Kathryn Kuhlman – The Interfaith Faith Healer

Kathryn Kuhlman

Kathryn Kuhlman – The Interfaith Faith Healer

Angus Buchan loves to mention Smith Wigglesworth as a great man of god but lately he is mentioning Kathryn Kuhlman quite a bit.  I thought I would just give a brief history of this diabolical woman.   Please read this, it’s very important you know who this woman was and how she has influenced hundreds of pastors over the years.

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“Kathryn Kuhlman was a healer who drew large crowds to her meetings. Millions came to her for help. Her meetings were attended by up to ten thousand at a time.

Kathryn was born in Concordia, sixty miles from Kansas City. Her mother was a Methodist, her father a Baptist. As a young girl, she went to a Baptist seminary and was ordained as a Baptist preacher. Her first church was in Franklin, Pennsylvania. One day some people in her congregation said that they had been healed while she was preaching. Kathryn was astonished. When such occurrences became more frequent, she began to preach about faith healing, without ceasing to put the main emphasis on the salvation of the soul. Before long, she moved from Franklin to the great city of Pittsburgh, where ever-increasing crowds flocked to her services. From 1946, she conducted an average of 125 healing meetings per year. She used the largest halls in the USA, and her healing meetings were attended by about one and a half million people each year. This figure is given by a doctor named William Nolen.

In addition to the meetings, she appeared on many radio and TV programs. The huge sums of money given as offerings have been used for building twenty-five churches, many schools and homes, and for social projects of many kinds.

First of all, I must give a brief sketch of the style of these healing meetings. After a fantastic organ prelude, Kathryn would appear on the stage dressed in a long blue or white robe. Everyone would stand up. She would say: “How glad I am to have you all here. The Holy Spirit will perform a great work among you.” The atmosphere was heightened by an introductory hymn sung by thousands of expectant people. This was followed by prayer and a short sermon. Then Kathryn would suddenly announce, “Up there in the second row of the balcony a man has just been healed of cancer. Please come down to the platform,” or “a girl in the seventeenth row has just been healed of a lung disease.” It would continue in the same way for several hours. The people who had been healed came to the platform. Kathryn would hold her hands about six inches above the head of each and pray. They then would fall backwards to the floor. Two attendants would catch them as they fell, so they would not hurt themselves. The people who had been healed would lay for ten to thirty seconds unconscious on the floor. When they stood up, they would say that they had a wonderful feeling. While I was watching, I saw even ministers falling to the floor unconscious, one of them a Catholic priest.

Kathryn would then ask those who had been healed one or two questions, different every time. For instance, she asked a woman in her fifties, “Do you believe in Jesus?” “No, I am a Buddhist.” A young man about twenty years old was asked: “Are you a Christian?” “No, I am an atheist.” “Won’t you believe in Jesus now that He has healed your wife?” Kathryn asked. A long silence passed. After much pressing on Kathryn’s part, he finally said, “I will try.”   —  Occult ABC by Kurt Koch, 1978 

Source:   http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/kuhlman.htm

Testimony by Joan Gieson

“In 1966 Frank my husband took me to a Kathryn Kuhlman Miracle Service in Pittsburgh Penn. We waited for hours on a cold spring morning in May. We watched thousands of sick people gather on the steps, the yard and the street of the 1st Presbyterian Church. We arrived there approximately 12:00 Midnight, not ever imagining the direction or adventures God would take us on.

About 4:00 a.m. I saw two huge angels, or what I believed to be angels standing at each end of the street looking and watching over us. Their features were big and bold and strong, but also gentle like a mother hen over her chicks. I saw them standing there until we went into the building. I’ve never told anyone these things. They have always seemed so private to me. They were at least 25 feet tall and neither one of them spoke,”

“Suddenly the great thick oak doors were pushed open and the crowd, hurried in to find a seat. It was the first time I had ever waited all night at a church, or seen people run to get on the front row. I was in amazement and excited and thrilled and expectant and scared. I did not know what to expect. I had never seen anything in my life like this. JESUS WAS REALLY THERE, and the moment I sat down, I closed my eyes and started to cry. I FELT A LIGHT BEAM ON MY HEAD THAT FILLED MY ENTIRE BODY. I felt illuminated, I felt love and security and needed and grateful and special and unworthy and strong and weak and warm and wonderful, and like I never wanted to leave that place. I wanted time to stop so I never had to leave that moment.”

