in you… If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned” (John 15:4,6).
One-point Calvinists
There are many so-called evangelical or moderate Calvinists who reject the doctrines of predestination, limited atonement, irresistible grace and a form of depravity that precludes decision-making between good and evil; but such people nevertheless identify with point five, which teaches eternal security. Is a 20% Calvinist truly a Calvinist? No, but this is an anomalous situation. The five points of Calvin are interlinked and cannot rationally be separated. They are all based upon the notion of a disabled or completely distorted human will and its alleged substitution by God’s counsel for all people.
Do people not have a faculty of a free will that would enable them to choose between good and evil – and are Christians restrained from taking wrong and even fatal decisions after salvation? Certainly not! As mortals we have a human body with the possibility of being tempted to do immoral things, we have limited knowledge and can be deceived to depart from the truth, and during this dispensation we have a very dangerous and shrewd spiritual enemy to contend with (Eph. 6:11-12). Only when we have new bodies in heaven, and have perfect knowledge (1 Cor. 13:12), when even the remembrance of sin and suffering is blotted out from our minds (Rev. 21:4), and Satan, our arch enemy, is forever held in the lake of fire, will we be free from the possibility of sinning against God.
Despite these facts, many people still uphold point five of Calvin. Even Dave Hunt, who masterfully refutes Calvinism’s first four points, faltered when he got to point five by denying that Christians can act in ways which can cause their falling from grace. In his book he says he always regarded himself as a one-point Calvinist until he discovered that he has different reasons for believing in eternal security (ibid, p. 377). He explains that, according to him, eternal security lies in Christ’s atoning work on the cross and He gives eternal life to those who believe in Him. It is indeed eternal salvation imputed to us when we receive Christ, but we have it only as long as we abide in Him. Eternal life is not vested in us but in Jesus Christ, who ever calls His disciples to faithfulness. What happens if we backslide into a life of wilful sinning, no longer walking in the light and turning back to a life of unbelief? What about those who “have forsaken the right way and gone astray” (2 Pet. 2:15), having again become entangled in the pollutions of the world after their salvation? (2 Pet. 2:20). What they lose is not temporal but eternal salvation.
[DTW Note: Prof Malan calls Dave Hunt a 1 Point Calvinists by not understanding the doctrine of TULIP, please see this article to understand why Dave Hunt and everyone else who believes in Eternal Security is not a 1 point Calvinist. It is actually Prof Malan who is a 1 point Calvinist as he believes in PERSEVERANCE of the Saints. See article: The DIFFERENCE Between Assurance of Salvation (Once Saved, Always Saved) and CALVINISM’S Perseverance of the Saints (Once CHOSEN, Always CHOSEN.]
The problem with the doctrine of eternal security is that it undermines counting the cost of discipleship and weakens the urgency of sanctification as a means to remaining true to Christ and averting backsliding. We must “lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and run with endurance the race that is set before us… You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin” (Heb. 12:1,4).
The Dallas Theological Seminary also subscribes to Calvin’s fifth point. However, in their commentary (Bible Knowledge Commentary, edited by Profs. Walvoord & Zuck) they allowed Zane C. Hodges the liberty of being led by the facts at hand and to come to a contradictory conclusion in the exegesis of the following passage:
“Pursue peace with all men, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord: looking diligently less anyone should fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up should cause trouble, and by this many become defiled; lest there by any fornicator or profane person like Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright. For you know that afterwards, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought it diligently with tears” (Heb. 12:14-17).
Zane Hodges comments as follows on this passage, in which it is concluded that the lives of Christians who do what Esau did may end in a state of apostasy, thereby denying Calvin’s fifth point:
“Peace with all men as well as personal holiness must be vigorously sought since without holiness no one will see the Lord. Since no sin can stand in God’s presence, Christians must – and will be – sinless when they see the Lord (cf. 1 John 3:2). That realisation offers motivation for pursuing holiness here and now. But the author may also have had in mind the thought that one’s perception of God even now is conditioned by his real measure of holiness (Matt. 5:8). As a grim reminder of what can happen among believers, the writer warned that one who misses the grace of God may become like a bitter root whose infidelity to God affects others. Here the author had in mind Deuteronomy 29:18 where an Old Covenant apostate was called a root that produces bitter poison: ‘so that there may not be among you man or woman or family or tribe, whose heart turns away today from the Lord our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations, and that there may not be among you a root bearing bitterness.’ Such a person would be godless (profane, unhallowed, desecrated) like Esau, Jacob’s brother, whose loose and profane character led him to sell his inheritance rights as the oldest son for the temporary gratification of a single meal. He warned the readers not to yield to transitory pressures and forfeit their inheritances. If some did, they would ultimately regret the foolish step and might find their inheritance privileges irrevocably lost as were Esau’s. This would of course be true of one who ended his Christian experience in a state of apostasy, which the writer had continually warned against.”
The most common reason for serious backsliding is wilful sinning: “Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; but exhort one another daily… lest one of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end” (Heb. 3:12-14). The prodigal son was lured away from his father’s house by the sins and pleasures of the world. During the time of his wanderings he was spiritually dead and lost (Luke 15:32) but he was again restored to his father’s favour after repenting and humbling himself.
Christians also fall from grace when they accept doctrinal errors. Paul said to defectors in Galatia, “You have become estranged from Christ… you have fallen from grace” (Gal. 5:4; cf. 1:8). There were also people in Corinth whose minds were corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ (2 Cor. 11:3-4). The Holy Spirit warns us this will be common in the end-time (1 Tim. 4:1). There will be preachers “who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them” (2 Pet. 2:1). Many former evangelical preachers now openly deny the deity and virgin birth of the Lord Jesus and preach fables instead of the truth (2 Tim. 4:3-4). They brazenly change the Word of God, either through using corrupt Bible versions or by their heretical preaching. Although such were once saved, the Lord Jesus will remove their names from the book of life (Rev. 22:19). But this will never happen to the “overcomers”: “He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the book of life” (Rev. 3:5).
But who are these overcomers? Simply put, Christians victorious in the spiritual battlefield – who conquer the enemy, prevail over their own fleshly desires, and master all difficulties. In short, those who remain true to the Lord Jesus, even to the point of death. To this end we have the power of the Holy Spirit in the form of various spiritual weapons: “Be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armour of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil” (Eph. 6:10-11). To overcome, therefore, means to obey the rules of the Christian race (1 Cor. 9:24), to use all the means at our disposal (2 Tim. 3:16-17), to refrain from sinning (1 John 2:1) and to endure to the end (Heb. 12:1).
Paul says, “Like an athlete I punish my body, treating it roughly, training it to do what it should, not what it wants to. Otherwise I fear that after enlisting others for the race, I myself might be declared unfit and ordered to stand aside” (1 Cor. 9:27 LB). The KJV says that such a person may become a “castaway”. “Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall” (1 Cor. 10:12). However, the Lord is always there to protect, motivate and empower us to fight the good fight of faith (1 Tim. 6:12), but we must remain faithful and thereby become spiritually strong (Eph. 4:13-14). “You therefore, beloved, since you know these things beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” (2 Pet. 3:17-18).
Calvin’s fifth point cannot stand the scriptural test and, like the preceding four, is not worthy of serious consideration and support – not even in a revised form.
The real father of Calvinism
When considering the fallacious doctrines of Calvin we should keep in mind that he merely reproduced and further refined doctrines advanced more than a millennium earlier by the church father Augustine (354-430). He has the dubious honour of being regarded as the highest theological authority by both the Roman Catholic Church and Protestant Reformers such as Calvin and Luther. Dave Hunt rightly says that Calvin’s brand of Christianity “was without a doubt an expansion upon Augustinianism… A basic foundation of this new religious system… was an extremist view of God’s sovereignty which denied the human will, and considered the church to be God’s kingdom on earth – both views inspired by Augustine’s writings” (ibid, pp. 38,40).
Augustine lived when the western Roman Empire was breaking up. It was the fall of the western empire with its seat in Rome that led him to write his famous book The City of God. Here he expressed the view that the Church, as the City of God, is destined to rule the world and that it will never collapse. To him, the period between the first and second coming of Christ is the kingdom dispensation when the church will effectively rule the world. He also formulated the doctrine of salvation by the Church only, by means of sacraments such as infant baptism. His outward view of the Church as an earthly organization led him to seek outward, material means for preserving, and even compelling, visible unity.
Edmunt Broadbent quotes Augustine as follows: “The Lord Himself said, ‘Go out into the highways and hedges and compel them to come in’ (Luke 14:23). Wherefore is the power which the church has received by divine appointment in its due season, through the religious character and faith of kings, be the instrument by which those who are found in the highways and hedges – that is, in heresies and schisms – are compelled to come in, then let them not find fault with being compelled” (The Pilgrim Church, Grand Rapids, MI: Gospel Folio Press,1999 p. 49).
Broadbent comments on this statement: “Such teaching, from such an authority, incited and justified those methods of persecution by which papal Rome equalled the cruelties of pagan Rome. So a man of strong affections… departing from the principles of Scripture… became implicated in a vast and ruthless system of persecution” (ibid, pp. 49-50). Calvin followed suit, established a state church and persecuted those who would not abide by his doctrines and refused to accept the authority of the church. He even had many people executed who, in terms of his own preconceived ideas, were heretics, and he justified these acts until his death.
Being an amillennialist who equated the church dispensation with the future kingdom dispensation, Augustine was a replacement theologian who spiritualised various biblical concepts by ascribing other meanings to them to fit them into his own frame of reference. The Church replaced Israel, and was assigned a mission to conquer and rule the world, which would be completely taken over under the leadership of dynamic spiritual leaders (dominionism or reconstructionism). Prophecies on end-time apostasy, a great tribulation and the revelation of the Antichrist were interpreted historically by confining their fulfilment to first-century events under the rule of Nero.
Dominionism
Augustine and Calvin were grossly in error by assuming that Christ’s kingdom must be visibly established on earth before His Second Coming, even if it calls for very harsh forms of coercion. The ecclesiastical dominionism that typified their kingdom theology was a direct assault on the spiritual nature of our relationship with Christ, being completely in opposition to evangelical Christianity. They foiled the demands of the gospel which leads us to repentance and a new birth that alone renders us members of Christ’s spiritual kingdom. Instead, they baptise infants who cannot believe and repent, so as to become members of the visible church. Infants are not sanctified by baptism but by the faith of either or both of their parents (1 Cor. 7:14) until such time when they can understand the gospel and give their hearts to Christ in faith. Only then is the time for baptism. No coercion of any form can be justified from Scripture.
Furthermore, the church has no command to establish dominion over the nations by compelling them to become part of the Kingdom of God on earth. Sarah Leslie (on www.discernment-ministries.org) defines kingdom theology as follows:
“The gospel of salvation is achieved by setting up the ‘Kingdom of God’ as a literal and physical kingdom to be ‘advanced’ on Earth in the present age. Some dominionists liken the New Testament Kingdom to the Old Testament Israel in ways that justify taking up the sword, or other methods of punitive judgement, to war against enemies of their kingdom. Dominionists teach that men can be coerced or compelled to enter the Kingdom. They assign to the Church duties and rights that belong Scripturally only to Jesus Christ” (emphasis by the author).
According to Sarah Leslie, the correct gospel perspective is as follows:
“The gospel of salvation is by faith in Jesus Christ and His shed blood on the cross. The emphasis is placed upon repentance and conversion of individual souls. The kingdom of God in this age is spiritual and grows through efforts of evangelism based on teaching the Bible. It is ‘not of this world’ (John 18:36), but spiritual rule in the hearts of men (Luke 17:20-21). Furthermore, the Kingdom of God is only finally realised upon Christ’s Second Coming to Earth, where He Himself establishes His literal and physical reign” (emphasis by the author).
The dark side of Calvinism’s hero
Calvin willingly perpetuated Augustine’s distorted, humanly conceived dogma and used the kingdom-type powers assigned to the church as the manifestation of God’s kingdom on earth. Many of his adversaries paid with their lives for opposing him and his state church. The “vast and ruthless system of persecution” Augustine’s theology provided was not only used as justification for the “holy wars” waged by the Catholic Church but also for the oppression, torture and murder of countless evangelical Christians who dared to order their spiritual lives in ways that brought them into conflict with Calvin and his accomplices. The most notorious murder was the execution of the saintly Michael Servetus:
“Michael Servetus, Spanish physician and theologian whose unorthodox teachings led to his condemnation as a heretic by both Protestants and Roman Catholics and to his execution by Calvinists from Geneva… In [his] book, Servetus argued that both God the Father and Christ His Son had been dishonoured by the Constantinian promulgation of the Nicene Creed, thus obscuring the redemptive role of Christ and bringing about the fall of the church. Servetus felt he could restore the church by separating it from the state and by using only those theological formulations that could be proved from Scripture and the pre-Constantinian fathers… [Servetus was] tried for heresy from August 14 to October 25, 1553. Calvin played a prominent part in the trial and pressed for execution… Despite his intense biblicism and his wholly Christocentric view of the universe, Servetus was found guilty of heresy, mainly on his views of the Trinity and baptism. He was burned alive at Champel on October 27. His execution produced a Protestant controversy on imposing the death penalty for heresy [and] drew severe criticism upon John Calvin…” (Servetus, Michael, in: The New Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1990. Volume 10, p. 654).
