John MacArthur – Transformation of Grace Community Church
This information has been painstakingly put together by Bob Johnson over a period of several years. It’s shocking and I believe it’s the truth. Bob has been attacked by John MacArthur and Phil Johnson who have tried to discredit him, but the facts remain standing strong.
I am going to present this information only because I stand for the truth AT ALL COSTS. [Edited by DTW: 31 Mar 2010 – I have made a public apology too everyone I told that MacArthur is legitimate. I am very very sorry for this. I trusted MacArthur and I was deceived and I led others to believe he was ok. Every bit of credibility I gave John MacArthur I retract. I did not understand the doctrine of Calvinism at the time, now I do. Please see here for my sincerest apology: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/03/30/what-do-you-do-when]
Now before anyone gets all carried away, I am not a Calvinist. I am a born again Christian and my ‘denomination’ is what lies between the pages of the Word of God. I believe in free will and I believe that repentance of sin is an ongoing essential part of your relationship with Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. We are not predestined, or elected by God before the foundation of the world (for biblical predestination understanding please see What it Really Means to be Elected, Chosen, and Predestinated – The Biblical Truth); I won’t even get onto the topic of John Calvin as that’s another story all on it’s own and Calvinism has it’s roots in Rome.
Are there people who are genuinely saved under GCC – Absolutely, when they find out the truth as to what Calvinism is all about, they will leave there sooner or later. God knows our hearts. He knows what we think, He knows what we believe, He knows everything about us. I believe we are all judged on what we know up to a certain point in time. (I am NOT talking about sin here, or using this as an excuse to say, “oh I never accepted Jesus, because I didn’t know anything, or no one told me.) Because the Bible commands you to study to find yourself approved anyhow, so no one has any excuse. And if you have the Holy Spirit in your life you will never get something so wrong or believe and follow something so wrong as the doctrine of Calvinism and the fruit of John MacArthur speaks for itself.Now when the Holy Spirit reveals to us what’s really going on behind the scenes, this is when we are now faced with a massive decision of “should I stay or should I go” – will you accept the false teachings that are slithering its way in, or will I stand firm on the Word of God and warn others about what is happening and get out because you will not tolerate men insulting Jesus Christ! When the Holy Spirit has warned you, you can’t ever say to Jesus one day, “I didn’t know”, because you did know, but you CHOSE (free will) TO IGNORE IT. And in doing so you continued to stay and support ungodly doctrines.
Even if John MacArthur carried on preaching what sounded like the greatest gospel from the pulpit (which we know is not because it’s Calvinistic) – he will slowly but surely lead his congregation astray more and more astray as he turns to Rome along with every other denomination in these end times.
Will his preaching start to change? Will it become a more emergent gospel? It appears has as he is embracing contemplative spirituality for some time: John MacArthur and Dallas Willard – Two Contemplating Calvinists
Does John MacArthur have to make a choice like the rest of us to follow Jesus Christ 100% or follow Satan instead? Absolutely.
We ALL sit in the same position. Jesus Christ is LORD, He is our KING, He judges ALL, NO ONE gets an ‘immunity card’ from GOD.
Ok let’s get onto the info shall we…
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The Transformation of John Macarthur’s Grace Community Church
How Change Agents are Transitioning GCC into the New World Order
Introduction –
by Bob Johnson On January 2, 2005,
John MacArthur gave a sermon to his congregation in which he described the state of his church. In that sermon John MacArthur stated, “I feel like part of the ministry I must discharge before the Lord and you is a ministry of warning about danger. Our church is not in particular danger from some dominating iniquity. It is not in particular danger from some infiltrating heresy. It is not in danger from some loss of resources financially or human. Everything you can see on the surface looks to be good. And we would have every reason to think we stand, and still be on the brink of a fall.”
John MacArthur said that his church was not in particular danger from infiltrating heresy. This paper will show that a dangerous heresy has infiltrated his church; a heresy known generally as the church growth movement. And this paper will show that this movement, being backed by globalists and being used to fulfill their one-world agenda, is now manipulating GCC into that same agenda.
John MacArthur said that his church is not in danger from some dominating iniquity.This paper will show that John MacArthur, being the dominant figure in his church, by disobeying the doctrine of separation, has allowed men to speak at his church and has allowed men to occupy leadership positions in his church, who, professing to be Christians, are actually dedicated to this one-world agenda.