“When I finally did see her on the platform, I only saw a tall slender beautiful woman, engulfed in a brilliant aurora I could not see her face clearly for the mist that hovered around her”

Source:   http://www.jgmol.com/kk.htm

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The Life And Death Of Kathryn Kuhlman

“Her life was a mystery. Many events of her life were shadowed with half-truths, deception, confusion and misrepresentation. If the righteous or wicked die as they live, then her death was a proof of her disobedience and bondage by false spirits. In fact, of all the mysteries about her, her death was the most mysterious.”

“On February 20, 1976, in a strange hospital, in a strange city, surrounded by people she hardly knew, with a man she once disdained standing in the wings ready to preach her funeral. The woman whom Time magazine called a ‘veritable one-woman Shrine of Lourdes’ was dead at the age of sixty-eight.” (Daughter Of Destiny, Jamie Buckingham, pp. 1-2.)

“In the second paragraph above he mentioned a statement by Time magazine in which she was called a “veritable one-woman Shrine of Lourdes.” A second biography, written by Wayne E. Warner, entitled The Woman Behind The Miracles, stated that people often used monies saved to visit an apparition of Mary and instead visited a crusade being conducted by Kathryn Kuhlman. It was very apparent that her healing services were on the exact same level as a so-called mystical apparition of Mary.”

“Although she had not mentioned marriage, everyone seemed to know. A ghastly hush fell over the congregation. All the rumors they had been hearing about Waltrip divorcing his wife in order to marry Kathryn – it was all true. Women began to sob. Several got up from the choir and walked out. Men sat stony faced in their pews, looking at Kathryn in disbelief. How could she do it? This woman, who had preached such dynamic messages about purity and holiness. This woman who had been such a model of decency and divine compassion.”   —(Daughter Of Destiny, pp. 82-83.)

Kathryn Kuhlman And “The One World Religion”

Kathryn Kuhlman was apparently the first minister within the Evangelical/Pentecostal world that laid a foundation for the new unity movement of religions. It was said by her official biographer, Buckingham, that Miss Kuhlman did not like to conduct her services without Catholic priests on her platform. He stated,

“She had a special love for doctors, and wanted them either on the stage or on the front rows of the auditorium. The same was true of priests and nuns – especially if they were ‘in uniform’. Nothing thrilled Kathryn more than to have thirty or forty Catholic clergymen, especially if they wore clerical collars or, better yet, cassocks, sitting behind her while she ministered. Somehow it seemed to lend authenticity to what she was doing – and helped create the proper climate of a trust and understanding which was so necessary for a miracle service.” (Daughter Of Destiny, p. 221.)

She had a special affinity for the Catholic style of high church grandeur. When Kathryn went to Las Vegas for her crusade, the following was reported,

“Kathryn had but one pass through Las Vegas, and she would deliver the gospel with power! Hundreds of people in Las Vegas as well as the faithful in Youngstown, Pittsburgh, and Franklin had agreed to pray that the Holy Spirit would stir the city. Not far away a Roman Catholic priest said a Mass for the meeting the day before.” (The Woman Behind The Miracles, pp. 229-230.)

Please remember that a Catholic Mass is believed to be a time when the very bread and wine becomes the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ. Millions of Protestants died as martyrs because they rejected this blasphemous assertion. Did her affinity for Catholic dogmas help start the declension within the Pentecostal circles that has now become a watershed of deception and compromise? I certainly believe so! “Kathryn Kuhlman was an ecumenist without portfolio.” (Ibid, p. 15.) Jamie Buckingham further stated,

“In 1948 while ecumenists designed programs for denominational unity, Kathryn Kuhlman threw open the heavy old doors of north Pittsburgh’s Carnegie Music Hall. Streaming through the doors and scurrying for chairs came Protestants, Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Jewish, and other groups, most related to churches but others not. And they were back the next week and the next.” (Ibid, p. 15.)