“Michael Servetus… found that the expression of his opinions, which finally came to include a denial of infant baptism and of original sin, was as obnoxious to the Protestants as to the Catholics… On August 13, 1553, he was arrested in Geneva by the magistrates on a charge of blasphemy and heresy… Calvin being especially urgent and emphatic on the necessity for putting Servetus to death. Indeed, Calvin had indicated earlier that if Servetus came to Geneva, he would do his best to prevent him from leaving alive” (Servetus, Michael, in: The Encyclopedia Americana: International Edition, 1992. Volume 24 p. 584).
“Let it be noted that the Calvinists of Geneva put half-green wood around the feet of Servetus and a wreath strewn with sulphur on his head. It took over thirty minutes to render him lifeless in such a fire, while the people of Geneva stood around to watch him suffer and slowly die! … ‘Mercy, mercy! Jesus, Son of the eternal God, have mercy on me!’ the tormented man cried in the midst of the flames” (www.evangelicaloutreach.org/ashes.htm)
It is astonishing and almost unthinkable how deceived and heretical people can become after deviating from biblical truth and becoming followers of men. Christ said: “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition” (Mark 7:9). It is not surprising that such people justify violent means of establishing and extending God’s kingdom. Matthew Henry said, “Christ never intended that His gospel should be propagated by fire and sword or His righteousness wrought by the wrath of man… Christ’s victories are by the power of His gospel and grace over spiritual enemies.”
The legacy lives on
A dominating and virtually unmodified Augustinian heritage is reflected in the creeds of both the Roman Catholic and Protestant Churches. They have so much in common that one can rightfully question much of the theological rationale for the Reformation. It is evident that the corrupt practices of the Vatican, rather than purely theological issues, were among the major motivating factors for the Reformation. From a theological point of view, the Reformation was half-baked, incomplete and quite unacceptable to many evangelical believers. Dave Hunt says: “While condemning Romanism as false, [Calvin] carried over into Protestantism much of her structure and false views, such as infant baptism, a clergy with special powers and efficacy of sacraments performed only by such clergy” (ibid, p. 37).
You always encounter two major problems when daring to oppose Calvinism. The first is that your misgivings call into question not only Calvin’s integrity, but also that of the mighty church establishment that once ruled nations, governments and multitudes of their citizens. Your probing questions also provoke the dignity of the learned clergy. How dare you as a tiny “lay person” be as presumptuous as to attack this giant with all its might and influence?
The other problem is that the basic tenets of Calvinism’s doctrine of salvation (the TULIP scheme) are so closely interlinked that if just one of them falls, the whole house of cards collapses! Man is completely stripped of his faculty of a free will, and everything that happens to him is related to God’s sovereign counsel before the foundation of the world. No compromise is made on this position, and all else is described as heresy and human works. Efforts to reform Calvinism are always vehemently opposed.
Jacob Arminius (1560-1609) was one of the theologians who had to leave the Calvinistic establishment after discovering its errors as an insider. Broadbent says: “Brought up under the influence of Calvin’s teaching, Arminius – acknowledged by all as a man of spotless character, in ability and learning unexcelled – was chosen to write in defense of Calvinism of the less extreme kind, which was felt to be endangered by the attacks made upon it. Studying the subject, however, he came to see that much that he had held was indefensible; that it made God the author of sin, set limits to His saving grace, left the majority of mankind without hope or possibility of salvation. He saw from the Scriptures that the atoning work of Christ was for all, and that man’s freedom of choice is a part of the divine decree… His statement of what he had come to believe involved him personally in conflicts which so affected his spirit as to shorten his life. His teaching took a vivid and evangelical form later, in the Methodist revival” (ibid, p. 255). To Arminius, it was impossible to reconcile Calvinism with the true gospel message. God used his testimony in a mighty way and his legacy lives on.
Was Spurgeon a Calvinist?
[DTW note: Absolutey, and anyone who says differently has not studied the man’s teachings in full. Every Calvinist that is alive today and from yesteryear upholds Spurgeon as being a Calvinist – they can’t all be wrong now can they? No. The problem with Spurgeon is he spoke out of both sides of his mouth, his spoke a double gospel message to entrap the masses to Calvinism. If you want to know the real Spurgeon, read this article: Charles Haddon Spurgeon: The Prince of Preachers]
There are many true believers in Calvinist churches but this phenomenon cannot in the least be attributed to the truth of Calvinism’s doctrine of salvation. These believers have either discovered the truth during their own Bible study, in the reading of evangelical literature or in sermons of Calvinist preachers who do not subscribe to covenant theology and its reliance on infant baptism. Such preachers are not true Calvinists.
One of the great 19th century evangelical preachers in England, Charles Spurgeon, wrongly described himself as a Calvinist and is still mentioned by Calvinists as an example of the evangelical fervour their doctrine can produce. The following quotes highlight Spurgeon’s position:
“I love to proclaim these strong old doctrines that are called by nickname Calvinism” (Spurgeon’s Sovereign Grace Sermons, Still Waters Revival Books, p. 170).
“Jesus died only for His elect” (New Park Street Pulpit, 1856).
“He who in his soul believes that man of his own free will turns to God, cannot have been taught of God” (Free will a slave, 1855).
“I do not come into this pulpit hoping that perhaps somebody will of his own free will return to Christ… I hope that my Master will lay hold of some of them and say, ‘You are mine, and you shall be mine. I claim you for myself'” (Sermons, Vol. 3, p. 130).
“The human will is so desperately depraved, so inclined to everything that is evil… that without the powerful, supernatural, irresistible influence of the Holy Spirit, no human will ever be constrained toward Christ” (Sermons, Vol. 4, p.139).
However, ironically, Spurgeon’s efforts to reconcile the gospel message with Calvinism were completely unconvincing and at variance with his preaching:
- He was a Baptist who only baptised believers. He completely rejected covenant theology and its associated practice of infant baptism. If he had lived in Switzerland during the time of Calvin he might have been executed as a heretic.
- He was a premillennialist, who insisted on a literal interpretation of the Bible. He rejected the idea that we are presently in the kingdom dispensation in which God intends to rule the world through the church. He clearly stated that, after the Second Coming, the saints will rule the world for one thousand years with Christ.
- He consistently made an appeal to people’s will to receive Jesus Christ as their Saviour, and never even vaguely implied that their justification could be related to any sacraments of the church. Although he formally denied the notion of a free will, he always pleaded with sinners to consider their awful fate and turn to Christ for salvation.
- He often reminded sinners that their negligence might lead to their eternal damnation. Why then did he not tell them they were not among the elect if they refuse to be saved, that God excluded them from His plan of salvation, that He predestined their sinful acts by deciding not to save them, that He will condemn them to the lake of fire in accordance with His eternal counsel, and that He will accept the responsibility for their lost state?
- He was often confronted with the hard reality of man’s free will and implicitly admitted it by saying, “A man is not saved against his will, but he is made willing by the operation of the Holy Ghost” (Sermons, Vol. 10, p. 309). That is no proof of Calvin’s belief in irresistible grace, but man making a free choice in response to God’s call which is extended to all people.
A foundational concept of Spurgeon’s eschatology was his belief in a literal and physical resurrection of believers and unbelievers. Throughout his ministry he presented the truth that there would be separate resurrections of the just and unjust – the resurrection of the just before the millennium and the unjust after the millennium. He took issue with amillennialists who spiritualised the thousand-year reign of Christ on earth: “We expect a reigning Christ on earth; that seems to us to be very plain, and put so literally that we dare not spiritualise it” (Things to Come, 15:329). He also stated the fact clearly that Israel would be restored to their land, and he therefore did not practise the now-common replacement theology of Calvin (The Harvest and Vintage, 50:553).
The following excerpt from Spurgeon’s sermon on the second resurrection clearly emphasises his strong appeal to the lost by holding them accountable for their own destiny (New Park Street Chapel, 17.2.1856). God did not foreordain their downfall – they must decide for themselves where they want to spend eternity:
“Oh! poor sinner, if I saw thee going into the inquisitor’s den to be tormented, would I not beg of thee to stop ere thou shouldst put thy foot upon the threshold? And now I am talking to you of things that are real… I tell thee sinner, that those eyes that now look on lust shall look on miseries that shall vex and torment thee. Those ears which now thou lendest to hear the song of blasphemy, shall hear moans, and groans, and horrid sounds, such as only the damned know. That very throat down which thou pourest drink shall be filled with fire. Those very lips and arms of thine will be tortured all at once… How wilt thou bear thyself when thou shalt be loathsome with every kind of disease, leprous, palsied, black, rotten, thy bones aching, thy marrow quivering, every limb thou hast filled with pain; thy body a temple of demons, and a channel of miseries. And will ye march blindly on? As the ox goeth to the slaughter, and the sheep licketh the butcher’s knife, so is it with many of you. Sirs, you are living without Christ, many of you; you are self-righteous and ungodly. One of you is going out this afternoon to take his day’s pleasure; another is a fornicator in secret; another can cheat his neighbour; another can now and then curse God; another comes to this chapel, but in secret he is a drunkard; another prates about godliness, and God knows he is a wretched hypocrite. What will ye do in that day when ye stand before your Maker? It is a little thing to have your minister upbraid you now; it is a small thing to be judged of man’s judgment; what will ye do when God shall thunder out not your accusation, but your condemnation, ‘Depart ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels?’ … You listen to me now unmoved; it will be harder work when death gets hold of you and you lie roasting in the fire. Now you despise Christ; you will not despise Him then… O my hearers! the wrath to come! the wrath to come! the wrath to come. Who among you can dwell with devouring fire? Who among you can dwell with everlasting burnings? Can you, sir? Can you? Can you abide the flame for ever? ‘Oh, no,’ sayest thou, ‘what can I do to be saved?’ Hear thou what Christ hath to say, ‘Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.’ ‘He that believeth, and is baptized, shall be saved; he that believeth not shall be damned.’ ‘Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.'”
Wilful sinning and unbelief are the causes of people’s damnation – not predestination of one or other kind.
The debate continues
The debate on Calvinism continues unabated. After the publishing of Dave Hunt’s book on Calvinism in 2002, new impetus was given to this debate. Since that time many questions asked by Calvinists were poignantly and honestly answered in Dave’s magazine, The Berean Call (TBC). The following are some of his most recent reponses (TBC kindly granted permission to reproduce these excerpts from Dave’s answers):
In The Berean Call of September 2005, Dave responded to the following question: “Is it possible for someone who believes only in the soteriology of Calvinism to be saved? Specifically, that God has to first change a person’s heart.” He said:
“…there are many shades and colours of Calvinists. Like Lutherans, many but not all Calvinists have been baptised as babies. They believe, and did many of their parents, that infant baptism saves. Calvin even declared that the children of the elect are themselves automatically among the elect – and whether one’s parents were elected or not, if one was baptised as a baby, even by an unsaved Catholic priest, that act made one a child of God. ‘Confirmation’ only confirms this delusion. Obviously, anyone believing such a false ‘gospel’ is not saved.
“Rejection of infant baptism for salvation was one of the two charges brought by Calvin as the prosecuting attorney and for which Servetus (only one of dozens executed for alleged heresy in Geneva under Calvin) was convicted and burned at the stake. Calvin was never baptised as a believer after his separation from the Catholic Church but opposed such baptism as ‘heresy worthy of death.’ Surely a multitude of Calvinists have been led into hell by following Calvin’s teaching that infant baptism marks one as among the ‘elect,’ just as circumcision marked male Israelites as among God’s chosen people.
“One can easily see the relationship between ‘infant baptism saves without believing the gospel,’ later to be ‘confirmed,’ and the teaching that the elect are regenerated by God without even knowing it and then given faith to believe the gospel as a sovereign gift in order to be saved without any act of their own will. Is this a false gospel? Of course it is! The Bible repeatedly emphasises that salvation is for ‘whosoever will’ (Deut. 18:19; Ezra 7:26; Mark 8:34; Luke 9:5,24; Rev. 22:17, etc.). Man must come to God of his own free will and offer himself willingly…
“We are regenerated by believing in Christ. But Calvinism insists upon regeneration before one believes – a ‘regeneration’ that gives life without believing the gospel! Are we regenerated twice? Without believing the gospel, there is no new birth, no life in Christ, so Calvinism’s ‘regeneration’ as a prerequisite for receiving the gift of faith from God in order to believe the gospel is unquestionably heresy.
