Dr. Chuck Missler, SWANsat and the Auric Currency
Dr. Chuck Missler, SWANsat and the Auric Currency
I am writing this article because I do not think that Chuck Missler is being at all honest with us as to what he really believes and who he ‘works’ for. For some unknown reason Chuck Missler is ‘protected’ in that he seems to be able to get away with all sorts of false prophecy and publishing books on ‘extra biblical’ occult subjects with no one battering an eyelid.
His resume (freely available on the internet) is profound in that Chuck’s interests, companies and world plans all seem to tie in with what he himself tries to expose as evil in his books.
Chuck Missler is not an expert on prophecy, he is helping to orchestrate Biblical prophecy by aiding and abetting the One World Order.
I will let you review the below information and you can ask yourself the question; “Why is a supposed born again Christian ‘serving the people‘ by connecting the world via 3 satellites and helping to establish the African Union which is part of the New World Order?” I know I am going to get some serious slack for this article, but someone has to say something. And seeing as though I have nothing to lose, let me be that person. In my research I have noted some highly recommended pastors support Chuck Missler, some even have their their books being published on Koinonia House Europe.
There are many things that I myself have fallen prey too and sometimes it’s been difficult for me to want to believe I was fooled. I am no one special, but I do my utter best to listen to the Holy Spirit’s warnings and I ask Jesus for forgiveness of these things and rectify my errors so that I do not lead people astray. I sincerely pray that these pastors that I myself love very much, take heed of what I have written here and re-evaluate their position regarding what the Bible says about false teachers and how it’s even possible for the elect to be deceived.
It sometimes takes a donkey to come along and show us something that was so glaringly obvious.
Dr. Charles ‘Chuck’ Missler: (Information below in no particular order)
Chuck and Nancy Missler established Koinonia House in 1973
Chuck Missler also has close ties with Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel (where he preached) which was founded by The Jesus People
Close friend to Hal Lindsey (broadcasts shows on
Trinity Broadcasting Network). Hal Lindsey who had a show on TBN for years had his show removed by TBN in December 2005 because of his criticism against Islam. As of Feb 2007 he was back on TBN hosting his show, “The Hal Lindsey Report”. — http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17439/hal-lindsey
Pat Matrisciana is a director of Chuck Missler’s Koinonia House. Matrisciana also founded Campus Crusade for Christ with Bill Bright
Dr.William Welty was appointed to the board of Directors of Koinonia House on 24 October 2009, which creates, develops, and distributes materials to stimulate, encourage, and facilitate serious study of the Bible as the inerrant Word of God. Koinonia House is located in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho and was founded by Dr. Charles Missler.
Chuck Missler supporter of the Bible Code which is Gematria/Numerology –
literal Qabalah. Book: Hidden Treasures – Chuck Missler highlights many of the trademark discoveries of hidden messages within the Biblical texts that will challenge and excite you! A ‘must read’ for every thinking seeker of truth and serious inquirer of reality.
On TBN’s 12/29/99 ‘Praise the Lord’ program which Hal Lindsey and Cliff Ford, hosted. One of their guests was Chuck Missler. Missler said he was there for the purpose of endorsing TBN’s movie, The Omega Code, and promoting his own new book on the Code. The Omega Code movie did NOT promote the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but rather gave credence to the latest big lie — that there are hidden messages in the Bible when one uses the letters as an acrostic puzzle. This is the latest blasphemy sweeping through the professing church — using the Bible as a tool for divination.” —Biblical Discernment Ministries
Occult fascination with UFO’s. Alien Encounters: This book confronts the issues surrounding the sightings of UFOs and alien abductions and offers answers to many of the most pertinent questions. — http://www.alienencounters.com
Dr. Charles W. “Chuck” Missler’s Curriculum Vitae:
Member of a globalist group since 1998, the Council For National Policy (CNP).
Established the first international industrial computer network in 1966 while working at Ford Motor Company.