This certainly would have been acceptable if they were led out of these cold-dead churches to embrace a life of separation and New Testament lifestyle. That’s certainly what Jesus did. On October 11, 1972, Pope Paul gave her a private audience at the Vatican. Mr. Warner stated,

“Complimenting her on her ‘admirable work,’ he admonished her to ‘do it well!’ and gave her a gold, handmade engraved medallion bearing a dove symbolizing the Holy Spirit.” (Ibid, p. 172.)

Kathryn Kuhlman And Her Spirit Guides

I am personally convinced that Miss Kuhlman was controlled by a spirit guide masquerading as the Holy Spirit. There appears to be no other possible answer. Coming to this conclusion has been a very tough and heart-rending experience. The following quote from Benny Hinn’s book, Good Morning, Holy Spirit, will give you a glance at her attachment to either the Holy Spirit or a spirit.

“I looked up to see Kathryn burying her head in her hands as she began to sob. She sobbed and sobbed so loudly that everything came to a standstill. The music stopped. The ushers froze in their positions.

“Everyone had their eyes on her. And for the life of me I had no idea why she was sobbing. I’d never seen a minister do that before. What was she crying about? It was told later that she had never done anything like that before, and members of her staff remember it to this day.

“It continued for what seemed like two minutes. Then she thrust back her head. There she was, just a few feet in front of me. Her eyes were aflame. She was alive.

“In that instant she took on a boldness I had never seen in any person. She pointed her finger straight out with enormous power and emotion – even pain. If the devil himself had been there, she would have flicked him aside with just a tap.

“It was a moment of incredible dimension. Still sobbing, she looked out at the audience and said with such agony, ‘Please.’ She seemed to stretch out the word, ‘Plee-ease, don’t grieve the Holy Spirit.’

“She was begging. If you can imagine a mother pleading with a killer not to shoot her baby, it was like that. She begged and pleaded.

“‘Please,’ she sobbed, ‘don’t grieve the Holy Spirit.’

“Even now I can see her eyes. It was as if they were looking straight at me.

“And when she said it, you could have dropped a pin and heard it. I was afraid to breathe. I didn’t move a muscle. I was holding on to the pew in front of me wondering what would happen next.

“Then she said, ‘Don’t you understand? He’s all I’ve got!’

“I thought, ‘What’s she talking about?’

“Then she continued her impassioned plea saying, ‘Please! Don’t wound Him. He’s all I’ve got. Don’t wound the One I love!'” (Good Morning, Holy Spirit, Benny Hinn, pp. 8-9.)

Her words reveal a view of this spirit that is extremely unusual. She said, “Don’t you understand? He’s all I’ve got.” Again, she said, “Please don’t wound Him, He’s all I’ve got. Don’t wound the One I love.”

The Holy Spirit absolutely never speaks of Himself. He glorifies Jesus Christ in His church and in you and Jesus Christ alone. Jesus said,

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.” (John 16:13-14).

She was enamored with this “spirit” that came upon her. Often she spoke of her fear that he would leave her. She would wait behind the stage, even at times while the service languished for this “spirit person” to manifest himself. When he came she was electric and performed as the greatest of actors. Hinn continued in his description of Kuhlman’s emphasis on this spirit whom she called the Holy Spirit. He said,

“In my church, the pastor talked about the Holy Spirit. But not like this. His references had to do with the gifts or tongues or prophecy – not “He’s my closest, most personal, most intimate, most beloved friend.” Kathryn Kuhlman was telling me about a person that was more real than you or I.” (Ibid, p. 9.)

Source:  www.pawcreek.org/articles/endtimes/KathrynKuhlmanandHerSpiritGuide.htm

Bennt Hinn Praying at Kuhlman’s grave

The secret to Hinn’s power is his peculiar anointing, which he connects with Kathryn Kuhlman and Aimee McPherson, founder of the Foursquare Gospel Church. He first felt the “full power of the Holy Spirit” on him at a Kuhlman healing service in 1973 — and her mantle has presumably fallen upon Hinn. He conducts his meetings almost exactly like hers — though it takes Hinn much longer to get his audience into the expectant mood that seems to generate psychosomatic “miracles. ” In an April 7, 1991 sermon, Hinn revealed that he periodically visits Kuhiman’s grave and that he is one of the few with a key to gain access to it. He also visits Aimee’s grave, where he says: “I felt a terrific anointing … I was shaking all over … trembling under the power of God … ‘Dear God,’ I said, ‘I feel the anointing.’ … I believe the anointing has lingered over Aimee’s body.”   — (Dave Hunt, “Signs of the Times,” CIB Bulletin, Jan. 1992           http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/ti020006.htm)