“Ah, but we are ‘dead in trespasses and in sins,’ quotes the Calvinist to justify this doctrine… If the spiritually dead cannot hear, understand and believe the gospel, but first must be regenerated, then the entire Bible becomes nonsense. God’s countless appeals to mankind to repent and come to Him are a mockery if those to whom He speaks are dead and cannot hear – if they are totally depraved and cannot repent and turn to Him without the grace He withholds while blaming them for not repenting. The dozens of verses in which God commands all mankind to seek Him and in which He promises that all who seek Him with all their hearts will find Him – these become a mockery if the unsaved cannot seek God and if He only extends the grace to seek Him to an ‘elect.’ God pleads endlessly through His prophets not only for Israel to repent but declares, ‘Look unto Me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth’ (Isa. 45:22)…
“All [people] sin and are condemned, and all need salvation. According to Calvinism, God could save everyone if He so desired, but chooses to save only some, i.e., whoever is save and whoever is lost is because God willed it, not because they chose. [Calvinists] believe in a God who deliberately damns millions (perhaps billions) whom He could save if He so desired. This is the issue. Calvinism maligns God’s character, making Him less loving than He requires us to be!
“We are clearly told that He ‘will have all men to be saved’ (1 Tim. 2:4)… Commenting upon this passage, John MacArthur attempts to justify Calvinism by saying (in his study Bible) that God has two wills in conflict, a will of desire and a will of decree: He wills for all to be saved but doesn’t decree it! So God frustrates His own will? Amazing!”
A gospel that cannot save
In The Berean Call of Dec. 05, Dave Hunt received the following question: “Do you really believe what you said in TBC of September 2005 that those who only believe the false gospel of Calvinism are not saved?” His answer was as follows:
“The original question was, ‘Is it possible for someone who believes only in the soteriology of Calvin to be saved?’ As I said in my response, there are many Calvinists who were saved before they became Calvinists or who have believed the true gospel in spite of their Calvinism – but those who only know the false gospel of Calvinism are not saved. If all one believes is that infant baptism saves, as Calvin taught (and which is the case with many Calvinists) one is certainly not saved. If a person believes that he was saved through infant baptism, how is it possible for him, without relinquishing that false belief, to truly be saved by believing the gospel? He has no need of the true gospel, having already been forgiven his sins and made a child of God through infant baptism. He may affirm at his confirmation that Christ died for his sins, but he still believes that the benefit of that sacrifice came to him through infant baptism long before his ‘confirmation’ of this lie.
“How could that false faith save? If it does, then the many former Catholics, Lutherans, and Presbyterians who realised they weren’t saved through their infant baptism, and who put their faith in Christ, were born again, and then baptised as believers, have been deluded. But they would vehemently deny that they were saved all the time in spite of their faith in infant baptism! And they would reject Calvin himself as an ‘ex-Catholic’ because he continued to rely upon his infant baptism for salvation, he declared that being baptised as a baby was the sure way of knowing one was among the elect, he opposed those who got saved and were then baptised, he banned the Anabaptists from Geneva in 1537, and he even had some burned at the stake for this belief.
“Am I denying that Calvin was saved? No, only God knew his heart. But if all he believed was (as he taught) that Christ died only for the elect, and that his infant baptism into the Roman Catholic Church proved that he was one of the elect, then he never got saved no matter how eloquently he wrote about Christ’s sufferings on the Cross for our sins.
“If all one believes is that one has no choice – that it is God who causes some to believe and not others, and that one must be unwittingly regenerated by Him and only then faith to believe the gospel – how can such a person make a genuine choice to believe in Christ? How could that person, consistent with this Calvinist belief, ever have the assurance offered in 1 John 5:13? No matter how simple and strong his faith in Christ may seem to be, how could he be certain that such ‘faith in Christ’ was truly given to him by God after He had regenerated him?
“If all one believes is that Christ died only for the elect but not for all – how can that person be certain that Christ died for him and that his faith in Christ is not presumption? How can he believe the true gospel that “if any man thirst, let him come unto Me, and drink… let him that is athirst come. And whoever will, let him take the water of life freely” (John 7:37; Rev. 22:17), if he really believes that he is totally depraved and unable either to hear the invitation or respond to it? Calvin even said that God gives a false sense of assurance to the non-elect the better to damn them. If one’s most basic belief denies the very assurance Scripture offers, how can it be said that one believes the gospel promise of “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved” (Acts 16:31)?
“That a person may believe the true gospel and thus be truly saved in spite of believing the false gospel of Calvinism may be possible. But I don’t see how one could sort out the fact that contradictory beliefs were being held. What does one really believe?”
Predestination?
Dave Hunt (TBC, Dec. 05) was also asked, “How can a non-Calvinist explain 2 Thess. 2:13? Isn’t it quite conclusive that those to whom Paul wrote had been ‘chosen [unto] salvation’ – i.e., predestined to heaven?” He replied:
“That scripture states, ‘God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.’ Does that mean that they had been predestined for heaven? Absolutely not.
“The clear message of Scripture from Genesis to Revelation is that all mankind have been ‘chosen to salvation’ by the God who would ‘have all men saved…’ (1 Tim. 2:4), who is ‘the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe’ (4:10), and whose Son ‘gave Himself a ransom for all’ (2:6). The fact that one has been chosen to salvation does not mean that one has been predestined for heaven, but that one is a sinner, and all sinners have the opportunity to believe the gospel – which most refuse to do.
“Christ said to His disciples, ‘Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? He spake of Judas… that should betray Him’ (John 6:70-71). Clearly, the fact that Judas was one of those chosen to be a disciple did not guarantee that he would fulfil that calling. He was morally responsible to follow Christ by faith. Through his own choice he did not do so and is now in hell.
“The same biblical truth is demonstrated also in Israel: ‘The Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto Himself…’ (Deut. 7:6). That ‘choosing’ did not automatically assure that every physical descendant of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob would necessarily live the part. Unfortunately, Israel as a whole did not fulfil that calling but went into sin, and God had to cast her out of the land [cf. 1 Cor. 10:1-12 – ed.].
“From these and other scriptures, it is clear that being ‘chosen’ to salvation does not bring salvation: one must still believe the gospel in order to be saved. That fact is further made clear by the rest of the verse: ‘through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.’ Though ‘chosen to salvation,’ the means of salvation is not the choosing by God, but it is the individual’s belief of the truth.”
Distortion of God’s love
Dave Hunt (ibid, bl. 414) makes the following concluding remarks in his book:
“My heart has been broken by Calvinism’s misrepresentation of the God of the Bible whom I love, and for the excuse this has given atheists not to believe in Him. My sincere and earnest desire in writing this book has been to defend God’s character against the libel that denies His love for all and insists that He does not make salvation available to all because He does want all to be saved. It is my prayer that readers will recognize that Christian authors and leaders, ancient or modern and no matter how well respected, are all fallible and that God’s Word is our only authority. God’s Word declares that the gospel, which is ‘the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth’ Rom. 1:16), is ‘good tidings of great joy,’ not just to certain elect, but ‘to all people’ (Luke 2:10). Sadly, the insistence that only a select few have been elected to salvation is not ‘good tidings of great joy to all people’! How can such a doctrine be biblical?”
Tim LaHaye, co-author of the Left Behind Series, comments as follows on Dave Hunt’s book:
“To suggest that the merciful, longsuffering, gracious and loving God of the Bible would invent a dreadful doctrine like Calvinism, which would have us believe it is an act of ‘grace’ to select only certain people for heaven and, by exclusion, others for hell, comes perilously close to blasphemy. And that is why I congratulate Dave Hunt for writing this excellent clarification of the doctrine that has its roots more in Greek humanism, from where it originated, than is does in Scripture. This book could well be the most important book written in the twenty-first century for all evangelical Christians to read. It will help you know and love the real God of the Bible who clearly says of Himself, ‘It is not My will that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.’ Calvinism is a far cry from the Bible who loves mankind so much that He sent His only Son to save whosoever calls on Him for mercy in the name of His resurrected Son, Jesus Christ. Every evangelical minister should read this book. If they did, we would see a mighty revival of soul-winning passion that would turn this world upside down as multitudes saw the real God of the Bible, not the false God of Augustinianism and Calvinism.”
The truth will make you free
God’s Word is the truth and we must search it to find the truth pertaining to all matters related to our faith. “There is no one righteous, no, not one… there is no one who does good, no, not one… for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus” (Rom. 3:10,12,23,24). All the members of the entire human race are sinners who urgently need God’s saving grace. “For God so loved the [entire inhabited] world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life” (John 3:16). God “commands all men everywhere to repent” (Acts 17:30).
Why does He make this strong appeal of repentance to “all men everywhere”? “For there is no partiality with God” (Rom. 2:11).
Peter, who initially thought that salvation is a gift of God only to the elect (Israel), soon changed his mind on this subject: “In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him” (Acts 10:34-35). Please note that it is not those that were already accepted by God through election who repented and feared Him. He accepts any people from Israel and the Gentile world who diligently seek Him.
That only means one thing: God calls all people everywhere to repentance and faith in His Son, thereby giving them the choice between life and death. Those who wilfully reject the offer of salvation will be punished in hell and have only themselves to blame. “If you warn the wicked to turn from his way, and he does not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity” (Ezek. 33:9). The wicked will not die because they were not among the elect but because they refused the offer of salvation. “God sovereignly decreed that man should be free to exercise moral choice, and man from the beginning has fulfilled that decree by making his choice between good and evil” (A.W. Tozer: The Knowledge of the Holy).
When we are saved, we become disciples of the Lord Jesus alone, who is our Saviour and faithful High Priest. We should not blindly follow fallible human ‘priests’ with their denominational creeds and unbiblical teachings, no matter how famous and popular they are. Many of them are “blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch” (Matt. 15:14). Jesus Christ is “the way, the truth and the life” (John 14:6). He said: “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life” (John 8:12). Everybody in the whole world is invited to this new and living way.
Perseverance
We should persevere on the way of the Lord. When we do it we will never have any doubts on our spiritual lives, nor any fear that we would consciously resist or quench the Holy Spirit (1 Thess. 5:19). Why must we take such a strong stand against Calvin’s fifth point, which teaches that believers can never fall from grace? Firstly, because we should ensure that we make progress on the way of sanctification (Phil. 3:10-12; Eph. 4:13) by observing the principle that there is no room for spiritual deception and other sins in our lives (1 John 2:1; Eph. 4:27). Secondly, we must be able to realise the full extent of backsliders’ problems and guard against giving them false hopes on salvation when they may be in an advanced stage of apostatising.
The Calvinist, Arthur Pink, made the following sober remarks on the promise in John 10:27-28, which is taken by many of his fellow Calvinists as an assurance of unconditional eternal security: “There is a deadly and damnable heresy being widely propagated today to the effect that, if a sinner accepts Christ as his personal Saviour, no matter how he lives afterwards, he cannot perish. That is a satanic lie, for it is at direct variance with the teaching of the Word of Truth. Something more than believing in Christ is necessary to ensure the soul’s reaching heaven. ‘If ye continue in My Word, then are ye My disciples indeed’ (John 8:31). The Amplified Bible says: ‘If you abide in My Word – hold fast to My teachings and live in accordance with them – you are truly My disciples.’
“‘My sheep,’ said Christ, ‘hear [heed, obey] My voice… and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they [those who plainly evidence themselves to be of His sheep by yielding to His authority and following the example which He has left them – and none others] shall never perish’ (John 10:27-28). It is not honest to generalise the promise of verse 28, as it must be restricted to the characters described in verse 27! These conditions are confirmed by other Scriptures. Paul says that through His death Christ will present us holy, blameless and irreproachable in His sight, ‘if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel’ (Col. 1:22-23). ‘Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised it is faithful’ (Heb. 10:23). There is a very real need to pray for persevering grace, both for ourselves and for our brethren.”
Arthur Pink was severely criticised by other Calvinists for defining perseverance of the saints in such a way that it places a responsibility on believers to diligently keep on following the Lord to the end. According to them, a Christian will go to heaven even if he backslides and falls into sin. According to their unbiblical teaching, imputed righteousness relieves you from all human efforts to live a holy and worthy life. However, Paul said that although he, as a Christian, competed in the spiritual race, that did not guarantee him a victorious finish. He held out the possibility that even he might be disqualified (1 Cor. 9:27).