John MacArthur said that everything you can see on the surface of his church looks to be good. I have been to his church, and I have attended his ministries, and I didn’t have to look beyond the surface to see that everything there is not good. I didn’t have to look beyond the surface of his church in order to see the presence of the Purpose Driven Church (PDC) model or the dialectic sessions employed by that model.
Nor did I have to look beyond the surface to see that John MacArthur’s international ministry, a ministry dedicated to “training church leaders worldwide,” is a church growth organization now partnering with foreign governments.In his “state of the church” sermon, John Macarthur said that GCC could be on the brink of a fall. GCC has gone beyond that brink and has now fallen. GCC is not holy, peculiar, sanctified and set apart, but rather, is a church that has now found common ground with Satanic agents pushing the one-world agenda via the church growth movement.
Allow me, by way of introduction, to say how I became interested in the goings on at GCC. My interest in GCC began in March 2005 when a local pastor invited me to accompany him to the GCC Pastor’s Conference being held that same month. Wanting to get information about the conference, I went to the GCC website where I noticed that Dr. Albert Mohler was to be a keynote speaker. I’d never heard of Dr. Mohler.
When curiosity pressed and an internet search ended, I had discovered information about Dr. Mohler that was not in accord with his Christian profession. I had discovered that Dr. Mohler was a Founding Fellow of the “think tank” of a UN-NGO. I had discovered that a UN-NGO is a non-governmental organization that is listed with the UN and that serves the UN and its one-world agenda. And therefore, I concluded that it must necessarily follow, that Dr. Mohler, being a Founding Fellow of this UN-NGO’s “think tank” which serves the UN and its agenda, must also serve the UN agenda. (It has since been confirmed to me by a colleague of Dr. Mohler’s that all the Fellows of the “think tank” of this UN-NGO are dedicated to the principles of the charter of the UN).
Knowing that the UN agenda is satanic and knowing that this agenda includes the destruction of Biblical Christianity, I wondered why John Macarthur would invite a man dedicated to this agenda into his church and into his pulpit. Was John Macarthur aware of Dr. Mohler’s UN affiliation? (I have since learned that Dr. Mohler holds leadership positions in at least two organizations that serve the UN globalist agenda as NGO’s.)
I proceeded to write a letter to each of the members of the GCC elder board. I warned them all of Dr. Mohler’s associations. I received a reply from elder, Phil Johnson, dated March 23, 2005. Regarding Dr. Mohler’s associations, Mr. Johnson wrote, “We may not agree with all his associations, but nothing in Scripture demands that we separate from a true brother in Christ just because we may disagree with him on where he draws the circle of his own fellowship.” Is this a true statement? Is there nothing in Scripture that demands separation from a professed Christian who is affiliated with satanic evil (the UN)? Many verses in Scripture demand that Christians separate from evil and 2 Thess. 3:14 demands separation from professed Christians who are disobedient: “And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him that he may be ashamed.” Scripture does demand separation from Dr. Mohler.
Why didn’t the GCC elders seem to be alarmed by Dr. Mohler’s affiliations? Why were they willing to ignore Biblical commands in order to continue a relationship with Dr. Mohler? Being dissatisfied with the reply I’d received from the GCC elder board, I then decided to make phone calls to several other GCC pastors in order to inform them of Dr. Mohler’s UN connection. Surely, they would all be concerned. I told them all that Dr. Mohler was a Fellow of a UN-NGO. What was their response? The pastors all angrily denied this easily verifiable fact. I then decided to write letters to about ten more GCC pastors. I expressed to them my concern that Dr. Mohler was a Fellow of a UN-NGO.
I received a reply from one pastor, Rick Mclean, responding for all, who, putting himself in the position of God, told me that the information I’d given them regarding Dr. Mohler’s associations “was of no eternal consequence.” This pastor also told me to never contact them again regarding this matter. In November 2005, a member of GCC agreed to meet me for a discussion. His name was George. I had asked George during a phone conversation if he’d be willing to have a discussion with me concerning some things at GCC that I had found troubling.
