What a Tragedy ‘Prophet’ Kobus van Rensburg

Kobus Van Rensburg - Man in Gods Image - http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v233/180/62/643502290/s643502290_541061_645.jpgPlease go here to read more about Kobus van Rensburg: 

[NEWS UPDATE – Kobus van Rensburg claims God healed him, and is telling all his followers this.  It has come to my attention that Kobus van Rensburg is in remission, BUT he did receive medication and Chemotherapy.  Kobus van Rensburg is still preaching Latter Rain Manifest Sons of God teaching and even more so promoting that one can be IMMORTAL on earth.  He also teaches his followers that they are Christ.  Please read the comments below (there are many of them) to see the degree of heresy and insanity taught by Kobus van Rensburg.  Also note his followers are not shy in threatening those who stand again Kobus van Rensburg.]

It’s a Tragedy

It has come to my attention that Kobus van Rensburg from Spirit Word Ministries has cancer and is very ill from what I have heard.  His wife Annalise is appearing more and more on his Spirit Word TV channel instead of Kobus as he battles to speak or is just not well enough.  There is very little information about this on the Internet.  Almost as if no one is supposed to find out.

I wrote an article on Kobus here about 2 years ago exposing him as a false prophet, who proclaimed thousands healed from cancer and HIV/AIDS, etc.  He still is a false teacher – nothing has changed, except he himself now has cancer.

So back to Kobus, and thinking about this situation of his.  The only thoughts that come to my mind is;  ‘what a tragedy’.   Here is a man who you can’t even approach and say,

“Dear Kobus, have you heard about Jesus Christ.  He is the ONLY One who can save you. Repent of your sin, repent of everything you have done.  It makes no difference what you have done, God forgives everyone who comes to Him asking for forgiveness.  Jesus Christ the Son of God gave His life so that you may receive eternal life – if you want it.  If you don’t want it and prefer to try be your own little god, you WILL fail and you WILL find yourself facing eternal punishment for doing exactly what Adam and Eve did by falling for Satan’s lie, ‘You surely will not die if you want to be like God?’  Well, yes Kobus you will.

Genesis 3:4-5

4  “The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die!
5  “For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Satan wanted to like God:

Isaiah 14:14

14  ‘I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’

Satan is the father of Lies:

John 8:44

“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

How easy it is for Satan to lead men astray:

2 Corinthians 11:3

But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.

There is a face book site dedicated to Kobus van Rensburg (having said that it does not state what’s wrong with him).  All you will find is people leaving comments praying for him to get well soon. You will see the theme of ‘immortality’ come across through the many comments left.  You see Kobus van Rensburg has reached godhood, and is therefore immortal.   Are you confused?  Don’t worry.  Me too.  Apparently in Latter Rain / Manifest Sons of God teaching you can be dead and alive all at the same time….I think.

Facebook: Kobus Van Rensburg will live and not die!!!!!

Now, it’s all very well to pray for Kobus to get well and that God heals him, but without Kobus coming to the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved all hope is lost.

Kobus went to see T B Joshua (Church of All Nations SCOAN)  in Nigeria and reported that after coming back to SA had a great anointing of power in his life.  Well Kobus, with the demonic power given to you, you were given demonic cancer as well.

“Repent Kobus, before it’s too late.  You are not immortal, you are not a god, you are a sinner in dire need of a Saviour and that Saviour is Jesus Christ the Son of God, who gave His life that you may be saved.  Through genuine repentance of your sin (everything you have done) and believing in Jesus Christ through faith you can be saved.  You might not beat this cancer Kobus, but you will beat a 2nd death and receive eternal life if only you turn from your wickedness and ask God forgiveness through His Only begotten Son Jesus Christ.  Humble yourself for once before the One and Only Living God like everyone else on this earth will have to do sooner or later.  Get on your knees Kobus, you are no better than anyone else on this earth of ours.  I repent every day of my life for the sinner that I am who needs constant saving.  What makes you think you are so special?  You are not!  Ask God for forgiveness before it’s too late”.

If anyone can find more information on Kobus’ condition, it would be appreciated.  I have contacted Spirit Word Ministries and received no reply.

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429 Responses

  1. Robbie says:

    Now this was good reading!… just 2 nights!

    Is Frans what we would call. a hit and runner
    or a hitter and runner…

    I live near Kobus. will go and see how he is.
    I am serious Debs

  2. blank Believer says:

    If I may, please…
    If you have been following politics, you should know what is going on in our land. Are you aware that on genocide watch, we are said to be at level 5 out of 8? We don’t need siener van rensburg to point this out to us.

    God has blessed me with 3 beautiful children, he has entrusted their lives to me. I choose to take care of them to the best of my ability. God has blessed me with a brain, I choose to use it!
    I will in times of strife, do my utmost to keep them safe from harm. I don’t think God would be happy, if I put my kids in danger. Rape, mutilation, sodomy…
    Whatever siener said is of no consequence to me…all the signs are there.
    You can’t pray to God in the name of Jesus Christ and expect Him to do all the work, you work as a team…not so?
    I will make sure that my kids are safe! To the best of my ability…
    Did Moses not lead the people? Did God not part the Red Sea?
    Today’s technology is wonderful! Surely we don’t need to be spoonfed?
    God’s people did not stay behind, they fled…from the onslaught…
    Forget what siener said for one moment…wake up and smell the roses.
    1Peter 5:8-9 ; Matthew 8:13 ; Deuteronomy 30:19

  3. Believer

    I think you missed a very important point in your comment. You reply soley on Jesus Christ for Him to look after you and protect you? And oh course you will protect your kids, even from people who claim to be Chrisitan but are not.