The eternal security that the Lord Jesus offers us is conditional. We need to repent, confess our sins and accept the Lord Jesus as our Saviour to become born again children of God. After our salvation we must live holy, dedicated lives by always remaining faithful to Christ. If we don’t persevere on the way of holiness and true discipleship there is a very real danger of being deceived by Satan and ending up as backsliders. Please consider the following examples:
Corinth: Paul was deeply disappointed by the carnal members of the congregation in Corinth (1 Cor. 3:1-3), who had no discernment and easily fell prey to Satan’s deception: “For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I might present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you put up with it well” (2 Cor. 11:2-4). False teachings of the gospel of Jesus Christ were presented under the influence of deceiving spirits, and most of the church members naively accepted it.
Ephesus: The Ephesians received stern warnings from Paul, but evidently did not heed them: “For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves” (Acts 20:29-30). A generation later, the entire congregation has apostatised and were called to repentance by Christ (Rev. 2:4-5).
Galatia: The Galatians have backslidden into a legalistic form of religion in which Christ’s work of atonement was not regarded to be sufficient for salvation. Paul strongly reprimanded them for going backwards (Gal. 3:1-3). They ended up as backslidden, carnal believers who were at risk of falling from grace (Gal. 5:4).
Hebrew believers: Many of the Hebrew Christians lost their faith because of unbelief and sin (Heb. 3:12-13). Others stagnated and apostatised due to their lack of spiritual growth (Heb. 5:12-13). Because of this they remained unsure of their salvation, repenting time and again without growing up to spiritual maturity (Heb. 6:1).
Pergamos: The compromise that the church in Pergamos made with the secular world has inevitably given rise to disloyalty and infidelity among members (Rev. 2:14). Many of the modern churches have also been lured into various practices of fornication with the non-Christian religions, as well as moral impurity.
Thyatira: The church in Thyatira was characterised by false teachings and sexual immorality. Many of the modern churches are equally guilty of these sins as false teachings are proliferating, while sexual immorality, including homosexuality, is openly tolerated and even accepted. Churches who share these characteristics have backslidden so far that they have fallen from grace. They will miss the rapture and end up in the tribulation period as worshippers of the Antichrist (Rev. 2:20-22). A number of modern churches may have made a good start but are now standing in front of the gates of Sodom while transforming themselves according to the principles of the antichristian new world order.
The Lord Jesus issued the following warnings to nominal and backslidden churches:
- The lampstand of churches that only have a form of godliness will be removed by Him, which means that His Holy Spirit will depart from them (Rev. 2:5).
- Churches that compromised with the world will be judged by the Word of God because they were untrue to the living Word, Jesus Christ (Rev. 2:16).
- Backslidden churches that accepted doctrines of demons will end up in the great tribulation unless they repent of their deeds (Rev. 2:22).
- The Lord Jesus says that He withdraws Himself completely from churches that are characterised by spiritual lukewarmness because of materialism and self-justification (Rev. 3:16-17).
True Christians must fulfil their commission on earth while enduring relentless attacks from a world that lies under the sway of the Wicked One, and also from false churches that only have a form of godliness. This is a superhuman assignment that cannot be executed without the gracious and enabling power of the Holy Spirit and also not without a clear disposition of perseverance on the narrow way of the Lord until He comes again. In spite of their little strength in this dispensation (Rev. 3:8), true disciples of Jesus Christ will be fed with heavenly manna and be strengthened for the struggle.
We should never give up because of fierce opposition by withdrawing from “the good fight of faith” (1 Tim. 6:12). Observe the example of Jesus: “For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls. You have not resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin” (Heb. 12:3-4).
“For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise: For yet a little while, and He who is coming will come and will not tarry. Now the just shall live by faith; but if anyone draws back, my soul has no pleasure in him. But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul” (Heb. 10:36-39).
Are you an overcomer who perseveres on the way of the Lord? Jesus Christ said: “Behold, I come quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown” (Rev. 3:11). In the light of His sudden coming, we are exhorted to hold fast what we have, lest our crown be robbed from us by the enemy. Everyone who overcomes will be a pillar in the temple of God (Rev. 3:12), which is symbolic of the permanent place in heaven of true believers who overcame.
Before being exiled to Patmos, John warned the believers against backsliding and losing their reward in heaven: “Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward” (2 John v.8). We effectively have to resist false doctrines and moral corruption if we wish to remain true to the doctrine of Christ.
“Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son” (2 John v.9). Profs. Walvoord & Zuck (The Bible Knowledge Commentary) say the following on this Scripture:
“These words suggest strongly that the apostle was thinking here of defection from the truth by those who had once held to it. The word ‘continue’ (Greek meno) has been used 23 times in 1 John in reference to the ‘abiding’ life. A person who does not continue in a thing has evidently once been in it. The New Testament writers were realists about the possibility of true Christians falling prey to heresy and warned about it, particularly in the book Hebrews. John had just cautioned his readers about possible loss of reward (v.8). They were thus now cautioned not to overstep the boundaries of sound doctrine, but to remain where they were, and to abide (continue) in the teaching on Christ. To deviate from the truth is to leave God behind. God is not with a person who does so. What such a person does, he does without God.”
I don’t regret making any of my other comments!
I have major concerns with many aspects of Roman Catholic doctrine which I do not see as being compatible with the Bible. However, I am not prepared to say that “Roman Catholics are not Christians” as, over the years, I have met a few Roman Catholics who are definitely Christians. I am happy to say “I suspect that the majority of Roman Catholics are not Christians”. In the end, only God knows where a person’s heart is. Are they trusting in Jesus for salvation? I am sure that some Catholics are, whilst many others are not.
I primarily see myself as a follower of Jesus. I tend to avoid loaded phrases such as “born-again Christian” which carry all sorts of baggage. However, I will reluctantly describe myself as such, if only to assure you that I see faith from an evangelical protestant perspective.
However, what is the point in prefixing “Christian” with “born-again”? Where is the Biblical basis for that? Someone is either a Christian or they are not. There’s no need to qualify the word in any way.
Did you know that there’s only one instance in the whole Bible where a follower of Jesus uses the term Christian (and only two other occurences of the word). Terms like disciple or believer are far more widespread.
The phrase “born-again Christian” is a modern invention that dates from the 1960s. Christians before then didn’t use it. And recent theological studies suggest that the Greek word for “born again” may be better translated as “born from above”. So I think it’s best dropped from the list of evangelical jargon.
I have to wonder why you are focussing on a phrase (born again) that only occurs in two passages in the Bible. Jesus only used it to one person who appears to have come to Him in private. He’s not recorded as proclaiming “you must be born again” to anyone else, and neither are any of the apostles.
Apologies for that minor rant, let’s go back on topic.
My point on biblical interpretation was a general one, and I’m sorry if you wanted to restrict the discussions to matters of salvation. I can assure you that Calvinists have the same views in this area to non-Calvinists – Calvinists believe that salvation is by grace though faith in Jesus. So do Arminians. All the Calvinists I’ve met emphasise the need for personal faith in Jesus.
But my key point remains is that we need to find a better way of resolving our differences than mutual name calling and insisting we are right and the other person is wrong.
On Billy Graham, etc, an evangelist doesn’t save people, Jesus does. But the Bible makes it clear that people can’t believe unless they hear the good news preached. I thank God for those people who shared the gospel with me 27 years ago, and they had come to faith through the work of a pastor who was inspired by Billy Graham’s evangelism. That’s all, nothing more, nothing less.
I don’t idolise BG, and I’m not convinced by his involvements with Catholics, although I don’t think that this has ever been a big part of his ministry. But perhaps he felt that he could best preach the gospel to Catholics by getting the Roman Catholic church to support his crusades. The alternative approach (condemning the Pope as the antichrist etc) is not going to get Catholics to listen to him.
Andrew
Well I as a BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN would NEVER force you to do anything or say anything you don’t want to agree with.
Adios Amigo.
Andrew, I am late to this conversation, but would like to make a couple of comments.
First, if you object to the term “born-again”, you will need to takek that up with our Lord Jesus because He is the one who “coined” the term. Just because mankind has jaded it does not negate the validity of the term.
Second, yes, only God knows the heart. However, in visiting with a Roman Catholic who professes to be a “born-again” Christian, there is one way to tell if they are true believers. Ask them the hypothetical question that if they died today and stood before the Lord (assuming they believe they will bypass purgatory) and He asked you “Why should I let you into My heaven?” If they respond citing works of any kind other than faith in the Lord Jesus, they are not saved. Roman Catholicism is a works based religious system worshipping a false Christ. Anyone trusting in works of any kind is not saved because they don’t understand the Gospel. Many Catholics says they are not “traditional” and are different from regular Catholics. They are usually part of the charimatics who consider tongues the binding factor. This is a lie from the pit and needs to be dispelled by true believers, but is rarely done.
It is true that there can be Catholics who get saved while in the church, but it should become apparent fairly shortly that the beliefs are unbiblical alnd they need to come out and be separate. Trouble is, many evangelicals have abandoned the concept of separatism and agreed that Catholics need not be evangelized.
Andrew
1. Acts 11:2
So when Peter went up to Jerusalem, the circumcision party [certain Jewish Christians] found fault with him [separating themselves from him in a hostile spirit, opposing and disputing and contending with him],
Acts 11:1-3 (in Context) Acts 11 (Whole Chapter)
2. Acts 11:26
And when he had found him, he brought him back to Antioch. For a whole year they assembled together with and were guests of the church and instructed a large number of people; and in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians.
Acts 11:25-27 (in Context) Acts 11 (Whole Chapter)
3. Acts 13:12
Then the proconsul believed (became a Christian) when he saw what had occurred, for he was astonished and deeply touched at the teaching concerning the Lord and from Him.
Acts 13:11-13 (in Context) Acts 13 (Whole Chapter)
4. Acts 14:1
NOW AT Iconium [also Paul and Barnabas] went into the Jewish synagogue together and spoke with such power that a great number both of Jews and of Greeks believed (became Christians);
Acts 14:1-3 (in Context) Acts 14 (Whole Chapter)
5. Acts 17:34
But some men were on his side and joined him and believed (became Christians); among them were Dionysius, a judge of the Areopagus, and a woman named Damaris, and some others with them.
Acts 17:33-34 (in Context) Acts 17 (Whole Chapter)
6. Acts 26:28
Then Agrippa said to Paul, You think it a small task to make a Christian of me [just offhand to induce me with little ado and persuasion, at very short notice].
Acts 26:27-29 (in Context) Acts 26 (Whole Chapter)
7. Acts 28:14
There we found some [Christian] brethren and were entreated to stay with them for seven days. And so we came to Rome.
Acts 28:13-15 (in Context) Acts 28 (Whole Chapter)
8. Acts 28:15
And the [Christian] brethren there, having had news of us, came as far as the Forum of Appius and the Three Taverns to meet us. When Paul saw them, he thanked God and received new courage.
Acts 28:14-16 (in Context) Acts 28 (Whole Chapter)
9. Romans 16:2
That you may receive her in the Lord [with a Christian welcome], as saints (God’s people) ought to receive one another. And help her in whatever matter she may require assistance from you, for she has been a helper of many including myself [shielding us from suffering].
Romans 16:1-3 (in Context) Romans 16 (Whole Chapter)
10. 1 Corinthians 1:7
That you are not [consciously] falling behind or lacking in any special spiritual endowment or Christian grace [ the reception of which is due to the power of divine grace operating in your souls by the Holy Spirit], while you wait and watch [constantly living in hope] for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and [His] being made visible to all.
1 Corinthians 1:6-8 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter)
11. 1 Corinthians 2:6
Yet when we are among the full-grown (spiritually mature Christians who are ripe in understanding), we do impart a [higher] wisdom (the knowledge of the divine plan previously hidden); but it is indeed not a wisdom of this present age or of this world nor of the leaders and rulers of this age, who are being brought to nothing and are doomed to pass away.
1 Corinthians 2:5-7 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 2 (Whole Chapter)
12. 1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I write to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of [Christian] brother if he is known to be guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater [whose soul is devoted to any object that usurps the place of God], or is a person with a foul tongue [railing, abusing, reviling, slandering], or is a drunkard or a swindler or a robber. [No] you must not so much as eat with such a person.
1 Corinthians 5:10-12 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 5 (Whole Chapter)
13. 1 Corinthians 6:3
Do you not know also that we [Christians] are to judge the [very] angels and pronounce opinion between right and wrong [for them]? How much more then [as to] matters pertaining to this world and of this life only!
1 Corinthians 6:2-4 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 6 (Whole Chapter)
14. 1 Corinthians 7:14
For the unbelieving husband is set apart (separated, withdrawn from heathen contamination, and affiliated with the Christian people) by union with his consecrated (set-apart) wife, and the unbelieving wife is set apart and separated through union with her consecrated husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean (unblessed heathen, outside the Christian covenant), but as it is they are prepared for God [pure and clean].