Two days after agreeing to meet with me, I received an email from George informing me that our meeting couldn’t take place. He told me that after checking with his church’s authorities, those authorities had decided not to allow our meeting to take place. George also informed me that only one man at GCC would meet with me. This was the same pastor who had already written to tell me to never contact them again. The email that George sent me was cc’d or copied to this same pastor and George informed me that any future correspondence I might have with him would also be cc’d to this pastor. The GCC authorities were exercising strict control over this situation. If Dr. Mohler’s UN affiliation was “of no eternal consequence” according to pastors at GCC, then why were they taking such extraordinary measures in order to prevent the exposure of that affiliation? Why were they willing to go to such lengths in order to keep knowledge of that affiliation hidden from their church membership?
George was not allowed to meet me for a discussion in a local coffee shop. In not allowing one Christian to meet another, the GCC authorities had taken authority not given them in the Word of God. In not allowing one Christian to meet another, the GCC authorities were exercising a type of control that is cult-like. Believing the GCC authority’s behavior to be deceitful, and knowing they didn’t want Dr. Mohler’s UN affiliation exposed, I decided to do just that at their March 2006 Pastor’s Conference. With Dr. Mohler again invited to be a keynote speaker, I stood outside their church and handed out flyers to the arriving pastors. The flyer was titled “Al Mohler and the United Nations.”
The flyer basically contained 2 facts: Al Mohler was a Founding Fellow of the Research Institute (think tank) of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) and that the ERLC was a UN-NGO. How did the GCC officials respond to these flyers being handed out on the public sidewalk outside their church? A GCC pastor, Eric Bancroft, with the head of security in tow, approached me and angrily told me that my flyer contained “all lies”; he then warned me that if I was to set foot on GCC property, I’d be arrested.
When I left GCC that evening, some GCC officials followed me and with the head of security present, they photographed my car and wrote down my license plate number. What began as an effort to warn the saints at GCC about Dr. Mohler’s UN affiliation didn’t end with my threatened arrest. The GCC authorities had tried to keep Dr. Mohler’s UN affiliation hidden from their membership. I couldn’t help but wonder what else they may be hiding. “Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.”
So, I decided to take a closer look into their ministries. GCC has eight subministries listed on their website. Two of these subministries are singles ministries. In looking through these two ministry’s web pages, I began to notice the presence of certain “buzzwords” common to the Purpose Driven Church (PDC) model. I noticed that much of the language used to describe the activities of these ministries was identical to the language used in the PDC model. Being very familiar with both the “buzzwords” and structure of the PDC, I strongly suspected that these two ministries were run on that model. My suspicions were confirmed after I attended both of these ministry’s Friday night “Bible studies.”
It was then that I realized that the church growth movement (CGM)/PDC model had infiltrated GCC in at least their two singles ministries. Knowing that the PDC movement had already spread like wildfire across America’s churches and knowing that once this movement gets a foothold in a church it will spread like cancer throughout the entire church body, I knew that it was my Christian duty to warn the saints at GCC about this real danger within. In the summer of 2006, I wrote a letter intended for the Christian remnant at GCC in which I warned them of this dangerous church growth infiltration.
It was titled “A Wake Up Call to the Saints at Grace Community Church.” While standing on the sidewalk across the street, I handed out copies to the congregants as they left the church. I handed out this letter of warning for three consecutive Sundays. On the second Sunday, as I handed out the “Wake-up Call,” the police were called. A black and white unit stopped and an officer approached me and told me that they had received a call claiming that I was harassing the congregation. I was handing out my letter to Christians as they left the church. I never harassed anyone and no one had complained to me.
Why were the police called? On that same day, in what could be construed as another act of intimidation, a GCC official approached me and told me that the GCC authorities were considering a lawsuit against me. Since handing out this letter of warning, I have continued to look into the activities of various ministries at GCC and I have continued to find activity indicating the presence of the church growth movement. For example, I have seen that a GCC ministry called The Master’s Academy International (TMAI), which states that its mission is to “train church leaders worldwide,” is actually a church growth organization that is now partnering with foreign governments. (A goal of the church growth movement is to merge the church into a partnership with business and government. This is called Communitarianism.)
Later, I will describe both the leadership and the activities of TMAI in detail. Grace Community Church (GCC) [www.gracechurch.org], pastored by John MacArthur is being subverted and transformed by the church growth movement (CGM). This paper will give a description of the CGM, how it manifests itself at GCC, and how it has infiltrated GCC.