Saints, we have to preserve that anointing whether its the anointing that’s on Rod… Rod Parsley agrees with Hinn about the anointing as he discussed the new healing center of Hinn’s on his program he said. ” God where those anointings will be multiplied Parsley says, I’m seeing this now Benny] … Multiplied by one another, Smith Wigglesworth’s anointing multiplied by Oral Roberts anointing multiplied by Kathryn Kuhlman’s anointing multiplied by Benny Hinn’s anointing and when the people come there, there faith will be at such a level that that spiritual genealogy which you are preserving will come to bear against their need. … this is going to be a miracle mountain. “( This is Your Day program, Aug. 24, 1999 TBN )      http://www.letusreason.org/Pent40.htm

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Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

57 Responses

  1. Christine

    You say “the whole picture of testing the spirits you get if you read I John 4:1-4 is one of INTERROGATING them. If some message given clearly contains wrong stuff, that is the end of it, but if it is ambiguous or doesn’t get on that key subject, you need to interrogate them, while they are talking to you or to someone else.”

    Well we are testing the spirits when it comes to you and what you believe. Tell me, do you not have faith that when God says He is going to remove Christians from this earth before the hour of testing, just as Noah escaped God’s wrath in (Genesis 7:1) so will the end times Christians be removed before God’s wrath explodes onto the earth during the tribulation.

    Revelation 3:7-10
    And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name…Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

    The bible says:

    Rev 3:10: Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee FROM the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

    You say “The wedding is AFTER the last judgement”

    I think we will believe the bible instead of you.

    I agree with Thomas, we are going to cut you short because we have answered all your type of questions a million times on this website, if you really care to know the truth look up the category ‘rapture’ on this website and read the truth.

  2. blank Lauren S. says:

    I am writing to urgently warn you against speaking negatively about Julio Ruibal’s ministry. YES, the kundalini yoga serpentine energy is very similar to the manifestation of the Holy Spirit, [deleted by DTW]

  3. Lauren S

    >> I am writing to urgently warn you

    You are warning us? Why what will happen?

    >> YES, the kundalini yoga serpentine energy is very similar to the manifestation of the Holy Spirit

    Not it’s not, the Holy Spirit is in no way even remotely similar to kundalini. READ: The Biblical Holy Spirit vs.The False Unholy Spirit of Fire

    If you are really saved and you love Jesus Christ with all your heart you will listen to what the bible has to say and get out of this delusion. Many people get caught up in this false spirit when they first get saved and then realise they were deceived and come out of it because they listen to the Holy Spirit’s warnings.

  4. Lauren S.

    Kathryn Kuhlman was a false teacher who deceived many people into believing that many miracles of healing took place in her ministry. Like Benny Hinn, who allegedly received the anointing at her grave, she proclaimed another Jesus.

    THE TRANSFORMATIONS VIDEO:

    The Transformation video which has been widely distributed and excitedly accepted by many churches and Christians, was produced by the Sentinel Group of George Otis Junior. In this video four communities are presented and portrayed as radically transformed through revivals brought about by the spiritual warfare techniques of the Transformations movement. The four cities presented in this video are (1) Cali in Columbia, (2) Almolonga in Guatemala, (3) Kiambu in Kenya, and (4) Hemet in California. But are the wonderful claims in this video true? Since the release of the video, various groups, who have investigated the claims, found many of them false and exaggerated.

    1. Cali, Columbia:

    The Transformations video claims that the drug cartels were defeated and that the cults have decreased. It shows that Cali is a “safe” city, where a significant percentage of the population is now safe and revival flourishes. Where people once lived in fear, they now safely walk the streets.