1 Corinthians 7:13-15 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 7 (Whole Chapter)
15. 1 Corinthians 9:5
Have we not the right also to take along with us a Christian sister as wife, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas (Peter)?
1 Corinthians 9:4-6 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 9 (Whole Chapter)
16. 1 Corinthians 12:4
Now there are distinctive varieties and distributions of endowments (gifts, extraordinary powers distinguishing certain Christians, due to the power of divine grace operating in their souls by the Holy Spirit) and they vary, but the [Holy] Spirit remains the same.
1 Corinthians 12:3-5 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 12 (Whole Chapter)
17. 1 Corinthians 14:4
He who speaks in a [strange] tongue edifies and improves himself, but he who prophesies [ interpreting the divine will and purpose and teaching with inspiration] edifies and improves the church and promotes growth [in Christian wisdom, piety, holiness, and happiness].
1 Corinthians 14:3-5 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 14 (Whole Chapter)
18. 2 Corinthians 1:12
It is a reason for pride and exultation to which our conscience testifies that we have conducted ourselves in the world [generally] and especially toward you, with devout and pure motives and godly sincerity, not in fleshly wisdom but by the grace of God (the unmerited favor and merciful kindness by which God, exerting His holy influence upon souls, turns them to Christ, and keeps, strengthens, and increases them in Christian virtues).
2 Corinthians 1:11-13 (in Context) 2 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter)
19. 2 Corinthians 8:19
And more than that, he has been appointed by the churches to travel as our companion in regard to this bountiful contribution which we are administering for the glory of the Lord Himself and [to show] our eager readiness [as Christians to help one another].
2 Corinthians 8:18-20 (in Context) 2 Corinthians 8 (Whole Chapter)
20. 2 Corinthians 11:26
Many times on journeys, [exposed to] perils from rivers, perils from bandits, perils from [my own] nation, perils from the Gentiles, perils in the city, perils in the desert places, perils in the sea, perils from those posing as believers [but destitute of Christian knowledge and piety];
2 Corinthians 11:25-27 (in Context) 2 Corinthians 11 (Whole Chapter)
21. Galatians 2:4
[My precaution was] because of false brethren who had been secretly smuggled in [to the Christian brotherhood]; they had slipped in to spy on our liberty and the freedom which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might again bring us into bondage [under the Law of Moses].
Galatians 2:3-5 (in Context) Galatians 2 (Whole Chapter)
22. Galatians 4:3
So we [Jewish Christians] also, when we were minors, were kept like slaves under [the rules of the Hebrew ritual and subject to] the elementary teachings of a system of external observations and regulations.
Galatians 4:2-4 (in Context) Galatians 4 (Whole Chapter)
23. Philippians 3:3
For we [Christians] are the true circumcision, who worship God in spirit and by the Spirit of God and exult and glory and pride ourselves in Jesus Christ, and put no confidence or dependence [on what we are] in the flesh and on outward privileges and physical advantages and external appearances–
Philippians 3:2-4 (in Context) Philippians 3 (Whole Chapter)
24. Colossians 4:5
Behave yourselves wisely [living prudently and with discretion] in your relations with those of the outside world (the non-Christians), making the very most of the time and seizing (buying up) the opportunity.
Colossians 4:4-6 (in Context) Colossians 4 (Whole Chapter)
25. Colossians 4:11
And [greetings also from] Jesus, who is called Justus. These [Hebrew Christians] alone of the circumcision are among my fellow workers for [the extension of] God’s kingdom, and they have proved a relief and a comfort to me.
Colossians 4:10-12 (in Context) Colossians 4 (Whole Chapter)
26. 1 Thessalonians 4:9
But concerning brotherly love [for all other Christians], you have no need to have anyone write you, for you yourselves have been [personally] taught by God to love one another.
1 Thessalonians 4:8-10 (in Context) 1 Thessalonians 4 (Whole Chapter)
27. 2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the apostasy comes first [unless the predicted great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition),
2 Thessalonians 2:2-4 (in Context) 2 Thessalonians 2 (Whole Chapter)
28. 1 Timothy 3:9
They must possess the mystic secret of the faith [Christian truth as hidden from ungodly men] with a clear conscience.
1 Timothy 3:8-10 (in Context) 1 Timothy 3 (Whole Chapter)
29. 1 Timothy 4:6
If you lay all these instructions before the brethren, you will be a worthy steward and a good minister of Christ Jesus, ever nourishing your own self on the truths of the faith and of the good [Christian] instruction which you have closely followed.
1 Timothy 4:5-7 (in Context) 1 Timothy 4 (Whole Chapter)
30. 2 Timothy 2:22
Shun youthful lusts and flee from them, and aim at and pursue righteousness (all that is virtuous and good, right living, conformity to the will of God in thought, word, and deed); [and aim at and pursue] faith, love, [and] peace (harmony and concord with others) in fellowship with all [Christians], who call upon the Lord out of a pure heart.
2 Timothy 2:21-23 (in Context) 2 Timothy 2 (Whole Chapter)
31. Titus 2:1
BUT [as for] you, teach what is fitting and becoming to sound (wholesome) doctrine [the character and right living that identify true Christians].
Titus 2:1-3 (in Context) Titus 2 (Whole Chapter)
32. Philemon 1:2
And to Apphia our sister and Archippus our fellow soldier [in the Christian warfare], and to the church [assembly that meets] in your house:
Philemon 1:1-3 (in Context) Philemon 1 (Whole Chapter)
33. Philemon 1:7
For I have derived great joy and comfort and encouragement from your love, because the hearts of the saints [who are your fellow Christians] have been cheered and refreshed through you, [my] brother.
Philemon 1:6-8 (in Context) Philemon 1 (Whole Chapter)
34. Philemon 1:16
Not as a slave any longer but as [something] more than a slave, as a brother [Christian], especially dear to me but how much more to you, both in the flesh [as a servant] and in the Lord [as a fellow believer].
Philemon 1:15-17 (in Context) Philemon 1 (Whole Chapter)
35. Hebrews 3:1
SO THEN, brethren, consecrated and set apart for God, who share in the heavenly calling, [thoughtfully and attentively] consider Jesus, the Apostle and High Priest Whom we confessed [as ours when we embraced the Christian faith].
Hebrews 3:1-3 (in Context) Hebrews 3 (Whole Chapter)
36. Hebrews 13:24
Give our greetings to all of your spiritual leaders and to all of the saints (God’s consecrated believers). The Italian Christians send you their greetings [also].
Hebrews 13:23-25 (in Context) Hebrews 13 (Whole Chapter)
37. James 1:9
Let the brother in humble circumstances glory in his elevation [as a Christian, called to the true riches and to be an heir of God],
James 1:8-10 (in Context) James 1 (Whole Chapter)
38. 1 Peter 2:17
Show respect for all men [treat them honorably]. Love the brotherhood (the Christian fraternity of which Christ is the Head). Reverence God. Honor the emperor.
1 Peter 2:16-18 (in Context) 1 Peter 2 (Whole Chapter)
39. 1 Peter 4:10
As each of you has received a gift (a particular spiritual talent, a gracious divine endowment), employ it for one another as [befits] good trustees of God’s many-sided grace [faithful stewards of the extremely diverse powers and gifts granted to Christians by unmerited favor].
1 Peter 4:9-11 (in Context) 1 Peter 4 (Whole Chapter)
40. 1 Peter 4:16
But if [one is ill-treated and suffers] as a Christian [which he is contemptuously called], let him not be ashamed, but give glory to God that he is [deemed worthy to suffer] in this name.
1 Peter 4:15-17 (in Context) 1 Peter 4 (Whole Chapter)
41. 1 Peter 5:3
Not domineering [as arrogant, dictatorial, and overbearing persons] over those in your charge, but being examples (patterns and models of Christian living) to the flock (the congregation).
1 Peter 5:2-4 (in Context) 1 Peter 5 (Whole Chapter)
42. 1 Peter 5:9
Withstand him; be firm in faith [against his onset–rooted, established, strong, immovable, and determined], knowing that the same ( identical) sufferings are appointed to your brotherhood (the whole body of Christians) throughout the world.
1 Peter 5:8-10 (in Context) 1 Peter 5 (Whole Chapter)
43. 2 Peter 1:5
For this very reason, adding your diligence [to the divine promises], employ every effort in exercising your faith to develop virtue (excellence, resolution, Christian energy), and in [exercising] virtue [develop] knowledge (intelligence),
2 Peter 1:4-6 (in Context) 2 Peter 1 (Whole Chapter)
44. 2 Peter 1:7
And in [exercising] godliness [develop] brotherly affection, and in [exercising] brotherly affection [develop] Christian love.
2 Peter 1:6-8 (in Context) 2 Peter 1 (Whole Chapter)
45. 1 John 1:3
What we have seen and [ourselves] heard, we are also telling you, so that you too may realize and enjoy fellowship as partners and partakers with us. And [this] fellowship that we have [which is a distinguishing mark of Christians] is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ (the Messiah).
1 John 1:2-4 (in Context) 1 John 1 (Whole Chapter)
46. 1 John 2:9
Whoever says he is in the Light and [yet] hates his brother [Christian, born-again child of God his Father] is in darkness even until now.
1 John 2:8-10 (in Context) 1 John 2 (Whole Chapter)
47. 1 John 3:14
We know that we have passed over out of death into Life by the fact that we love the brethren (our fellow Christians). He who does not love abides (remains, is held and kept continually) in [spiritual] death.
1 John 3:13-15 (in Context) 1 John 3 (Whole Chapter)
48. 3 John 1:5
Beloved, it is a fine and faithful work that you are doing when you give any service to the [Christian] brethren, and [especially when they are] strangers.
3 John 1:4-6 (in Context) 3 John 1 (Whole Chapter)
49. Jude 1:3
Beloved, my whole concern was to write to you in regard to our common salvation. [But] I found it necessary and was impelled to write you and urgently appeal to and exhort [you] to contend for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints [the faith which is that sum of Christian belief which was delivered verbally to the holy people of God].
Jude 1:2-4 (in Context) Jude 1 (Whole Chapter)
50. Revelation 22:17
The [Holy] Spirit and the bride (the church, the true Christians) say, Come! And let him who is listening say, Come! And let everyone come who is thirsty [who is painfully conscious of his need of those things by which the soul is refreshed, supported, and strengthened]; and whoever [earnestly] desires to do it, let him come, take, appropriate, and drink the water of Life without cost.
Revelation 22:16-18 (in Context) Revelation 22 (Whole Chapter)
Andrew
Noooo Andrew go read this
Done with excavating doctrines on who is who and who is what and whatever it means. I have learned enough about what man thinks and did. All the matters here is the Bible as the doctrine of God.
Matthew 15:9
Uselessly do they worship Me, for they teach as doctrines the commands of men.
Colossians 2:22
Referring to things all of which perish with being used. To do this is to follow human precepts and doctrines.
1 Timothy 4:1
BUT THE [Holy] Spirit distinctly and expressly declares that in latter times some will turn away from the faith, giving attention to deluding and seducing spirits and doctrines that demons teach,
Titus 1:9
He must hold fast to the sure and trustworthy Word of God as he was taught it, so that he may be able both to give stimulating instruction and encouragement in sound (wholesome) doctrine and to refute and convict those who contradict and oppose it [showing the wayward their error].
Titus 2:1
BUT [as for] you, teach what is fitting and becoming to sound (wholesome) doctrine [the character and right living that identify true Christians].
2 Peter 2:1
BUT ALSO [in those days] there arose false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among yourselves, who will subtly and stealthily introduce heretical doctrines (destructive heresies), even denying and disowning the Master Who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
2 John 1:10
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine [is disloyal to what Jesus Christ taught], do not receive him [do not accept him, do not welcome or admit him] into [your] house or bid him Godspeed or give him any encouragement.
Now how do you explain this? Here is proof that Billy Graham is heretic and Involved with the Catholics. Don’t forget to look at the photo with BG and the Pope. link below.
Billy Graham, Catholicism and Apostasy
Billy Graham praises the pope, a man who allows himself to be called God (see Blasphemy 101)
When Billy Graham was on the Phil Donahue show on 10-11-79, he said that pope John Paul II was someone that he could quote with “some real authority.” He also said that the world was looking for a spiritual leader and that the pope didn’t pull any punches. [Lord have mercy, Jesus]
For a newspaper clipping showing Graham praising the pope as “almost an evangelist”, click here.
Billy Graham receives honorary degree from Catholic college
Billy Graham received an honorary doctorate from Catholic priests at Belmont Abbey College in 1967. He called it, “a time when Protestants and Catholics could meet together and greet each other as brothers, whereas 10 years ago they could not”. He joked around, “I’m not sure but what this could start me being called “Father Graham”.