Part I
How the Church Growth Movement Manifests Itself at GCC (The Guild and The Foundry)
The Master’s Academy International (TMAI) Leadership
TMAI Leader’s Transformational Language
TMAI Training Centers
TMAI Brazil
TMAI Honduras
TMAI South Africa
TMAI New Zealand
TMAI Mexico
TMAI Russia
TMAI-Philippines
The TMAI Leadership Community
Part IV
How the Church Growth Movement Infiltrated GCC
John Macarthur’s Ecumenical Roots
WARNING! Dear sister Carolyn, the link you gave spelling out the evils of Calvinism is full of evil itself. That is why we must “dig deeper” and examine the source.
This Tim Warner may have his ducks in a row as far as Calvinism/Reformed is concerned, but he believes in Baptismal Regeneration, that water baptism saves, he does not believe in eternal security of the believer, he is a posttribber, does not believe in the Trinity, etc.
This guy is a mess! I recommend that Debs remove this link lest it cause someone to stumble.
Dear Carolyn, we all make mistakes and we are here to watch each other’s back.
Leon Petersen wrote:
Excellent lies!
Thomas Lessing (Watch and Pray / Waak en Bid) wrote:
Hi Thomas
Please point me to a comprehensive exegesis of Rom 8:28-30, and I promise I will read and consider.
To date, John MacArthur’s exegesis stands. Sound and Scriptural.
Love in Christ
Leon
Dear Leon
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We understand Calvinism all to well here at DTW and dont need the false teacher John to explain it to us.
Please see article explaining What it Really Means to be “Elected, Chosen, and Predestinated”– The Biblical Truth – See more at: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/#sthash.Pcn8eC1t.dpuf
Much love 🙂
Dear Leon
>> And here is an example of the word “blood” denoting “death”
Mat 27:24 “When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
Mat 27:25 “Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.”
The meaning here as well, is clear. His DEATH be on us, and on our children.
Pilate declares that he is innocent of the “DEATH of this Just man”
If you want to twist scripture to suit your own purposes then you will make it sound any way you want it to sound.
It is clear you deny the power of the precious blood of Jesus Christ as well.
Leon
If you give me a few hours I will give you a full exegesis of Romans 8, 9 and 10.
[Edited: There you go leon: Calvinism’s Last Stand Totally Dismantled – A look at Romans Chapters 8, 9 and 10 – See more at: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/#sthash.HqSx1Hai.dpuf%5D
Listening to MacArthur’s interpretation/explanation of God’s foreknowledge reveals him to be a master of scripture twisting. What a snow job! I hope Leon does not swallow it hook line and sinker and instead opens his mind to the truth. There is more than ample information on this site to refute the lies that are ensnaring people into this false teaching.
This should stir the righteous indignation and downright anger against the perversion of God’s Word and His character.
Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:
Axiom
Leon
>> Axiom
No Leon. This is the GREAT MYSTERY of Calvinists to twist scripture, you are masters at it.
In the video clip of MacArthur’s Calvinism – See how cleverly MacArthur exchanges the word for predestination…to “predetermined”. There is a gigantic lie right there!!!. He predestined those who he had foreknowledge of to be conformed to the righteousness of his Son. He did not predetermine them to hell.
If you believe that fallacy, then you have to ignore a great many other scriptures that flatly contradict such a preposterous notion.
Leon, you are blinded by the M of Div. Even the educated get deceived by their own foolish lies. Stand back, and see the big picture. I pray God grant you eyes to see and ears to hear.
Just listening to this clip, I can hear lie after lie. We aren’t trying to rescue God’s reputation. The Bible does that very well, if he would just read that instead of Calvin’s distortions.
Redeemed: It has taken me a bit to reply to you on this because I have too many things vying for my attention these days, but here’s a little bit of my thinking. Here’s what you wrote on June 30: “WARNING! Dear sister Carolyn, the link you gave spelling out the evils of Calvinism is full of evil itself. That is why we must “dig deeper” and examine the source.
This Tim Warner may have his ducks in a row as far as Calvinism/Reformed is concerned, but he believes in Baptismal Regeneration, that water baptism saves, he does not believe in eternal security of the believer, he is a posttribber, does not believe in the Trinity, etc.
This guy is a mess! I recommend that Debs remove this link lest it cause someone to stumble.