Founded a computer networking organisation later acquired by Automatic Data Processing (NYSE) to became its Network Services Division. Consultant to the Board of Directors of Rockwell International for corporate acquisitions. Pioneer in computer technologies, participation in the development of some of the most top-secret military systems, including the Stealth bomber, anti-submarine warfare, worked with William E. Simon, former Secretary of Treasury on a strategically sensitive ultraviolet laser project, partnered with Boeing on P-3 upgrade, CEO for Advanced developments for Department of Defense and other deeply classified customers, Global Positioning Satellite systems, Director of Applied Devices Corporation for data processing support services for international oil industry, state lotteries, etc.
Owner of The Phoenix Group, Inc., – 1989
Personally funded the first microchip implementation of the Data Encryption Standard (DES)
Gave false prophecy of Y2K where 2 videos were released by Chuck Missler and John Ankerberg with advertisting title: “The Coming Y2K Computer Crisis Will threaten Anyone Whose Faith is Not in God!”. This ‘false prophecy’ is very peculiar considering his unbelievable resume regarding anything computer orientated. Why would someone who is a genius in the computing field say such a stupid thing.
Partnership with company that will soon launch 3 Satellites that will connect the entire world in the year 2014.
Helping establish the African Union currency called the Auricâ Currency.
Participated in over 100 business ventures as a principal, strategic adviser, or turnaround specialist. Ford Motor Company, TRW, Western Digital Corporation, as well as U.S. and foreign governments.
Missler was Senior participant in highly classified projects serving the intelligence community and the Department of Defense.
Not so long ago Chuck Missler was at the:
God’s News Behind the News International Prophecy Conference 2000 – Orlando Florida, 5-8 April 2000
The prophets were:
- Jack and Rexella Van Impe,
- Morris Cerullo,
- Hal Lindsey,
- Grant Jeffrey,
- Perry Stone,
- John Bevere,
- Ray Brubaker,
- Joe Van Koevering,
- Zola Levitt,
- Chuck Missler,
- J.R.Church,
- Gary Kah,
- Bill Cloud.
The Quantum Leap II Conference – July 19-21 2007
- Hosted by: The Gateway Christian Fellowship with speakers from The Elijah List, etc:
- David van Koevering (The Elijah List, New Age Occultist) – As a visionary, his gift is the insight to see, and by this observation to cause, and then define and communicate what he saw to others.
- Chuck Missler (Chuck was encouraged by his close friend Hal Lindsey to pursue his long-time love of teaching the Bible on a full-time basis. Hal Lindsey regular on TBN.)
- JoAnne McFatter (The Elijah List- New Age Occultist),
- Steve Swanson – Worship and Arts Director of Extreme Prophetic run by Patricia King (both The Elijah List- New Age Occultists).
- Previous speakers at Quantum Leap I Conference included: Kansas City Prophet Bob Jones along with Mike and Kari Browning.
‘Quantum Leap’ is a popular new age idea of man’s spiritual evolution from human to divine.
“Barbara Marx Hubbard” wrote apologist Brooks Alexander, “has a similar event that she calls a planetary Pentecost. She explains to us that at this time, a ‘quantum leap’ in the evolution of mankind will occur as revealed to her by ‘the Christ’: ‘At the moment of cosmic contact, I will appear to you both through inner experience and through external communication on your mass media.’ Hubbard says, at this time when ‘the divisions of the religions would be over…We would each know that God is within us…If all who feel we are connected to each other, to nature and to God join in a planetary Pentecost, we shall be transformed in this lifetime.’ (Barbara Marx Hubbard and the Armageddon Alternative,” SCP Journal, Vol. 19:2/3, 1995, p. 49).”
Jackie Alnor from Apostasy Alert tried to contact Chuck Missler on why he attend this conference but did not receive a reply from him. http://www.apostasyalert.org/REFLECTIONS/quantum.htm
Chuck Missler of Koinonia House sponsored: The Malta Expedition – 2004, ‘Exclusive Archaeological Cruise Event’ .