    The reality, though, is that there are still drug cartels operating from Cali, one commanding his operation from prison. The rebels, who protect the drug trade, are still attacking churches in Cali, shutting down many. The rebel group has closed churches, imposed a 6pm curfew on services where it allows churches to meet, and banned public religious activity in a territory under its control. The ELN, another rebel group, invaded a catholic church in Cali and kidnapped 140 members two months ago.

    http://www.cnn.com, search for Cali, Columbia. http://www.usoloj.gov/dea/traffickers/Columbia.htm

    Satanic groups are attacking churches and Christians, especially in Cali. Some churches have suffered repeated attacks, said Consuelo Zuluaga, a social worker in Justopaz.

    http://www.bijbelnet.org/landen/columbia.htm

    According to the newsletter of Ruth Ruibal, the widow of the assassinated pastor Julio Ruibal, who is mentioned in the video, the situation in Cali is “a gross darkness” a city where her church must hire armed guards and where the church must be protected by barbed wire (soon to be replaced by a 10 – 12 foot wall if permission is granted). The assassin of Julio is free, and openly claimed to have killed Julio. He owns the land next to the church and is threatening to kill other family members.

    http://www.ruibal.org/1999dec.htm

    It should also be noted here that Julio was killed because of a property dispute, not because of his religious endeavors.

  5. blank Lauren S. says:

    Why did you delete my comment? If you are a true lover of Christ and are concerned with my salvation, you should leave my comment up and refute every aspect so other readers can learn. [deleted by DTW]

    DTW note: Why do we deleted your comment, well first and foremost you threaten us! That is why we delete you comment. Secondly we delete your comment because you are not here to learn the truth, you want others to learn from your false teaching and you want to waste our time. If you read this website you will see that we have answered all your questions already.

  6. blank angel says:

    Hello!
    Do anyone knows about Peter Cabrera? Torben Söndergaard among others that are doing street healings on youtube, Todd White etc?
    Are they of God or a product of the jesuits???
    Thanks for an answer.

  7. angel

    Please remember that Satan is also quite capable of healing people.

    For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. (Mar 13:22)

    Healing people and doing great signs and wonders are not necessarily proof that the person performing them is saved. John the Baptist whom Jesus said was the greatest among the prophets never performed a single miracle in his life. Don’t let their alleged miracles fool you.

    Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Mat 7:21-23)

  8. blank Jeremiah Obembe says:

    I believe dat d bible is d highest authority in d life of a christian so,i believe in d bible with all my heart. I av tested d ministry of Kathryn Kuhlman & Benny Hinn using God’s word & found them to b true to God. Ascribing God’s workings to d devil is pharisaic & blasphemous. If u believe satan can heal,cant God do much more? d believe dat spiritual gifts av ceased is from d pit of hell. Jesus is d same yesterday,today & forever.Heb.13:8. If he healed in d past,then he still heals today cos he is alive & he does dis thru believers like kathryn & Benny…dont ever make d mistake of giving d devil d glory dat belongs to God.

  9. Jeremaih Otembe

    Make sure you are reading and understanding the Bible and not your own reading of things into the Bible and understanding of the Bible. So, you also believe that mankind’s redemption was accomplished in hell and not on the cross? That’s pure blasphemy.

    Please read here.

    I would like to suggest that you repent of your evil to exalt Benny Hinn and Kathryn Kuhlman as ministers of God and to turn your back on them because they are leading you right into hell.

  10. blank Rob(Walking it, not judging it) says:

    It’s funny. If anyone claims that they are Christians, then they WILL believe in healings, casting out of Devils and many signs and wonders. The critics are the same that would have crucified Christ….and they would have never believed Paul after his past. So if you are against Benny or Kathryn then who’s healing ministry are you for? The Christ said that we will do more than he, once the Holy Spirit comes….and he has come for sure. You cannot do anything in Christ without the Holy Spirit. You will scream Jesus and find that you HATE people who dont look like you, vote like you, act like you, dress like you, believe like you or are of the same race as you. Without the Holy Spirit you can ONLY lust or divide. There is nothing else. Satan is the GREAT deceiver and without the Holy Ghost no man, preacher, priest or some internet investigator can truly walk righteously before the Most High God in the name of Jesus. You will only find the yourself attacking the work of the Holy Ghost and living forever unforgiven.