Dear Carolyn, we all make mistakes and we are here to watch each other’s back.”
I still haven’t had much time to look over his material so I’m not endorsing him. I did look over what he says about OSAS. He equates it with Calvinism’s perseverence of the saints, which is wrong. But I do agree with his conclusions on the Biblical view of OSAS vs apostasy from the faith through unbelief.
excerpt: “The Biblical View
Let me say at the outset, that I believe the RCC doctrine of salvation by faith plus works is a false gospel that cannot save anyone. I am convinced the Scriptures teach salvation is by God’s grace, not by our own merits. It is a free gift offered to all who believe. Salvation is gained by faith alone, and works have no part whatever in our being saved, or in maintaining our salvation.
Now, some might assume this means one can never depart from God. But this is not true. Many passages indicate true Christians can be lost. How? Through UNBELIEF. One must believe the gospel in order to be saved, and one must continue to believe the gospel to continue “in Christ.” It is as simple as that. Works don’t play any part in initial “believing,” nor do they play a part in your continued “believing.” It is initially by faith, and it continues to be by faith throughout the Christian life.
All of this is taught explicitly in Scripture. In the following series of articles, we will display the evidence for you to judge. OSAS may have some Scriptures that seem to support it. But, there are many Scriptures for which it simply cannot account. Likewise, the RCC might have a couple of verses from James that seem to support their teaching, but there are several Scriptures that flatly contradict their teaching regarding salvation. The truth can be found only by harmonising all of the Scriptures on this topic. The view presented in these articles fully preserves the idea of salvation by grace through faith, not by works. It also integrates the many warnings in Scripture against departing from God.
Salvation by grace through faith alone is at the heart of the Gospel message. While eternal life is a free gift of God’s grace, it is applied to the individual by faith. Man cannot in any way save himself, but he can access the grace of God by simply choosing to accept the offer of salvation through the blood of Christ, when he is drawn by the Holy Spirit. It is through the exercise of the will that he responds to God by faith. Faith is simply believing what God has said, and resting in that promise. A person who is saved by God’s grace through exercising faith continues to believe the Gospel throughout his Christian life. It takes no effort on our part to believe. We simply respond and surrender to the drawing of the Spirit. In fact, true faith is resting in God’s promise, not clinging to it by works of our own merit. It is obvious then, that continuing to maintain one’s faith throughout life requires no effort, but a continued resting in the finished work of Christ. Make no mistake. The warnings in God’s Word are real. For example, in John 15:1-7, Jesus repeatedly warned the disciples to continue “in Christ.” For those who do not heed the warnings, the result is to be “burned.” Many other passages include similar warnings. The early Church held this view. “For when the soul that is united with Christ forsakes its faith, it is given over to perpetual death, viz., eternal punishment.” (Hippolytus, On Daniel, vi). We come to God by faith, but it is through unbelief that one departs from God. By maintaining faith we persevere to the end. But, through unbelief we can depart from God and be eternally damned. Jesus taught that in the last days many would abandon the faith. Paul called this the “falling away.” We need to be aware of the Scriptural teaching regarding our security in Christ, because the danger of apostasy is real.”
My view agrees with this excerpt which is to say that we can fall into unbelief at any point along our walk of faith. I may differ from some of the thinking on this site in that regard, but that is my present stance and what I see in the Scriptures. I don’t believe that we can ever be lost because of stupid choices or mistakes in judgement, or even falling temporarily into sin but I do believe that if we persist in wilful sins, or unbelief once we have been convicted by the Spirit, we CAN fall away, become apostate and end up denying the Lord who bought us. You may say that we were never saved to begin with, but I say we were.
This understanding of OSAS doctrine is not a departure from the true gospel message as far as I can see(therefore not a reason to divide over or excommunicate me, I hope). It’s a question only of WHEN is unbelief acceptable and when is it unacceptable. It is never acceptable. We must continue in faith throughout our life. And as long as we live by faith in the Son of God, despite testings, trials, persecutions, temptations, stumbling, perplexities, storms, etc. He will be faithful to give us strength and help to endure to the end.
It is true that we all make mistakes and we don’t have perfect clarity. I am always grateful for a demonstration of grace and respectful debate. Thank you. And thanks for holding me up in prayer and having my best interests in mind. I know you do.