Tourists sailed to the islands of Patmos, Malta and Crete with excursions to Ephesus and Athens, where they visited the Acropolis, Parthenon and Mars Hill. Two days were spent on the island of Malta, where the tour visited the Palace of the Grand Master of the Knights of Malta!
At Valetta the tour will also visit an ancient Tarxien temple. ‘Tarxien’ means ‘huge stone’ which describes those used for the numerous prehistoric temples on Malta. The World Monuments Fund is trying to help protect these temples. In Lady of the Beasts: The Goddess and Her Sacred Animals, Buffie Johnson informs that Malta was renown for its temples and monuments to the Mother Goddess
Rockwell International:
A multifaceted company that worked in the manufacturing arena for defense and space industries. Rockwell International are Freemason/Illuminati.
The building that was originally built for Rockwell International was designed in the shape of a Ziggurat; a stepped pyramid in the style of ancient Babylonia. However they did not occupy the building and it became the regional branch office of the federal government, housing some National Archives material and other miscellaneous government documents.
Ziggurat
An ancient Mesopotamian temple tower consisting of a lofty pyramidal structure built in successive stages with outside staircases and a shrine at the top. [1] Form of temple common to the Sumerians, Babylonians and Assyrians. [2]
SWANsat: The Super-Wide Area Network Satellite
“People Serving People”
SWANsat’s satellite services will begin in 2014.
The SWANsat Project will place a constellation of three high-powered satellites into operation: One spacecraft will serve Europe, Africa, the Middle East, and western Asia. One spacecraft will serve North, Central, and South America. One spacecraft will serve central and east Asia, Australia, New Zealand, and the central Pacific. When operated together, all three spacecraft will provide coverage of the entire globe, except for polar areas.” — www.swansat.com
Dr. Charles W. “Chuck” Missler is a special advisor to the SWANsatâ„¢ project. —www.swansat.com/about_us_cmissler.htm
Introducing the World’s First Inflation-Proof Gold and Silver Standard Offered as Part of SWANsat’s Modern Marshall Plan for the African Union
Learn how SWANsat can help stabilize the world’s economy through the proposed gold-backed Auricâ currency. — http://www.swansat.com/index.htm
African Union Gold Currency – Auricâ
Dr. Welty is a founding member of the Global Settlement Foundation (GSF), a Geneva-based, independent, international non-profit organization that provides finality of settlement for global trade. The GSF System includes the GSF, duly appointed prime dealers, foundation members, lawful processes, and deliverable units. These trade in a cryptographically neutral marketplace. In the Global Standardâ„¢, one Globalâ„¢ is defined as 0.1 gram of gold by mass deliverable as 0.999 or better fine gold, and includes retail delivery of 0.9999 pure gold 1 Kg bars marked 10,000 Globals, high value coins designed for circulation and low value coins and notes. All circulating physical Globals contain at least 70% of the face value amount of gold with the balance stored in the GSF vaults. Counterfeits are impossible without the gold content. GSF enables the physical and lawful processes that facilitate creation and movement of goods and services, including the necessary infrastructure to allow entrepreneurs and investors who use Globals to create and use a real-capital stock market that allows the pricing function in the marketplace to price risk. The genius of the west – lawful real-money stock markets – has now again returned to the service of mankind. –– http://www.williamwelty.com/about_us.htm
In early June 2005 we began a feasibility study regarding formation of mySWANbank, a proposed banking service for SWANsatâ„¢ users. Our mySWANbank service will be operated in conjunction with SWANsat’s affiliated Banque de Commerce Internationale. — http://swansatfoundation.com/milestones.htm
Chuck Missler is nothing but a Luciferian cleverly disguised as a Dominionist.
Other Resources: [1] www.merriam-webster.com [2] www.encyclopedia.com/html/z1/ziggurat.asp
NEW!! UPDATED: 5/12/2016 – Please read this SHOCKING news about William P Welty, Chuck Missler, Ron Matsen and a new book released in May 2016 about Mary the mother of God aka Queen of Heaven: William Welty and Koinonia House – the Adoration of Mary book
André
Now I am alarmed! What is going to happen to DTW?
