What a Tragedy ‘Prophet’ Kobus van Rensburg
Please go here to read more about Kobus van Rensburg:
[NEWS UPDATE – Kobus van Rensburg claims God healed him, and is telling all his followers this. It has come to my attention that Kobus van Rensburg is in remission, BUT he did receive medication and Chemotherapy. Kobus van Rensburg is still preaching Latter Rain Manifest Sons of God teaching and even more so promoting that one can be IMMORTAL on earth. He also teaches his followers that they are Christ. Please read the comments below (there are many of them) to see the degree of heresy and insanity taught by Kobus van Rensburg. Also note his followers are not shy in threatening those who stand again Kobus van Rensburg.]
It’s a Tragedy
It has come to my attention that Kobus van Rensburg from Spirit Word Ministries has cancer and is very ill from what I have heard. His wife Annalise is appearing more and more on his Spirit Word TV channel instead of Kobus as he battles to speak or is just not well enough. There is very little information about this on the Internet. Almost as if no one is supposed to find out.
I wrote an article on Kobus here about 2 years ago exposing him as a false prophet, who proclaimed thousands healed from cancer and HIV/AIDS, etc. He still is a false teacher – nothing has changed, except he himself now has cancer.
So back to Kobus, and thinking about this situation of his. The only thoughts that come to my mind is; ‘what a tragedy’. Here is a man who you can’t even approach and say,
“Dear Kobus, have you heard about Jesus Christ. He is the ONLY One who can save you. Repent of your sin, repent of everything you have done. It makes no difference what you have done, God forgives everyone who comes to Him asking for forgiveness. Jesus Christ the Son of God gave His life so that you may receive eternal life – if you want it. If you don’t want it and prefer to try be your own little god, you WILL fail and you WILL find yourself facing eternal punishment for doing exactly what Adam and Eve did by falling for Satan’s lie, ‘You surely will not die if you want to be like God?’ Well, yes Kobus you will.
Genesis 3:4-5
4 “The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die!
5 “For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
Satan wanted to like God:
Isaiah 14:14
14 ‘I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’
Satan is the father of Lies:
John 8:44
“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
How easy it is for Satan to lead men astray:
2 Corinthians 11:3
But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.
There is a face book site dedicated to Kobus van Rensburg (having said that it does not state what’s wrong with him). All you will find is people leaving comments praying for him to get well soon. You will see the theme of ‘immortality’ come across through the many comments left. You see Kobus van Rensburg has reached godhood, and is therefore immortal. Are you confused? Don’t worry. Me too. Apparently in Latter Rain / Manifest Sons of God teaching you can be dead and alive all at the same time….I think.
Facebook: Kobus Van Rensburg will live and not die!!!!!
Now, it’s all very well to pray for Kobus to get well and that God heals him, but without Kobus coming to the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved all hope is lost.
Kobus went to see T B Joshua (Church of All Nations SCOAN) in Nigeria and reported that after coming back to SA had a great anointing of power in his life. Well Kobus, with the demonic power given to you, you were given demonic cancer as well.
“Repent Kobus, before it’s too late. You are not immortal, you are not a god, you are a sinner in dire need of a Saviour and that Saviour is Jesus Christ the Son of God, who gave His life that you may be saved. Through genuine repentance of your sin (everything you have done) and believing in Jesus Christ through faith you can be saved. You might not beat this cancer Kobus, but you will beat a 2nd death and receive eternal life if only you turn from your wickedness and ask God forgiveness through His Only begotten Son Jesus Christ. Humble yourself for once before the One and Only Living God like everyone else on this earth will have to do sooner or later. Get on your knees Kobus, you are no better than anyone else on this earth of ours. I repent every day of my life for the sinner that I am who needs constant saving. What makes you think you are so special? You are not! Ask God for forgiveness before it’s too late”.
If anyone can find more information on Kobus’ condition, it would be appreciated. I have contacted Spirit Word Ministries and received no reply.
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Debbie
Higher up on this thread
Golda Meyer said:
Debbie, do you agree that Kobus is preaching that we can choose to be immortal in our present bodies? Have you chosen that? Are you immortal like Kobus?
The Bible says we can be immortal -yes I do choose life.
Debbie
Are you saying that your physical body is not going to die? If so, will it continue to age?
If we are alive when Jesus returns then we will be given our immortal bodies. Yes, I am saying that our physical bodies will be made immortal and we will not die. I have seen people around me who are fighting the good fight of faith and are laying hold on life who are becoming younger.