  11. Dear Rob

    >> The Christ said that we will do more than he

    Because you interpret scripture incorrectly I would like to ask you this question based on your incorrect interpretation: Would you like to tell us exactly what MORE you can do than Jesus Christ. Jesus created the universe, what is it exactly that you plan on doing that is greater than that?

    >> So if you are against Benny or Kathryn then who’s healing ministry are you for?

    Jesus Christ’s healing ministry, you see Rob we go directly to Jesus and ask Him for healing etc we don’t need a middle man 🙂 Do you have a problem with going to Jesus direcctly for healing and if so why?

    >> You will scream Jesus and find that you HATE people who dont look like you, vote like you, act like you, dress like you, believe like you or are of the same race as you.

    Gosh you should look in a mirror and tell this to yourself because you hate us for telling the truth.

    >> You will only find the yourself attacking the work of the Holy Ghost and living forever unforgiven.

    Oh sigh, another misinterpretation of scripture. The unforgivable sin was for the Pharisees that told Jesus Christ to His face that he was doing the work of Satan.

    Rob, why do you interpret scripture incorrectly? Because you are deceived by the likes of Benny Hinn etc? Or is it because you are just plain hard hearted and you don’t want to know the truth? Which is it?

  12. Rob wrote:

    The Christ said that we will do more than he, once the Holy Spirit comes….and he has come for sure.

    He never said that we shall do more or greater works once the Hoy Spirit has come. He said that we shall do greater works if we believe. The Holy Spirit had not yet come when Moses parted the Red Sea and all the other miracles in Egypt. And by the way, John the Baptist never performed a single miracle in his entire life and yet Jesus called him the greatest prophet who ever lived (Matthew 11:11). When Jesus said that we shall do greater things if we believe, He did not mean that we shall do them because we believe we are capable of doing them. He simply said that if we believe on Him (are truly saved) we shall win souls for Him. Very few people came to a knowledge of salvation under the Lord’s ministry when He walked the earth. In contrast, his disciples had much more conversions once He ascended to heaven and sat on the right hand of his Father. These were the greater works. To win a soul to Christ is greater than raising the dead.

    There are of course false signs and wonders (miracles) that come directly from Satan.

    Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Th 2:9-12).

    Whoever attributes to God what is of Satan are the ones who love unrighteousness because to “call evil good, and good evil; [to] put darkness for light, and light for darkness; [and] put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” (Is 5:20) is wholly unrighteous.

  13. blank Roots says:

    Every human has faults, therefore no matter how genuine, no human can have a totally perfect ministry. They’d be flaws. Only Yeshua, the Christ was perfect.
    1 John 4 vs 1 says to test spirits. However verse 2 and 3 tells us how to know which spirit is which. Verse 2: By this you know the Spirit of God, Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God.
    1 Corinthians 12 verse 3 says: Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.
    Simple!

  14. Roots,

    The argument that every human has faults is not an excuse for preaching false doctrine. In fact Paul emphatically said,

    I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:6-9)

    Preaching and teaching false doctrine is a very serious offense and not just a fault or personality mishap. It takes those who preach it and those whom they mislead to hell.

    1 John 4 verse 1 should be read together with Matthew 8:28-29:

    And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way. And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time? (Mat 8:28-29)

    Note that Jesus appeared before the demons in the flesh and they promptly acknowledged that He is God (the Son of God). Does that validate their wickedness and does it prove that they were of God? Makes you think, doesn’t it?

    In 1 Corinthians 12:3 Paul dealt with false teachers among the Corinthians who claimed to have received visions, messages and revelations from God, whilst they emphatically denied that Jesus came in the flesh. Hence their maxim, “Jesus be accursed.” Paul warned the Corinthians not to believe and accept their visions, messages and revelation as being from God, whilst they cursed Jesus’ humanity.

  15. Roots

    So what you are implying is that ministers can preach error because they are human? Tell me something, the Apostles that wrote the books of the bible (inspired by the Holy Spirit) was their teaching flawed? If not, why not?