Now I am confused. DWT is berated for publishing her opinion, but others are allowed to have opinions?
Now I am offended.
André, you say you speak “on behalf of many sound and good grounded South Africans Christians living abroad” and that the “problem here, is the people having difficulty to spot the sheep ie people and preachers”. No, that is not the problem. Oh, wait. You only spotted one sheep among us and presumably dismissed the rest of us as sensation seekers not interested in the truth.
Do you speak emergent?
Deborah,
I decided to check back and see how the comments were going! I too have experienced personal attacks for ‘warning’ others on an article I wrote. No worries there will always be those who feel they have to defend ‘men’ and are unwilling to see the deception that is right in front of their eyes. There will be those who having itching ears desire and heap on for themselves teachers…you know the verse. Anyway. Don’t even give ppl like that response time. I mean there are those who venture only to pull you out far enough to attack. There are some who have honest questions or need reproof but then there are swine we should keep our pearls from if ya know what I mean! Blessings to you and I’ll keep checking this blog. I sometimes don’t update mine as often because of dealing with stuff like this! lol. oh well, it’s a small price to pay for such a great and awesome gift!
Hi Deborah (PLEASE DON’T PRINT)
I just want to say that i think you do a great job at DTW. I only disagreed on the Chuck Missler story and truly believe he is a sheep. Sorry for how this has become! I don’t often(if ever) go on blogs etc and i guess this proved that i shouldn’t
I might not be as polished,tacktfull or experienced in bringing myself over on text and the feeling being brought over is not what i really intend for
There is nothing sinister and i’m not M.A only a friend. My name is as my email says: Andre Steyn, i live in Australia en ek is n afrikaanse boer seun.
I honestly don’t know if M.A still reads your blog and sincierly regret dragging his name into what i have created. If i can humbly ask you to please delete all my mail that i mentioned his name. I would hate for him to see this
I will stay off this site to prevent another mistake
Take care and God bless you!!!!!!!
[EDITED: I have edited your private details out of this comment]
mijadedios
That’s exactly the problem. This keeps me from updating my blog. I have had so many people tell me this before and do I listen? Nooope. Thank you for your encouragement.
Andre
Thank you for you comment. I am going to post your comment. I have edited your personal details out from your comment.
A few things here:
1) You should know that Michael is not his real name, so deleting all your comments mentioning Michael’s name is pointless. Or is Michael his real name. Who knows. I don’t care to be honest.
2) You have been conversing with Michael about my blog for a long time otherwise you would not have known to come here so quickly.
3) Michael was already commenting in the plural when he said “On this one we highly disagree” so he knows you have commented.
4) No one can see your email address and I surely have no intention of emailing you or your friend for that matter.
5) How did you know that Michael requested I forward my info to him first and told me not to post the information either way. You said, “He did offer to find out information directly from Calvary and Missler, before you published this article, as he knows the relevant people well.”
6) Andre, you lie like a cheap watch.
7) In case you need to know the address of the Satellite company again, it’s called SWANsat and the African Union currency is called the AURic currency. You should see that the Zimbabwe coin looks like. I wonder what the South African one looks like. Anyhow it’s spelt S W A N S A T and A U R I C. And as much as you refuse to acknowledge this exists you can always just go to http://www.swansat.com. And you can get there by going to google and in the address type http://www.swansat.com. And if you have trouble doing that, type Charles Missler into google and then Swansat comes up within the top 10 on google on the front page. There is also a monthly magazine about swansat explaining everything.
8) The end.
Deborah,
The “we” mentioned in my first email [edited: you mean comment] was me and my friend Michelle. Michelle also has commented on your blog before. We both live in Australia.
[EDITED: The we I mentioned was not where you said ‘we’ but where Michael said in his comment, “On this one we highly disagree, unless you can come up with something explosive. For far I have not see any radioactive signs on his teachings.” – read properly before you make any more mistakes]
Hmmmm my 2c worth.