(“Belmont Abbey Confers Honorary Degree,” Paul Smith, Gazette staff reporter, The Gastonia Gazette, Gastonia, North Carolina, Nov. 22, 1967).
Billy Graham turns Catholic converts back to Catholic religion
These poor people come forward to receive Christ but when the Billy Graham counsellors get to ’em they turn them back over to Catholic priests–keeping them in the same system of bondage!
In 1957, Graham said, “Anyone who makes a decision at our meetings is seen later and referred to a local clergyman, Protestant, Catholic, or Jewish.” (San Francisco News).
According to The Florida Catholic (Sept. 1983) 600 people were turned over to the Catholic religion as a result of the Orlando crusade.
At Billy Graham’s 1984 Vancouver, British Columbia crusade, the vice-chairman of the organizing committee said, “If a Catholic steps forward there will be no attempt to convert them and their names will be given to the Catholic church nearest their homes” (Vancouver Sun, Oct. 5, 1984). [Lord, have mercy!]
Billy Graham even had a Catholic priest SUPERVISE the 6,600 counselors for the Denver crusade. Information on the hundreds of Catholics who came forward were sent to a Catholic organization in Denver. (Wilson Ewin, Evangelism: The Trojan Horse of the 1990s).
An ecumenical advisor to the Catholic religion noted in 1989 that “Those who come forward for counseling during a mission evening in June, if they are Roman Catholic, will be directed to a Roman Catholic ‘nurture-group’ under Roman Catholic counselors in their home area” (John Ashbrook, New Neutralism II, Mentor, Ohio: Here I Stand Books, 1992, p. 35).
The Catholic archdiocese in Portland, Oregon, set a goal to supply 6,000 of the 10,000 counselors needed for the Graham crusade. All Catholics responding to the altar call were channeled to the Catholic religion. These are just a few examples of many.
Billy Graham thinks that infants can become Christian through baptism
But the Bible says that by the works of the flesh shall no man be justified. Baptism comes after faith in Jesus Christ. Look what Billy Graham told the Lutheran Standard in October 1967,
“I do believe that something happens at the baptism of an infant… we cannot fully understand the mysteries of God, but I believe that a miracle can happen in these children so that they are regenerated, that is, MADE CHRISTIAN, THROUGH INFANT BAPTISM.”
Billy Graham don’t believe hell is literal fire
“…I think people have a hard time believing God is going to allow people to burn in literal fire forever. I think the fire that is mentioned in the Bible is a burning thirst for God that can never be quenched.”
The Orlando (Florida) Sentinel for April 10, 1983
Hell ain’t based on our human reasoning. According to Matthew’s gospel, it was created for the devil and his angels, but people that reject Jesus Christ will be up in there too.
Billy Graham let apostate Catholic Bishop bless new converts
In 1962, a Roman Catholic bishop of Sao Paulo, Brazil, blessed the people that came forward at the invitation. (Daily Journal, International Falls, Minnesota, Oct. 29, 1963, cited by the New York Times, Nov. 9, 1963).
Those poor people came to Graham for help and he let an idolator bless them. Has he not read that behind every idol is a devil? Yet he let that man “bless” the people of God.
Billy Graham befriends heretics
Based on what I’ve read, this apparently is not an uncommon practice by Billy Graham. In 1959, he had the liberal Bishop James A. Pike lead in prayer at one of his events. Yet Pike said in an episcopal letter: “Religious myth is one of the avenues of faith and has an important place in the communication of the Gospel.” He called the garden of Eden a myth and said, “The virgin birth… IS A MYTH which churchmen should be free to accept or reject…”
What I’ve supplied here don’t even touch the tip of the iceberg of Billy Graham’s cozy relationships with heretics.
Billy Graham gives stamp of approval on practically every Bible version that comes out
In fact, I cut out one of his endorsements for the “New Living Translation.” He says, “…I am pleased to recommend the New Living Translation for even greater readability and accuracy.” The authorized King James is highly readable and pinpoint accurate. People been getting saved by reading the authorized King James and they’ve been growing in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ through it. There is no need for another “translation.” But the devil will keep ’em coming.
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/billy.htm
I can hardly believe that this article was actually written by a Professor. There is a lot of false information mixed with correct information.
First of all, it is not advisable to state: “Calvinists believe…”. As any movement, Calvinism is so diversified that you cannot make a statement like that. You need to name proponents of the said statement. It will not be easy to find such, since the argument seems to go against Hyper-Calvinism. I don’t know of any Calvinist today who would subscribe to the interpretation of the Five points that are given by the author here. His interpretation which seemingly is a statement of “Calvinistic belief” is in fact a distorted picture of what Calvinists hold to be true. Just a quick overview
1. Total depravity: Every Calvinist I know of (both historical and modern-time) makes a clear distinction between Moral inability and physical inability. Nobody says that non-Christians cannot make a free decision. They are not tied to the spot so that they cannot move towards God, even though they may want to. Rather, people do not WANT to come to Christ. And they cannot change their misguided free will. It is set upon the wrong things and is in desperate need of salvation.
2. Unconditional election: This does not mean that God overrides the human will and forces those, who do not want to come to him to come or forbids those who want to come to draw near. Rather, it means that there is nothing inherent in us that influences God to elect us or not. It is a FREE grace that saves us and not a grace that sees something in us that it considers to be worthy of salvation and then on that account acts on our behalf.
3. limited atonement: All Calvinists I know of state clearly that Christ’s suffering is sufficient for all, but efficient only for the elect. Meaning: Everybody can benefit from Christ’s death, but only those who are saved, actually do.
4. Irresistible Grace: I advise every reader to read what John Piper says about this one (and the other points as well), at [link removed.] He states it like this: Whenever someone sees the glory of God in the face of Christ, the view is so beautiful that he simply cannot resist and is converted.
5. Perseverance of the Saints: The difference between general ARminian belief and general Calvinistic belief is in theory only. Arminians see people backslide and say: They have lost their salvation. Calvinists see people backslide and say: This shows that the person was not born again in the first place. It does not make any difference practically. Whoever does not live as a Christian is not saved.
That much for now. Please, people, do your research properly. Don’t read what Arminians say about Calvinists and then think that this is true. Don’t read what Calvinists read about Arminians and think that this is true. Read the guys themselves, all the good old books are free on the internet, from both Arminians and Calvinists. Read them all, benefit from both of them. Beware of condemning things that nobody ever stated or that are not understood properly.
Be blessed,
Achim
Achim Rieger
You are more than welcome to contact Prof. Johan Malan from the link at his website.
http://www.bibleguidence.co.za
You can then tell Prof Malan all about your concerns and i’m sure he will gladly answer you and set your concerns at ease.
Naah no thank you, but it is a bad advise John Piper is not safe and thanks but no thanks. You can support him if you like. But take heed and read more on this blog about John Piper, Im only giving you one to read about but you can navigate further on the blog and also find His close ties to Rick Warren and decide if you want to follow false teachers false teachings.
Read this for starters please – John-piper-taking-leave-and-asks-for-forgiveness
This is a Discernment blog and not to a place to advertise false teachers from.
Achim Rieger
No more bad advise please!!!
I can asure you all the research on this blog is done based on facts and done in a Biblical way at all times.
You need to do some more research about DISCERNMENT Achim if you trust People like John Piper and Rick Warren you are having discernment problems.
Read your Bible please!!!
Achim, my head is still swimming from the spin you have put on Calvisist/Reformed doctrine. I have studied the TULIP and what Calvinists say about it and never have I seen your version or explanation. At least they are honest and are not deceiving themselves about what they belief and are not twisting it into something it isn’t. You can’t have it both ways.
Burning Lamp
I eco your words.
Achim Rieger
Nope not so you seem mixed up in something that makes our heads spin here. As Burning Lamp says your version seems deceiving and twisted.
Read your Bible Please.
Achim Rieger
Nooooooooooooo Read your Bible Achim. We can only read these people if we know how to Discern and test as the Scripture tells us.
Test everything – a Christian perspective
Christians aren’t to automatically accept every claim that is made by somebody supposedly speaking for God. The Bible is clear that we are to test every claim we hear against Scripture; if it contradicts something taught by Scripture, we should steer clear.
http://www.gospel.com/bookmarks/Test-everything-Christian-perspective/10850
1 Thessalonians 5:21 (Amplified Bible)
21But test and prove all things [until you can recognize] what is good; [to that] hold fast.
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“Test” in the Bible: 1 John 4:1-6
Not everything that claims to speak for God is trustworthy. Followers of Christ must discern carefully any person or source that claims such authority, checking those claims against what Scripture teaches. If a claim doesn’t pass this test, we should steer clear.
1 John 4:1-6 (Amplified Bible)
1BELOVED, DO not put faith in every spirit, but prove (test) the spirits to discover whether they proceed from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the world.
2By this you may know (perceive and recognize) the Spirit of God: every spirit which acknowledges and confesses [the fact] that Jesus Christ (the Messiah) [actually] has become man and has come in the flesh is of God [has God for its source];
3And every spirit which does not acknowledge and confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh [but would [a]annul, destroy, [b]sever, disunite Him] is not of God [does not proceed from Him]. This [[c]nonconfession] is the [spirit] of the antichrist, [of] which you heard that it was coming, and now it is already in the world.
4Little children, you are of God [you belong to Him] and have [already] defeated and overcome them [the agents of the antichrist], because He Who lives in you is greater (mightier) than he who is in the world.
5They proceed from the world and are of the world; therefore it is out of the world [its [d]whole economy morally considered] that they speak, and the world listens (pays attention) to them.
6We are [children] of God. Whoever is learning to know God [progressively to perceive, recognize, and understand God by observation and experience, and to [e]get an ever-clearer knowledge of Him] listens to us; and he who is not of God does not listen or pay attention to us. By this we know (recognize) the Spirit of Truth and the spirit of error.
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Trustworthy – a Christian perspective
In 1 Timothy, Paul gives us a trustworthy saying. He tells us that we must be in constant training in order to be godly. Godliness doesn’t just help us out in this life, or in the next life, but in both.
http://www.gospel.com/bookmarks/Trustworthy-Christian-perspective/9736
1 Timothy 4:7-10 (Amplified Bible)
7But refuse and avoid irreverent legends (profane and impure and godless fictions, mere grandmothers’ tales) and silly myths, and express your disapproval of them. Train yourself toward godliness (piety), [keeping yourself spiritually fit].
8For physical training is of some value (useful for a little), but godliness (spiritual training) is useful and of value in everything and in every way, for it holds promise for the present life and also for the life which is to come.
9This saying is reliable and worthy of complete acceptance by everybody.
10With a view to this we toil and strive, [yes and] [a]suffer reproach, because we have [fixed our] hope on the living God, Who is the Savior (Preserver, Maintainer, Deliverer) of all men, especially of those who believe (trust in, rely on, and adhere to Him).
What a load of misrepresentations. The author of this article knows nothing of calvinism. No wonder, as he seems to get much of his material from Dave Hunt.
Salvatore
So I am guessing you are a full on Calvinist. Why must everything come from Dave Hunt? There are thousands possibly millions of other people out there who can think too and have discovered that Calvinism is heretical.
Deborah,
I prefer to be called a Christian, rather than a Calvinist. I am convinced that the “5 points” of Calvinism are biblical teachings. So, it would be accurate hang the label on me. Nonetheless I reject the “Calvinism” presented in this article. It is an inaccurate presentation. It is no virtue to tell lies in service to the truth.
Salvatore the Chosen
If you say so…..
Deborah the Sinner saved by Grace
I think that the article is a bit misleading in terms of explaining calvinism; however i would like some of the noncalvinists to explain some scripture:
John 1:12-13But as many as received him, to them GAVE he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Says He (God) gave them the power to become sons of God. Also It is not of the will of the flesh.
Joh 2:23-25 Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, during the feast, many believed on his name, beholding his signs which he did. (24) But Jesus did not trust himself unto them, for that he knew all men, (25) and because he needed not that any one should bear witness concerning man; for he himself knew what was in man.
Jesus didn’t trust himself to them because he knew their hearts, so it wasn’t based off of their choice but his knowledge.
Joh 6:37-40 All that which the Father giveth me shall come unto me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. (38) For I am come down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. (39) And this is the will of him that sent me, that of all that which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. (40) For this is the will of my Father, that every one that beholdeth the Son, and believeth on him, should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Followed by: Joh 6:43-44 Jesus answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves. (44) No man can come to me, except the Father which sent me draw him: and I will raise him up in the last day.
So no one can come to Jesus without the drawing of the father.
Joh 6:65 And he said, For this cause have I said unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it be given unto him of the Father.