Carolyn wrote:
May I ask you a few questions?
1) What is the difference between continuous sins and temporary sins? Don’t you think both have the same devastating effect – separation from God (Isaiah 59:1-2)? If both have the same effect, then we dare not make a distinction between the two.
2) Did Eve sin wilfully or was she beguiled (enticed) to sin?
3) Would you say Solomon is in heaven? If so, why? (Remember, his sins were exceedingly wilful).
4) What did Jesus mean when He said: “But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.” (Luke 22:32). Bear in mind that He did not say “that thy lose not thy faith” or “depart from the faith” but “that thy faith FAIL not.”
5) Would you say that Jesus is praying the same prayer for us than the one He prayed for Peter? If so, why would his prayer fail to keep us on the strait and narrow when it was so successful in Peter’s behalf?
6) What did Paul mean when he said: “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.” (Php 1:6. Paul was confident in the Lord; why aren’t you?
7) How would you interpret 2 Corinthians 7:10: “For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation without regret, whereas worldly grief produces death.” (2 Co 7:10). Would you ever regret your salvation and resort to unbelief and apostasy? If not, why do you believe some other children of God would want to do such a silly thing?
Hi Thomas and Carolyn
I have moved all your comments concerning OSAS to the following article Eternal Security: NOSAS Versus OSAS (Part 1)
John Calvin partnered with the authorities of his time to do his dirty work for him – to murder his opponents. What does that tell you about Calvinists who partner with the United Nations? Oh yeah, they may not be murdering their opponents but they are surely working toward that goal. How do I know? Well this is what Fred Butler of the blog “Hip and Thigh” (with the logo “Smiting Theological Philistines with a Great Slaughter” – Judges 15:8) said to Bob Johnson in an interview he had with him called “An interview with a Crackpot.”
Now, now, don’t be surprised when Calvinists partner with Satan himself to hasten his downfall. It just shows you how these guys think. How on earth can anyone hasten the Rapture when God in his sovereign will has decided when it should take place? Calvinists boast that they are the pristine elect few who honor, revere and uphold God’s absolute sovereignty and yet they think they can overrule God’s absolute sovereingty by hastening Antichrist’s appearance on earth and hence the Rapture. Is this not perhaps the reason why John MacArthur, contrary to Calvinist doctrine, believes in the Rapture – to hasten the coming of the Antichrist?
Well , in that case, they should not only invite Albert Mohler to share their pulpit but also little anitichrists like Brian McClaren, Tony Jones, Rob Bell, Doug Paggit, and many others in the Emergent Church fold, because they have mastered the art to invite and help Antichrist to take over the world.
Furthermore, Jesus (not the Jesus of the Calvinists) said that the Antichrist is going to slaughter a multitude of believers during the Great Tribulation. Now we can understand why Calvinists would like to hasten his appearance on the earth. They are merely perpetuating their god, John Calvin’s infamous murderous and bloody history of “Smiting Theological Philistines with a Great Slaughter.”
The infamous spirit of John Calvin is still roaming the earth and “gracing” the pulpits of the Calvinists.
“I believe in free will and I believe that repentance of sin is an ongoing essential part of your relationship with Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior” so why dont you believe that jesus died and rose again for all your sins?
Thanks to the work of honest Bible students and Bible teachers and followers of Christ, we’ve found Mr. MacArthur to be an intentional liar. Since 3 years ago, we now expose him as best as we can. Thanks to your part.
http://www.incpu.org/concerns-on-JohnM.htm
http://www.incpu.org/calling-macarthur-to-repent.htm
http://www.incpu.org/jmacarthur-mason-family.htm
And this one
http://www.incpu.org/all-connected.htm
[DELETED by DTW – Awww is the Reverend upset by any chance that we dare take on the grotesque doctrine of Calvinism?]
I hope Bob is OK. Last I heard from him he had fallen ill. I hope and pray he has recovered. Does anyone have any current information concerning him? He is a highly intelligent man, who didn’t deserve the discrediting he received from JMac’s camp.
Dear Recovering Baptist
I have no idea about Bob. Yes he was lambasted for exposing JMA. But he did an excellent job and ended up sticking to his guns. I spoke to him and told him to not be intimidated (after he removed the info off the internet) – he put it back up.