One thing is very clear to me. DTW is not taking on CM on a personal basis, she is simply giving us a clear warning, to heed, to the cracks found in his teachings. The cracks are clear to me. It is obvious those who choose to follow CM teachings cannot say one day we did not know!! We are all just mere humans and we all can fall.
I can say for one i was not even aware of the cracks unitl this posting. Dtw thank you for doing what you are doing only out of LOVE for your fellow Christians and those still seeking Jesus.
Do people even realize how hard it must be for DTW to keep a Biblical balance on the articles posted. True discernment is not about attacking anybody in person. It’s purely to take note off the warnings.
DTW I thank you for your LOVE IN JESUS.
Deborah,
The reason i asked you not to print my msg is because this is a public blog and i know that. But we are also individuals and more importantly we are christians and sometimes to show mercy and grace we have to make it personal. Making it public would be self rightous and that’s my reason for saying “don’t print”
For what bennifit is it if we sit with a wealth of knowledge and yet we can’t even show each other grace. I’m sure you understand this but to emphasise it more maybe listen to a few Paul Washer sermons and you’ll perfectly know what i mean
I gave my personal details just to show i’m not M.A…..not for any other reasons
I know that is not his real name. But it does not matter.My apology was sent not for the people but for you and him.It doesn’t matter to me what people think but the people involved. I unknowing to him have dragged him into this and i just needed to clarify that. I don’t know if you have true friends but if you do you would know what i mean.We(me and M.A.) have spoken about this blog before but not much was said as this really isn’t important
“i lie like a cheap watch” ….. God bless you!
Remember: For a woman to be in leadership is like for a man to be rich…. a double portion of flesh to fight off….. I know you probably know this but it’s good to emphasise it again so we know where the enemy will attack. I praise the Lord for woman in those positions but it comes with great responsibility!
Andre
Andre
Making your apology public would be self-righteous? bbwahhahaa. LOL. Pull another one. You should have thought about all of this before insulting me, trashing my blog, threatening me, and lying. And Michael has no need to be angry with you because he has already said the same things about me and this blog that you have said in your first comment. If Michael gets angry with you that would just be so non-Christian-like. You both speak from the same spirit. As for the rest of your comment….well… I say no more. From now on I will delete all your comments.
Sjoe, some heated comments going around here and some sort of division between old friends…always sad.
Debs, I wish I had the right scriptures to back you in your battles but alas (as you know), I am still a new reborn Christian only beginning to read and understand the Word of my Lord and Savior. For me its clear as daylight when reading your article about Chuck Missler so I will not buy his books or follow his teachings, period. I do not need a Chuck Missler to find salvation.
I might be very wrong on this and if I am please tell me so. But I honestly try to listen to the words of Jesus. One passage I looked up…
Matthew 11:25-30
I need to get to my point… I believe that we as humans try to understand and explain God’s Word with human Wisdom. Everyone has a new revelation, a new take on the Word. Jesus tells us to learn from Him and that is what I am going to do. Honestly if someone like Chuck Missler end up being genuine and not false it does not matter. For I will not be judged on whose human teaching I followed on earth.
Anyhow, Debs, for me as a baby Christian, I thank you for your website. See there is allot of intellectual and expert Bible theologians here on the web. I cannot compete in knowledge with them, but sites like yours help me to watch out, stand strong and ignore potential false messages. So thank you. God bless and know that even though some might “hate” you for what you are doing, know there is others out here that support you, love you in Christ, pray for you and stand with you.
God Bless
Pieter
It seems that you have quite a bit of negativity surrounding your articles Debz. I on the other hand completely commend you on your hard work and sacrifice it must take to do such intensive research.
I pray that peoples eyes will be opened by what you write. Just a pity that even Jesus Himself said that even the “elect would be deceived”.
Carry on Debz.