Rom 8:29-30 For whom he foreknew, he also foreordained to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren: (30) and whom he foreordained, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Foreknowledge is not just knowing information it is an intimate knowledge as in a husband and wife type of knowledge. And foreordained aka predestination comes before being called.
Rom 9:18-23 So then he hath mercy on whom he will, and whom he will he hardeneth. (19) Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he still find fault? For who withstandeth his will? (20) Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why didst thou make me thus? (21) Or hath not the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? (22) What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering vessels of wrath fitted unto destruction: (23) and that he might make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he afore prepared unto glory,
Who are we to disagree with God’s Election?
Rom 11:28-29 As touching the gospel, they are enemies for your sake: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sake. (29) For the gifts and the calling of God are without repentance.
The gifts and calling of God are without repentance aka irrevocable
Eph 1:3-14 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ: (4) even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love: (5) having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (6) to the praise of the glory of his grace, which he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved: (7) in whom we have our redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, (8) which he made to abound toward us in all wisdom and prudence, (9) having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he purposed in him (10) unto a dispensation of the fulness of the times, to sum up all things in Christ, the things in the heavens, and the things upon the earth; in him, I say, (11) in whom also we were made a heritage, having been foreordained according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his will; (12) to the end that we should be unto the praise of his glory, we who had before hoped in Christ: (13) in whom ye also, having heard the word of the truth, the gospel of your salvation,––in whom, having also believed, ye were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, (14) which is an earnest of our inheritance, unto the redemption of God’s own possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Talks of Predestination before the foundation of the world according to God’s will and being sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise aka you cant lose your salvation.
Eph 2:8-10 for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: (9) not of works, that no man should glory. (10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God afore prepared that we should walk in them.
Grace through faith which is not from you! It is all from God the faith and the grace! God afore prepared aka God Prepared beforehand.
Php 2:12-13 So then, my beloved, even as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; (13) for it is God which worketh in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure.
Work out your salvation – it is God who wills and works in us.
2Th 2:11-17 And for this cause God sendeth them a working of error, that they should believe a lie: (12) that they all might be judged who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (13) But we are bound to give thanks to God alway for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, for that God chose you from the beginning unto salvation in sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: (14) whereunto he called you through our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. (15) So then, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye were taught, whether by word, or by epistle of ours. (16) Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God our Father which loved us and gave us eternal comfort and good hope through grace, (17) comfort your hearts and stablish them in every good work and word.
Notice that God sends the working of error that they may believe the lies and also that God chose from the beginning those for sanctification and belief of the truth.
There are many other verses and passages that support the doctrines of Grace. Please expound on these passages and verses and also explain to me what election means to you as a non-calvinist.
Ross, you are complicating what is really a very simple matter. Calvinism boils down to the 5 “petals” of TULIP. Pick any one of them and to support it Scripture has to be taken out of context. Every one of them twists scripture and distorts the character of God. The only one that has an element of truth is P but is based on a false premise. And just because one is not Calvinist does not mean they are Arminian.
Predestination and election do not refer to certain people of the world becoming saved or lost, but they relate to those who are already children of God in respect to certain privileges or positions out ahead. They look forward to what God will work in those who have become His own. This is seen in the works of a number of outstanding men of God.
H.A. Ironside best explains the view of those walking between the ditches of Calvinism and Armenianism. He showed the limited use of that term (predestination) in the Bible. “Turn to your Bible and read for yourself in the only two chapters in which this word predestinate or predestinated is found. The first is Romans 8:29-30, the other chapter is Ephesians 1:5 and 11. You will note that there is no reference in these four verses to either heaven or hell but to Christ-likeness eventually. Nowhere are we told in scripture that God predestinated one man to be saved and another to be lost. Men are to be saved or lost eternally because of their attitude towards the Lord Jesus Christ. Predestination means that someday all the redeemed shall become just like the Lord Jesus.
I hope this is helpful.
Ross, you asked about the “non-Calvinist” view of election.
The following explains:
Definition of Election
Election is a divine act of God, whereby God, for reasons known only to himself, in the blessing of mankind, sets to one side all firsts, and chooses all seconds.
Romans 9:11
11.(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth 😉
Now we will turn from the proposition of the subject of Election to the problem of Election. Please remember that the subject of Election has its difficulties. This is why there is so much ignorance and misunderstanding of the subject.
II. Problem of Election
Election is one of the unique subjects referred to by the Apostle Paul in Romans 9. This chapter does not teach in its completeness, the subject of Election, it is only referred to in this chapter in verse 11. Election is not God choosing or electing some to be saved and some to be lost. To say that God chooses some to be saved and some to be lost is nothing more or less than hearsay, and is charging God with doing something that he can not do, because he has provided salvation for every man. To say that God has chosen or elected some to be lost, would limit the atonement of Jesus Christ. That is one of the duties of the Devil to try to limit the work of Christ on the cross. It labels God as a respecter of persons, and that leads one to believe that the Holy Spirit only deals with certain people, that is those who are chosen or elected to be saved; and that the Spirit of God never deals with others. If God chose people for heaven or elected them to be saved, and others were chosen for hell or were elected to be lost, then Christ’s death was not for all mankind.
Certain ones tell us that God chooses some to eternal life and some to eternal damnation. Does Romans 9:11 teach this? By no manner of means does this verse bear this out that God has elected some to heaven and some to hell. On the contrary, this verse tells us about the purpose of God according to Election. Now notice Romans 9:12.
12. It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
Now it is normal to expect that such words spoken for so definite a purpose would contain some hint or indication of the purpose of God according to Election? It is, “The elder shall serve the younger.” The first born serves younger. The greater shall serve the lesser. God set to one side the elder or the first and chose the second, or the younger through whom the blessing would come. Now, I want you to notice the portions that are misapplied and misunderstood about the subject of Election.
III. The Portions Misapplied
A. Does Romans 9 :15-18 teach some are elected to salvation and some do damnation?
Those who believe that God has elected some to salvation and some to damnation, would say that if there were two brothers in a family, one a believer and the other unbeliever; that God had mercy and compassion on the one who was saved, but that He did not show any mercy or compassion on the one who was unsaved, should he die in that state. God’s actions are not based alone on his Foreknowledge but are based in the back ground of his attribute of love. If you will notice in Romans 9: 18 it says in that verse, “therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy.”
Therefore, they would say that if the unconverted brother would die in his sin, God did not have mercy on him. That is a false view of the teaching of this verse. All the truth concerning the attitude of God toward unsaved man is not to be found in one verse. Romans 9: 18 is not the whole of the Bible, neither does it teach all about the mercy of God toward the children of men. What does this verse teach? Is there any hint as to whom God will have mercy upon? If you turn to Romans 11:32 there will be some light on the truths concerning God and those who are the objects of His mercy. Romans 11: 32 tells us:
32. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Now how many are the objects and recipients of God’s mercy? The text clearly tells us that he has mercy upon all. God does not only have mercy on a few but His mercy is expanded until it reaches all men. God has mercy upon all men and His mercy upon all is according to Romans 11:32. Whom does he harden? Romans 9:17.
17. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Those who purposely harden themselves against God. God had mercy upon Pharaoh and that mercy was extended to Pharaoh even while hardening his heart. God’s mercy is upon all. Do not limit it to a few.
B. Does Romans 9: 22, 23 teach that God has elected some for salvation and some for condemnation ?
Let us turn to that portion found in Romans 9: 22, 23.
22. What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much long-suffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23. And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
Now notice verse 22 speaks about vessels of wrath fitted to destruction. It is error to teach that these words refer to limited atonement by saying that God has fitted some people for destruction. Away with such trash ! God never fitted any man for destruction. God never fitted any one to be destroyed. It is the Devil who has fitted them for destruction. God endured with much long suffering the vessels who yielded themselves to the Devil. Satan made them vessels of wrath and prepared them for hell.
C. Notice Acts 13: 48.
48. And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
Now, does this verse teach that God has ordained some folks to believe and some not to believe ? Does this verse teach that some are ordained to be saved and some are ordained to be lost ? Notice the context. It teaches that Barnabas and Paul had been preaching the gospel to the Jews. The Jews refused to respond to their ministry. These two servants of the Lord turned from ministering to the Jews for the time being and turned their faces toward the Gentiles. Now the context of this passage shows us that God is turning the ministry of these men from the Jews toward the Gentiles. This was in God’s plan. He wanted the Gentiles to hear the gospel. This text does not teach that God had planned to save just a few of these Gentiles on that occasion. Offering salvation to all Gentiles, some of the Gentiles believed that day what the Jews had rejected.
I believe that it is Dr. Gaebelein in his book on Acts, says, “The Gentiles who were disposed to eternal life believed.” I believe that this is the thought of the passage in the light of the context. The Jews were turning from the Lord and rejecting the truth, so the Lord turns with the offer to the Gentiles. Those Gentiles who were willing to receive salvation, and whose minds were open to the truth, were ready to believe. It is true God had planned to turn to the Gentiles, but not to just a few individuals, as are represented here. This group happened to be a few of the Gentiles who were present, and believed and were saved.
In Romans 9: 13 we read:
13. As it is written. Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
God did not say this before they were born. This statement was recorded in the last book the Old Testament. Malachi 1: 2, 3. Notice the phrase there in Romans 9:13, “As it is written”. It is recorded or written back in the book of Malachi. What have we there recorded? God’s hatred toward Esau and his descendants. Why did God hate Esau and his descendants? It was because of their continued wickedness and idolatry. This does not refer to individual men (Jacob and Esau), but to the nations which sprang of their loins.
Since Esau and his descendants stand for flesh, God hates the whole nation of Edom. Israel stands for the spiritual. God loves the whole nation for what they represent. Now, as to the salvation of any Edomite or Israelite, the pathway was the same. It was by believing.
IV. The People Who Are Elected
Nowhere in the Bible is Election connected with the salvation or the damnation of a human soul. Who are the elect ? They are the saved people. His favored ones. Israel in the Old Testament is God’s elect. Isaiah 46:3, 4.
3. And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.
4. For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
The Church which is his body, in the New Testament. Romans 8:33.
33. Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth.
In the Tribulation they are Jews or the 144,000. Matthew 24:22-24.
22. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
23. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
This rank, this favor, this privilege. is shown to those people not before they are saved, but after. The word Election occurs 27 times in the Bible, and is used in connection with God’s people. A few times it is used relative to the Lord Jesus Christ.
V. The Purpose of Election
The purpose of Election is the setting to one side of all that pertains to the flesh, (everything that has to do with carnality) and establishing everything that has to do with the spiritual. The most important phase of Election pertains to service. Romans 9:11, 12. “The elder shall serve”. Election has nothing to do with a man’s salvation, neither has it anything to do with his condemnation. The purpose of Election then, is that the first shall become subservient and serve the second. It has to do with Service. It is God’s elect who serve Him.
VI. The Principles of Election
For the principles of Election, let us turn to some illustrations that are set forth in the Word of God. Notice Hebrews 10:9,
9. Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
Now we are all familiar with this portion of the Word of God. The closing phrase in verse 9, “He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second”. Election is a divine act of God whereby God sets to one side all firsts and chooses all seconds. You notice that this is what God is doing according to the teaching of this verse. There were many offerings and sacrifices in the Old Testament, and they were called the “First”, because they were in the Jewish economy. God set them to one side at the beginning of the dispensation that we now live in, which is the dispensation of the body of Christ. It was the will of God to set the first to one side and choose for the blessing of mankind, the sacrifice and offering of Christ. Now, let us turn to another illustration of the principle of Election. Notice what it says in Hebrews 8:6-7,
6. But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
In verse 7 you read,
7. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
You also notice in Hebrews 8:13,
13. In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
We find these verses teaching that God has set to one side the first covenant and has established a second one, which he made between himself and his son. Election is a divine act of God, whereby God, for reasons known only to Himself, in the blessing of mankind, sets to one side all firsts and chooses all seconds. He sets to one side the first covenant in the Old Testament economy and chooses the second. Now, notice the principle, being worked out in our own bodies. I Corinthians 15 :38
38, But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him. and to every seed his own body.
Notice verse 38, “God giveth it a body- to-every seed his own body”.
Verse 42:
42. So also in the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption.
Verse 44:
44. It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual ‘body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
So it is written, in verse 45,
45. The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Verse 47:
47. The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from Heaven.
Election is a divine act of God whereby God, for reasons known only to Himself in the blessing of mankind, sets to one side all firsts. and chooses all seconds. We also have a clear illustration of the principles of Election in 2Peter 3:10-13. Keep in mind our definition of Election that God is setting to one side all firsts, and is choosing all seconds. We see him here not only setting to one side but, completely destroying the first earth as the abode for eternal blessings. If he declares. in verses 10-12,
10. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise. and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein – shall be burned up.
11. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness.
12. Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Then in verse 13, we notice the first promise and establishment of the new heavens and the new earth. That is just another one of the evidences of the principles of Election, The outstanding picture of the principles of Election is seen in Genesis 48 :8-20. Notice carefully that Israel blessed Joseph’s two boys, Ephraim was the younger and Manasseh was the elder. In order for the father to put his right hand on Ephraim who was the younger. he had to cross his hands or arms, thereby making a cross. Here is a picture of how we obtain the favors of God’s elective principles. It is by the cross. The old man typical of the old life, (Adam’s race) is set aside and the new life in Christ is established as he lays his right hand upon the younger. Because of the cross, we are favored of God. In order to be one of God’s elect you must come by the way of the cross.
To clarify, the above states the position correctly in my view but I differ on the KJV only stance.
In your first post you assume that i think all noncalvinists are arminian and i never made such assumption. I only wanted to know what election meant to you or anyone who holds to a noncalvinist view.
God does show mercy,
Definition of Election
Election is a divine act of God, whereby God, for reasons known only to himself, in the blessing of mankind, sets to one side all firsts, and chooses all seconds.
What does this even mean?
“B. Does Romans 9: 22, 23 teach that God has elected some for salvation and some for condemnation ?
Let us turn to that portion found in Romans 9: 22, 23.
22. What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much long-suffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23. And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
Now notice verse 22 speaks about vessels of wrath fitted to destruction. It is error to teach that these words refer to limited atonement by saying that God has fitted some people for destruction. Away with such trash ! God never fitted any man for destruction. God never fitted any one to be destroyed. It is the Devil who has fitted them for destruction. God endured with much long suffering the vessels who yielded themselves to the Devil. Satan made them vessels of wrath and prepared them for hell.”
Where is the mention of satan in these verses? Clearly the verses mention pharaoh as being hardened to show God’s Power.
Rom 9:18-24 So then he hath mercy on whom he will, and whom he will he hardeneth. (19) Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he still find fault? For who withstandeth his will? (20) Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why didst thou make me thus? (21) Or hath not the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? (22) What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering vessels of wrath fitted unto destruction: (23) and that he might make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he afore prepared unto glory, (24) even us, whom he also called, not from the Jews only, but also from the Gentiles?
Taken together these verses show that God does what he wills with his vessles. The most common refutation to this idea is answered by Paul(he even answers the other most objected reason as well) namely, who are we to question what God does.
God does show mercy and grace to all he extends that in General Grace when he does not immediately punish the wicked and unrepentant right when they sin and the same for Christians who sin.
IV. The People Who Are Elected
Nowhere in the Bible is Election connected with the salvation or the damnation of a human soul. Who are the elect ? They are the saved people. His favored ones. Israel in the Old Testament is God’s elect. Isaiah 46:3, 4.
Notice the person says that election is not associated with the salvation or the damnation of the human soul, but right after says they are the saved people; clearly he just contradicted himself with this statement as election is always pared with the salvation of a soul.
Finally, please read some of the other passages that i posted, they are from all over the Bible and there are plenty of others that i didnt post, clearly the truth of a doctrine is found in the consistency of scripture and these texts clearly show that God is active in the salvation of a soul.
Also according to a non-calvinists viewpoint how is man saved? Is it all God, Part Man and Part God,or fully Man?
Ross
You said:
Notice the person says that election is not associated with the salvation or the damnation of the human soul, but right after says they are the saved people; clearly he just contradicted himself with this statement as election is always pared (sic) with the salvation of a soul.
Of course the elected are the saved. Elect doesn’t mean they were elected or handpicked for salvation. It simply refers to the group of people, the Church who are saved, those who have chosen to give their life to Christ. In othere words, it refers to a corporate group, not individuals. There is no contradiction.
You said:
Also according to a non-calvinists viewpoint how is man saved? Is it all God, Part Man and Part God,or fully Man?
All of humanity is given a measure of faith according to the Bible so none are without excuse. Salvation comes through the hearing of the Word the Bible says – it is a cooperative transation between God and man. God desires all to be saved. When the Word goes out, the Holy Spirit convicts the individual and the individual can either accept or reject the Gospel message. God is the Author and Finisher of salvation. Man cannot be saved without the conviction of the Holy Spirit, but God has given man free reign to make a decision. God did not create puppets – He wants us to serve Him because we love Him. There is a cost to committment to Christ. It takes a conscious decision on man’s part. God made the plan – I repeat, He is the Author and Finisher of salvation.
God’s character and nature have to be considered. He is fair and He is just. Salvation is open to all, but all will not receive Him. God is sovereign and He knows by His foreknowledge who will accept and who will not, but that does not mean that He pulls the strings and picks and chooses. Our finite minds can’t fully be wrapped around the mysteries of God but we know enough about the characteristics of our Lord to know He would not premptively exclude any soul from heaven or automatically send them to an eternal hell without any opportunity for salvation. That is an outright insult to our loving heavenly Father.
I pray the Lord will reveal His truth to you and that you will receive it and have it settled in your mind. Grace and Peace to you.
Thank you Prof for a great post.
One of the best I have ever read.
Maybe you should have added that he had some woman executed because he believed they caused a plaque that killed some people.
He had to try to convince himself that he could not lose his salvation because he knew he had to face his Maker one day.
If a human had to act like a Calvinist says God acts he would be send to jail.
This is the picture I get when I think of the god the Calvinist serve.
I have two sons. I send one to the Supermarket to get me something, he comes back and I am so happy that he was obedient I give him a Ferrari.
My other son who did not go to the shop, because I did not ask him to, gets nothing instead he gets punished for not going!
The problem with Calvinism is the scriptures they use to defend their false doctrine it is the ones they ignore.
Before anybody attacks me meditate on this scripture and do not make it say something it does not.
James 5:19 Brethren, if anyone AMONG YOU wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will SAVE A SOUL from death and cover a multitude of sins.
I wonder what the heresy hunters would have said about Calvin’s behaviour and doctrine if he was still around.
Burning Lamp saying that elect means the individuals who are saved. True but the very definition of Elect is :
–verb (used with object)
1.
to choose or select by vote, as for an office: to elect a mayor.
2.
to determine in favor of (a method, course of action, etc.).
3.
to pick out; choose: First-year students may elect french, spanish, or German.
4.
Theology. (of God) to select for divine mercy or favor, esp. for salvation.
–verb (used without object)
5.
to choose or select someone or something, as by voting.
–adjective
6.
selected, as for an office, but not yet inducted (usually used in combination following a noun): the governor-elect.
7.
select or choice: an elect circle of artists.
8.
Theology. chosen by god, esp. for eternal life.
–nounthe elect,
9.
a person or the persons chosen or worthy to be chosen.
10.
Theology. a person or persons chosen by God, esp. for favor or salvation.
Anyway you slice it, it refers to being picked or chosen. Denying that election doesnt mean that God chose us to go against the very definition of the word. True we cannot fathom God or his infinite ways, but his word is clear and is full of references to the elect, Israel is the very example of being the elect, they were handpicked from all the nations of the earth and even inside of the elect israel some are elected. My issue with a noncalvinist view of election is that it contradicts the meaning of election and i think that God would use a different word if he intended it to mean not being picked. Even if God does pick us that does not take away the agency that humans have, we still are called to make our election sure, as well as sin no longer. The only agency that is “removed” is that of salvation, because as you said God is the author and finisher of our salvation. If we reject election as the Bible presents it namely that God has chosen out of everyone, you specifically then we fall into the category that Paul answered as Who are we to question what God is doing, does the clay say to the potter dont mold me in that way? We are at Gods mercy and he didnt have to save any like he did with the fallen angels, but he decided to show grace to us and purchase us by his blood.
Harry
it is so obvious you are here on this blog to cause division with your comments. Just look at the commetn now at this thread.
I would like to tell you that Pof Malan will certainly not aprove of you Approving false teachers Like Angus Buchan. In fact he wrote an article about this false teacher do you know?
You said the following on (only an excerpt) : April 18th, 2010 at 7:52 pm at this thread: discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/09/the-dominionist-faith-of-angus-buchan-faith-like-potatoes-2/#comment-10805
I have just come back from MMC2010. Great to see thousands of men promising to be the watchmen of their families!!!! Thank you my Jesus for putting one man in our country who look for a solution instead of trying to get us to sit and feel sorry for ourselves and judge and condemn the people who strife to make a difference.
I see you are a few people who sit and criticise Angus.
What qualifies you to do what you do?
I can feel the love of Jesus oozing from the pages.(Ha,Ha)
I hope you are brave enough to publish this on your demonic site. (It is easy to throw names around, calling Angus a demon)
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Well Harry Please visit Prof Malan’s website there is plenty of Biblical evidence for you that your believes are unbiblical.
This is just an excerpt about what Prof Malan says about Angus Buchan for you Harry. Please read the complete article at bibleguidence.co.za
http://www.bibleguidance.co.za/Weekly/117BuchanEng.htm
Ross, dear Ross,
I do not disagree that God has His elect. But this is not an INDIVIDUAL issue, it is a GROUP issue, just as Israel is considered a GROUP and not as individuals. It is not about the definition of the word elect. It seems you can’t see the forest for the trees dear friend.
My Lord Jesus died for ALL, not preselected ones. He loved the WORLD and died for the sins of the WORLD, not a pre-selected few. To say otherwise is to blaspheme His atonement and His character.
True Israel is a group that is elected, but not every israelite was elected, there were individuals in Israel that were elected. If Christ died for the sins of everyone then why does he still punish them? If you say it is because of faith, then you have to ask where did that faith come from? Man or God, you said it yourself that God is the author and finisher of Salvation and faith is a gift of God.
2Th 2:11-17 And for this cause God sendeth them a working of error, that they should believe a lie: (12) that they all might be judged who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (13) But we are bound to give thanks to God alway for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, for that God chose you from the beginning unto salvation in sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: (14) whereunto he called you through our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. (15) So then, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye were taught, whether by word, or by epistle of ours. (16) Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God our Father which loved us and gave us eternal comfort and good hope through grace, (17) comfort your hearts and stablish them in every good work and word.
Notice that God sends the working of error that they may believe the lies and also that God chose from the beginning those for sanctification and belief of the truth.
John 2:23-25 Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, during the feast, many believed on his name, beholding his signs which he did. (24) But Jesus did not trust himself unto them, for that he knew all men, (25) and because he needed not that any one should bear witness concerning man; for he himself knew what was in man.
Do you pray for your friends or any unbelievers salvation? If you do what is your prayer? Do you pray that God would change their will?
Ross, I do pray for the salvation of unbelievers I know. I do so because intercessory prayer is spoken of throughout the Bible. If it was cut and dried who would be saved and who would not be, what would be the point of even praying?
God does raise up certain people in the various dispensations for His purposes. To use that as a reason for election to salvation is ludicrous.
The entire scope of the Word of God allows for man’s choice beginning in the Garden. The Bible is permeated with references indicating that God has given man free will.
You seem to think that God exerts His sovereignty in an unjust manner. God is not willing that ANY should perish!!!
You know the verse – if that is true, He would never send anyone to hell without giving them the opportunity to choose. That is the whole purpose of the conviction of the Holy Spirit.
What is the point of praying? Because we dont know who is saved or unsaved… and he wants us to rely on him and only on him If you pray for the unbelief and dont believe is sovereign in it then you want God to go against his will, which is clearly a contradiction to what “free will” is. THe point of the sovereignty of God is to show his glory on the flipside free will gives some of the glory to man.
How is election unjust? The punishment for sin is death… he didnt have to save any, but he extended grace to some and the rest receive justice. Some recieve grace some receive justice. THere is no unjust part in that equation. By saying God sending people to hell is unjust you are acting as if we are entitled to salvation and in doing so would not be grace.
We do have free will just not in salvation… God elects us… calls us… draws us… justifies us… sanctifies us… all him… we are called to spread his word and keep his commands. The problem with saying free will began in the garden is the part where you overlook the verses that talk about him predestining things before the foundation of the world…
Ross the Chosen
Tell me, how do you know you are one of the elect? How sure are you that when you get to stand before God He says to you, “sorry mate, but as much as you lived a holy type life and read your bible, you are not chosen.”
Also, tell me. Is the sole criteria of being Chosen vs being a Reprobate based on the fact that you are either a Calvinist (Chosen) or not a Calvinist (doomed to hell)? What’s the criteria here, please tell us.
Deborah a sinner saved by Grace.
Ok Ross the Chosen, did God cause Adam and Eve to sin?
I echo Deborah’s questions to you.
God so loved the WORLD………that includes every man, woman and child. Your mentality is beyond my comprehension. Dear brother you misunderstand the boundless love of God, that He is not willing that ANY perish!!