How did death enter into the world?
when you lay hold on life and seek immortality, corruption and aging do stop – try it – you will love the results.
Amanda
Hmm I’m really upto the CR here and yes… I will just remain here a…….. while k
Jaaaa well lets just still rest awhile mmmmmmm ………..k yes much better I think? k
Debbie
We know that at the last trumpet and only then, we shall be changed. It is not only for those who embraced immortality.
Sin came into the world through Adam:
Are you saying Kobus is not aging anymore? How much have you ‘youthed’?
so let me get this clear…
you’re talking about Cobus’ “church” only? because otherwise it could mean that : if I’m a christian and get ill and I go to a sangoma (who professes to be a christian too, together with his “job”), and he prays 4 me amongst other things, and I get healed, it is God who heals me?
just a question…
Debbie
Do you have Scripture for this? Please provide us with the relevant Bible Scripture Debbie.
Debbie.
God uses even the wicked to fulfill His purpose.
Thursday’ Newspaper in Klerksdorp – a letter that read… “come to Spirit World Ministries … salvation is just around the corner” (meaning at Lofdal).
Robbie
Nooo your kidding me. So SWM says they give salvation and one can find it around the corner (meaning at Lofdal)? Jikes!!! What happened to Salvation ONLY trough Jesus Christ Crucified?
Oh these people are saddening me. How Tragic!!
Robbie
Is it Possible for you to put the whole letter up here as a comment please.
mmm I know it may be some work to get it on the comment but you need exercise lol lol lol. It seems you have had a long holiday lol lol
Debbie
1) When is your next birthday?
2) Give me 1 name of someone who is immortal on earth right now, past the age of 400 (besides the guy from the series Highlander)
3) Have you been to the doctor recently?
5) Seen a car accident recently? Pray you are never in one.
Where was this exaclty? In hospital? I would like the name of this hospital, doctors names and all information pertaining to these miracles.
Debbie
Tell you what, when you die one day, PLEASE come and tell us all about it afterwards.
Debbie
Um, that was quite a hate filled sentence I would say.
Satan can turn sticks into real snakes:
Exodus 7:10-12 “And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent. Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron’s rod swallowed up their rods.”
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Because of man’s willingness to sin and disobey God’s word Satan became the ruler of earth…hence you will NEVER find immortality on earth, only in ETERNITY after you die is where your RICHES LIE. But if you want to gather your riches here on earth (which Jesus tells your NOT TO DO) then go ahead
Luke 4:6 “And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.”
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God has given Satan power, certain amount of control, even though he believes he has it all, he does not…
Revelation 13:14 “And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.”
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Satan works miracles to deceive people like you for instance and everyone else who does not read their bible…and why do I know you do not read your bible, because if you did you would be quoting these scriptures to us to answer your OWN QUESTION.
Revelation 16:14 “For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.”
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Can Satan make a false ‘pastor’ look like such a wonderful, loving, nice, Christian? Would Satan dare show up looking like Jesus in visions etc. Of course.
2 Cor 11:14 “for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light”
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Satan can cast out demons….
Matthew 12:27 Jesus said to the Pharisees: “And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.”
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Can Satan heal? Oh yes he can, especially when he gave you the illness in the first place, that he could just then take away like in Kobus case. In the Bible when Jesus healed it was instant, Satan does partial (takes time to get better) healing – just like Kobus – recovering slowly…
A genuine Christian would NEVER receive a satanic healing. But a fake Christian most definitely can, and with that healing comes many other things that will drag that person right down into hell.
Enough? Or do you want more?
I am not going to waste my time with scoffers………
you want a scripture reference for when ageing and corruption stop. The Bible is full but here…
Psalm 91 With long life will I satisfy him
Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies.
What happens to a mortal body which is quickened by the life giving Spirit? It becomes immortal.
Job 4 Your flesh will be freshened like a babies flesh.
Before carrying on blaspheming the Holy Ghost and insulting and doubting a true prophet of God – I suggest you all take a trip to Stilfontein to see for yourselves.
Just by the way the last trump is the last message which is the message of immortality.
Debbie
No. You are going to die, should the Lord tarry. I know this, because the Word of God says so:
How can Kobus be a true prophet of God if he contradicts Scripture?
The last trumpet has not sounded yet, for the dead has not been raised imperishable, we have not been changed and therefor you are not immortal. (1Co 15:52)
Debbie, you have been very bold in your assertions. Can answer boldly again: Do you fear death?