I HAVE A QUESTION. IF ALL THESE MEN AND CHURCHES AND PEOPLE ARE WRONG WHO IS RIGHT.
I need fellowship so much. I am starving for it. Who can I trust to teach me the word.
Yes, I read my bible but its fellowship I desire. HELP ME PLEASE BEFORE I GO CRAZY.
”
Could THIS be the exact reason why you didn’t want DTW to post your comment? now I assume André would apply the good lesson to “learn” from his mistakes? (of which the bigger one is to cover up…)
Very interesting: when this DVD about the planets came out first, me and my dad watched it together. My dad left the room (angry) about a quarter into screening – why? he said “this man is promoting the creation and not the Creator.” I did not see it from that point of view, but after finishing the DVD I felt “incomplete” (though it DID end with the cross in the sky!). what remained in my thoughts afterwards was the sounds that the planets (& stars) make and not thoughts about God. (well, that was just my observance, in my simple plain words).
Pieter
Thank you and don’t worry you will be upto scratch in no time. God has given us the internet with so much info available – the problem is decifering what is true and what it false. But when born again the Holy Spirit quickly shows you which is true and He will lead you.
louise
You are going to have to 1) come to the realisation that this is going to be impossible in these times because all churches are corrupt. 2) I believe God has given us the internet for a reason. 3) Who are you to trust to teach you the word? The Holy Spirit of course and your desire to do your own study.
Andre
Stop spamming my blog. It immediately falls into my spam section and is deleted automatically. And using a different username and email address is not going to solve your problem(s).
Gerard Willemse: a friendly word – her name is Debs, with an “s” nor a “z”. Jesus removed the lightning flash when He saved her! …… just wanted to say….
cecilia
Louise
The one who will preach the Law straight and hard to convict you of your sin. The one who will send you home with the sweetness of the Gospel, not a to-do list. The one who will preach about the Christ, who lived a perfect life for you, and not about the Christian who should try really, really hard not to mess up the ‘second chance’. Read Todd Wilken’s “The Listener’s Guide to the Pulpit.” [DTW, could you help me out with the link, please?]
Feed on good sermons available on the Internet. Gobble it up, even. Try Faith Lutheran Church and Holy Trinity Lutheran Church.
Louise, I know what you are saying. Pray and do not compromise. Keep your eyes and ears open, but know that you will make far more enemies that friends. Don’t waste time trying DR churches. Seek out only the best. Be prepared to go it alone if that is what you are called to do. Don’t go crazy. What is happening is what we have been warned about in the Bible.
C
LOL – lightening flash, where do you come up with this stuff. That was funny.
Gerard, you can keep the z – lookz cool haha
[EDITED: Sorry C I have no idea what I did here, but I went into to edited your urls and I deleted the whole lot and saved by accident. It had a link to “a listeners guide to the pulpit” pdf and another was to sermon index. I have the ‘listeners guide to the pulpit’ article on my site, the other url I dunno what that was…sorry]
it’s fine D! I for one, am one of those people who belief that God is in control; so if He didn’t want my comment to be here, that’s it. it will be in your article anyways! keep standing then!
C
Ag nee, what I wanted was for you to go and find the url of the sermon index you posted and re post it. I didn’t really explain that did I. Sorry. So if you can remember what it was please post it again.
Louise…
Where do you live ? Only give your Province for now.
I do know of a few fellowships around the country where they teach TRUTH and try to live the Word.
Deborah…
Have you considered to maybe have a small section somewhere on your blog where we can “submit” fellowships or other ministries that we believe is kosher, on the condition that they should be willing to be submitted to some “checking-out” if required. (a checklist maybe..)
I do believe there are more people like Louise who is searching for TRUE teaching and fellowship.
Hi Cecilia
a friendly word – brother to sister
This blog is not the Bible and we as commentators and contributors are not the Apostles writing the perfect Word of God. We are just Children of God following the Spirit of God and we can and may make mistakes. God allows for that.