  16. blank Pem says:

    What a load of uncanny tripe! “Judge not that you be not judged.” This statement from atheism Lord Jesus Christ referred directly to CONDEMNING other people an not to discerning a truthful as well as merciful course of action toward someone who has lost his or her footing in error. Be careful how you judge because if your judgement becomes a condemnation of another’s soul then you are in dangerous territory.Picking out one statement by a person about the Holy Spirit and claiming this statement is false and evil is a dangerous thing to do.

  17. I find it rather strange that your comment in which you accuse us of judging others is itself replete with judgment. Remove the mote from your own eye before you try to remove the beam from others’ Yes, one wrong statement about the Holy Spirit is damnable.

    And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
    (Mat 12:32)

    Did you notice He said “a word.” You don’t even have to make one false statement but merely a wrong word against the Holy Spirit to come into the judgment of the unforgivable sin.

  18. blank Robbie says:

    “Judge not” is certainly the most often misquoted verse in the Bible. I have also learnt that people use that verse to hide their sinful lifestyles.

  19. blank Daniel says:

    There’s such a difference between someone who only knows about salvation but denies the power of God to heal and perform miracles. Then there are those who say God can heal but they also don’t operate in miracles or healing. Then there are the rare exceptional diamonds, like Kathryn Kuhlman who obeyed God to the utmost, who died to self, so people all over the U.S. could be healed by Holy Spirit. The difference with Kathryn, she didn’t just know about salvation, she didn’t just know healing was possible, she had a personal intimate relationship with the healer, Jesus Christ and His Spirit, Holy Spirit. And she constantly taught people to honor Holy Spirit and Jesus. She lifted up the Savior, Jesus in all of her meetings and acknowledged Jesus as her Savior, her everything. Hardly what Satan would do. If Satan lifted up Jesus and the Holy Spirit, he would divide and destroy his kingdom. Those who speak against Kathryn and her ministry are speaking against the founder of her ministry, Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit.

  20. Dear Daniel

    Benny Hinn In the process of researching, I came across a shocking, very telling account of Benny Hinn’s statement on TBN, years ago, that he had actually been visited by Kathryn Kulman, after her death, more than once, in dreams, visions and appearances, and as well by Elijah! Here is the report, revealing this. http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/Hinn1.htm

    You said “Hardly what Satan would do. If Satan lifted up Jesus and the Holy Spirit, he would divide and destroy his kingdom.”

    2 Corinthians 11:14-15 “14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.”

    Satan has built his kingdom and his counterfeit church here on earth using the likes of Kathryn Kuhlman, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland and the rest of the hordes of demonic ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works!

    The below verse proves that you can preach using the name of Jesus, perform miracles using the name of Jesus, cast out demons using the name of Jesus, prophecy using the name of Jesus but the Jesus they follow is ANOTHER JESUS, ANOTHER GOSPEL and ANOTHER SPIRIT then Jesus Christ the Son of God will say to them, “I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity”

    Matthew 7:21-23 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    2 Corinthians 11:4 “For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”

  21. Daniel, the power of God is NOT to heal people and perform miracles. This is the power of God:

    For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (1 Co 1:18)

    Kathryn never preached the cross. In fact, she boasted that it was her love for people that healed them.

  22. blank KimRenee says:

    I never heard or read that Kathryn Kuhlman said, that she healed anyone . She always said she did nothing the Holy Spirit did it all . She quoted Scripture all the time. Satan knows scripture better then most . I do not and have not seen anything that Kathryn Kuhlman did as a false profit. Many lies have been said . I’ve studied her for everyday for over a year now . I believe in the Father,Son and Holy Ghost. And she felt all 3 like they with her all the time . But she was human.We have all sinned ! Who has not sinned throw the first stone .

  23. Dear KimRenee

    The Holy Spirit does not heal. Show me a verse in the bible where He heals us physically?

    Please read: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/06/23/biblical-holy-spirit-unholy-spirit-fire/ ( Discerning the difference between the Holy Spirit and the Kundalini Spirit of Fire)

  24. blank Konrad says:

    A verse for healing would be Psalm 103:3.

  25. Paul must have been completely ignorant of Psalm 103:3 when he advised Timothy to “Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach’s sake and thine often infirmities” (1 Tim 5:23).

  26. Kathryn Kuhlman died of heart failure (undoubtedly a disease).

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