Psalm 102:20 To hear the sighing and groaning of the prisoner, TO LOOSE THOSE THAT ARE APPOINTED TO DEATH.
The last trumpet is busy sounding – listen, can you hear it?
Debbie
Naaaaaaaah no thanks Debbie there is enough proof for us that Kobus van Rensburg’s teachings are not Biblical and False. You are twisting the Scriptures to suit yourself. Besides we are warned to stay away from people like Kobus van Rensburg as Christians.
Seems to me you are obsessed with immortality Debbie. Are you afraid to get old/ or die ?? You have mentioned the word immortality/immortal 7 times ??
Yeah right stop wasting your time and ours please.
I just pray that your conversion was not a false one, because you seem to concentrate on the in wrong things.
anyway did you read this article too??
Let us wait and see…………………….
Debbie
The Real Biblical meaning of this verse Debbie.
Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary on Psalm 102:20
102:12-22 We are dying creatures, but God is an everlasting God, the protector of his church; we may be confident that it will not be neglected. When we consider our own vileness, our darkness and deadness, and the manifold defects in our prayers, we have cause to fear that they will not be received in heaven; but we are here assured of the contrary, for we have an Advocate with the Father, and are under grace, not under the law. Redemption is the subject of praise in the Christian church; and that great work is described by the temporal deliverance and restoration of Israel. Look down upon us, Lord Jesus; and bring us into the glorious liberty of thy children, that we may bless and praise thy name.
http://biblecommenter.com/psalms/102-20.htm
Debbie
No, let us not wait. If you are wrong then you have no guarantee that you shall see tomorrow. Death has not yet been destroyed. People still die.
If you die tonight, how will you face the wrath of God for breaking His Law? Do you fear God’s judgment? Do you fear death?
Debbie, I do not hear anything except the blasted vuvuzela’s and that is not it.
Debbie
Debbie again you seem not to understand the real meaning of Scripture for Romans 8:11
Matthew Henry’s Whole Bible Commentary ; Romans 8:11
There is a life reserved too for the poor body at last: He shall also quicken your mortal bodies, v. 11. The Lord is for the body; and though at death it is cast aside as a despised broken vessel, a vessel in which is no pleasure, yet God will have a desire to the work of his hands (Job 14:15), will remember his covenant with the dust, and will not lose a grain of it; but the body shall be reunited to the soul, and clothed with a glory agreeable to it. Vile bodies shall be newly fashioned, Phil. 3:21; 1 Co. 15:42. Two great assurances of the resurrection of the body are mentioned:-(1.) The resurrection of Christ: He that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken. Christ rose as the head, and first-fruits, and forerunner of all the saints, 1 Co. 15:20. The body of Christ lay in the grave, under the sin of all the elect imputed, and broke through it. O grave, then, where is thy victory? It is in the virtue of Christ’s resurrection that we shall rise. (2.) The indwelling of the Spirit. The same Spirit that raiseth the soul now will raise the body shortly: By his Spirit that dwelleth in you. The bodies of the saints are the temples of the Holy Ghost, 1 Co. 3:16; 6:19. Now, though these temples may be suffered for awhile to lie in ruins, yet they shall be rebuilt. The tabernacle of David, which has fallen down, shall be repaired, whatever great mountains may be in the way. The Spirit, breathing upon dead and dry bones, will make them live, and the saints even in their flesh shall see God. Hence the apostle by the way infers how much it is our duty to walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit, v. 12, 13. Let not our life be after the wills and motions of the flesh. Two motives he mentions here:-[1.] We are not debtors to the flesh, neither by relation, gratitude, nor any other bond or obligation. We owe no suit nor service to our carnal desires; we are indeed bound to clothe, and feed, and take care of the body, as a servant to the soul in the service of God, but no further. We are not debtors to it; the flesh never did us so much kindness as to oblige us to serve it. It is implied that we are debtors to Christ and to the Spirit: there we owe our all, all we have and all we can do, by a thousand bonds and obligations. Being delivered from so great a death by so great a ransom, we are deeply indebted to our deliverer. See 1 Co. 6:19, 20. [2.] Consider the consequences, what will be at the end of the way. Here are life and death, blessing and cursing, set before us. If you live after the flesh, you shall die; that is, die eternally. It is the pleasing, and serving, and gratifying, of the flesh, that are the ruin of souls; that is, the second death. Dying indeed is the soul’s dying: the death of the saints is but a sleep. But, on the other hand, You shall live, live and be happy to eternity; that is the true life: If you through the Spirit mortify the deeds of the body, subdue and keep under all fleshly lusts and affections, deny yourselves in the pleasing and humouring of the body, and this through the Spirit; we cannot do it without the Spirit working it in us, and the Spirit will not do it without our doing our endeavour. So that in a word we are put upon this dilemma, either to displease the body or destroy the soul.