Ps 103:13 As a father has compassion on his children,
so the LORD has compassion on those who fear him;
Ps 103:14 for he knows how we are formed,
he remembers that we are dust.
Awesome scripture hey ?
Now,if Spirit of God lays something on your heart and your first effort gets thwarted do you stop ? Aren’t we suppose to persevere until we overcome or until God tells us not to pursue this further?
You DID post those URL’s because you believed that we or someone on the blog might need them. Amen?
Come on then, stand your ground and deliver the “goods” … someone on this blog needs them!
You commented:
>> I for one, am one of those people who belief that God is in control; so if He didn’t want my comment to be here, that’s it. <<
Did God tell you NOT to put those URLs again?
I agree that God is in control BUT you still have a will and a responsibility towards God to use it under the guidance of His Spirit. We must not be like jellyfish and not pursue that we believe God wants us to do just because we failed or got "tripped-up" on the first attempt.
Lets not be taken for a ride or get "tripped-up" by a "mischievous" finger on a "naughty non-compliant" mouse in the hands of a confused -I have no idea what I did here- lady with a "block"…oops! I mean blog! 😉
I, myself also had this "way of thought" until God showed me the root of it – Calvinism.
Yep, that's where I got "infected" with this faulty way of thinking. It stems from the Calvinist doctrine of predestination that says: "What will be will be and I can do nothing about it".
By the way, the Muslims also has this way of thought. It is called: Insha'Allah. They also have made this into a law that they must obey.
I have an very interesting Video by Jacob Prasch that compares Calvinism to the Muslim faith and the similarities are quote something…
Cellia, I value your comments and I enjoy the way you "play" with some of the "naughty" commentators here.
Keep it up !
Blessings
Jean
>> Lets not be taken for a ride or get “tripped-up” by a “mischievous” finger on a “naughty non-compliant” mouse in the hands of a confused -I have no idea what I did here- lady with a “block”…oops! I mean blog! 😉
You know, you almost sound like I actually ‘feel’ right now. Poep tired, exhausted and a nervous wreck.
I can do that. I’ll open a post for it tomorrow call it, “looking for genuine Christian fellowship?”
Deborah
>>You know, you almost sound like I actually ‘feel’ right now. Poep tired, exhausted and a nervous wreck.<<
I can understand the "Poep tired" and the "exhausted" part BUT I don't see you lying under the sea on the the seabed shivering and shaking . . . THAT'S a nervous wreck ! 🙂
You have nothing top be nervous about ! BUT I bet you this guy does…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2tSlXq2wz4&feature=player_embedded
Look at this video and you will see him acting VERY cool to some investigating questions…
BUT just picture him before GOD one day . . .
NOW THAT WILL BE A DISPLAY OF A NERVOUS WRECK !!!!!!
ouch! no Jean: fact – I did not save my comment (my mistake!); and because of THAT and that alone, I put that answer do Deborah. actually, I can be very stubborn sometimes… but this time, after been in bed with flue 4 a week, I am exhausted and knew that Deborah is gonna put the article and will have at least one link. but here’s the other link:
http://www.christsiouxfalls.org/media/Wilken%20-%20A%20Listener%27s%20Guide%20to%20the%20Pulpit%20with%20Bible%20refs.pdf
and then:
http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/2010/01/04/a-listeners-guide-to-the-pulpit/
I had a problem though: and did post a question on the 2nd blog: wanted to know what translation they’ve been using.
Maybe Jean can help (or help find out?)
Oh, just received answer back!
Hello Cecilia, thanks for stopping by.
I checked a few of the passages and they all seem to be the English Standard Version (ESV). Concordia Publishing House do a superb ESV-based study bible, called the Lutheran Study Bible:
http://cph.org/t-tlsb.aspx
end of comment answer quote.
Oh Jean…. I don’t play…. might do some “talk around the bush” like they do… but I don’t play… even if it’s just because it’s one of the New once’s favorite pastimes and a word they frequently use when they toy toy with DTW’s articles and comments!
you actually gave me a good “chuckle”… lol