http://biblecommenter.com/romans/8-11.htm
Debbie
Psalm 91
1 HE WHO [a]dwells in the secret place of the Most High shall remain stable and fixed under the shadow of the Almighty [Whose power no foe can withstand].
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my Refuge and my Fortress, my God; on Him I lean and rely, and in Him I [confidently] trust!
3 For [then] He will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence.
4 [Then] He will cover you with His pinions, and under His wings shall you trust and find refuge; His truth and His faithfulness are a shield and a buckler.
5 You shall not be afraid of the terror of the night, nor of the arrow (the evil plots and slanders of the wicked) that flies by day,
6 Nor of the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor of the destruction and sudden death that surprise and lay waste at noonday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side, and ten thousand at your right hand, but it shall not come near you.
8 Only a spectator shall you be [yourself inaccessible in the secret place of the Most High] as you witness the reward of the wicked.
9 Because you have made the Lord your refuge, and the Most High your dwelling place,(A)
10 There shall no evil befall you, nor any plague or calamity come near your tent.
11 For He will give His angels [especial] charge over you to accompany and defend and preserve you in all your ways [of obedience and service].
12 They shall bear you up on their hands, lest you dash your foot against a stone.(B)
13 You shall tread upon the lion and adder; the young lion and the serpent shall you trample underfoot.(C)
14 Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore will I deliver him; I will set him on high, because he knows and understands My name [has a personal knowledge of My mercy, love, and kindness–trusts and relies on Me, knowing I will never forsake him, no, never].
15 He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him and show him My salvation.
Psalm 91 >>
Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary on the Bible
91:1-8 He that by faith chooses God for his protector, shall find all in him that he needs or can desire. And those who have found the comfort of making the Lord their refuge, cannot but desire that others may do so. The spiritual life is protected by Divine grace from the temptations of Satan, which are as the snares of the fowler, and from the contagion of sin, which is a noisome pestilence. Great security is promised to believers in the midst of danger. Wisdom shall keep them from being afraid without cause, and faith shall keep them from being unduly afraid. Whatever is done, our heavenly Father’s will is done; and we have no reason to fear. God’s people shall see, not only God’s promises fulfilled, but his threatenings. Then let sinners come unto the Lord upon his mercy-seat, through the Redeemer’s name; and encourage others to trust in him also.
91:9-16 Whatever happens, nothing shall hurt the believer; though trouble and affliction befal, it shall come, not for his hurt, but for good, though for the present it be not joyous but grievous. Those who rightly know God, will set their love upon him. They by prayer constantly call upon him. His promise is, that he will in due time deliver the believer out of trouble, and in the mean time be with him in trouble. The Lord will manage all his worldly concerns, and preserve his life on earth, so long as it shall be good for him. For encouragement in this he looks unto Jesus. He shall live long enough; till he has done the work he was sent into this world for, and is ready for heaven. Who would wish to live a day longer than God has some work to do, either by him or upon him? A man may die young, yet be satisfied with living. But a wicked man is not satisfied even with long life. At length the believer’s conflict ends; he has done for ever with trouble, sin, and temptation.
Debbie
Are you a christ?
Prophecy from Kobus extracts
06 January 2010
4 April 2010
05 May 2010
01 May 2010
07 May 2010
Debbie
The verse you half quoted should not just read :” Psalm 91 With long life will I satisfy him ”
It actualy reads as follows: Psalm 91:16
With long life will I satisfy him and show him My salvation.
Debbie Please quote complete Scripture. Remember we cannot just take pieces from the Word of God and make/forse it to be applicable we must use Scripture in context.
For the Lord God says in : Deuteronomy 4:2 (Amplified Bible)
You shall not add to the word which I command you, neither shall you diminish it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.
Debbie
Well we don’t have time to spoon feed you either. We have provide you in great detail answers to your questions, and you reply with lame answers that mean absolutely nothing. You WANT to be led astray… so go. You time is up on this blog. Toodles.