    Read the Bible, grow close to Jesus Christ, teach your children about Jesus and who He is. You are God’s witness to your family.

  4. blank Elmarie A says:

    Robbie
    <Is Frans what we would call. a hit and runner
    or a hitter and runner…<

    Hmmm lets wait and see……..

  5. Robbie

    >> I live near Kobus. will go and see how he is.
    I am serious Debs

    Please do! See if you can ask him for an interview 🙂

    Is Frans what we would call. a hit and runner
    or a hitter and runner…

    A hitter and runner. Fortunately I was wearing the full armour of God 🙂

  6. blank Elmarie A says:

    Deborah (Discerning the World)

    A hitter and runner. Fortunately I was wearing the full armour of God 🙂

    Eco eco yes!!

  7. blank Elmarie A says:

    Believer

    We are to place all our trust in Jesus who is coming to fetch His children. We are not to worry about things of this world because Satan is prowling this world like a roaring lion and it is christians who are his main target.

    Matthew 17:20
    He said to them, Because of the littleness of your faith [that is, your lack of firmly relying trust]. For truly I say to you, if you have faith [ that is living] like a grain of mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, Move from here to yonder place, and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.

    1 Peter 5:8
    Be well balanced (temperate, sober of mind), be vigilant and cautious at all times; for that enemy of yours, the devil, roams around like a lion roaring [ in fierce hunger], seeking someone to seize upon and devour.

    1 John 4:4-6 (Amplified Bible)

    4Little children, you are of God [you belong to Him] and have [already] defeated and overcome them [the agents of the antichrist], because He Who lives in you is greater (mightier) than he who is in the world.

    5They proceed from the world and are of the world; therefore it is out of the world [its [a]whole economy morally considered] that they speak, and the world listens (pays attention) to them.

    6We are [children] of God. Whoever is learning to know God [progressively to perceive, recognize, and understand God by observation and experience, and to [b]get an ever-clearer knowledge of Him] listens to us; and he who is not of God does not listen or pay attention to us. By this we know (recognize) the Spirit of Truth and the spirit of error.

    Did Moses not lead the people?

    Yes he did off course but because only God gave Moses the way to lead the People. Remember those people where the Jews/Israelites. We are not Jews/Israelites. I hope you understand this point.

    Believer ? Do you believe that only white people are Gods chosen people??

  8. blank cassandra says:

    hey! have you heard that, that kobus you claiming to be a false prophet is completely healed from cancer and anyway which miracles have you done?

  9. blank Elmarie A says:

    cassandra

    Hmmmmm have you read all the comments here? If not please do you should find a couple of answers to your comment.

    I will leave you with this as an answer from the Bible.

    1 John 4:1-6 (Amplified Bible)

    1 John 4
    1BELOVED, DO not put faith in every spirit, but prove (test) the spirits to discover whether they proceed from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the world.

    2By this you may know (perceive and recognize) the Spirit of God: every spirit which acknowledges and confesses [the fact] that Jesus Christ (the Messiah) [actually] has become man and has come in the flesh is of God [has God for its source];

    3And every spirit which does not acknowledge and confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh [but would [a]annul, destroy, [b]sever, disunite Him] is not of God [does not proceed from Him]. This [[c]nonconfession] is the [spirit] of the antichrist, [of] which you heard that it was coming, and now it is already in the world.

    4Little children, you are of God [you belong to Him] and have [already] defeated and overcome them [the agents of the antichrist], because He Who lives in you is greater (mightier) than he who is in the world.

    5They proceed from the world and are of the world; therefore it is out of the world [its [d]whole economy morally considered] that they speak, and the world listens (pays attention) to them.

    6We are [children] of God. Whoever is learning to know God [progressively to perceive, recognize, and understand God by observation and experience, and to [e]get an ever-clearer knowledge of Him] listens to us; and he who is not of God does not listen or pay attention to us. By this we know (recognize) the Spirit of Truth and the spirit of error.
    ___________________________________________________________

    False prophet – a Christian perspective
    God has no tolerance for false prophets–people who preach in His name, but who do not truly speak for God. Liars and deceivers of this nature have no place in the church.
    http://biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah%2014:14-15&version=NIV
    Topics: False Prophet
    All Topics

    Related Bible Verses
    Jeremiah 14:14-15 (KJV)

    Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

    Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine…

    Please read your Bible cassandra

  10. blank Karl says:

    [EDITED by DTW: I have not approved your comments because all you have to say are insults – as the saying goes, “if you have nothing nice and constructive to say, don’t say it”]

  11. blank Karl says:

    Just what have you been saying so long.
    Remember you are forgiven!

    [EDITED: Yes Karl, we are all forgiven when we accept Jesus Christ as our Saviour, but when we err we need to ask forgiveness again other wise you land up where Kobus is now. Btw, Kobus had Chemo therapy did’t he? And let’s say he was healed as he claims; remember Satan does heal too, he will give an an illness and then take it away. please go read this article: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/06/kobus-van-rensburg-self-anointed-prophet/%5D

  12. blank Karl says:

    [EDITED: Karl, Look, I understand that you think Kobus is the best in the west and quite frankly you can believe what you want. If you want to make Kobus your IDOL, then worship him as the little god he say he is.]

  13. blank James says:

    Deborah (author of this article), it is a hard reality that in the modern age, the written word has similar powers (if not more) than the spoken word. If you really are a Christian and study the Bible (meditating on the Word), then you’ll guard your tongue (and your keyboard) better. It’s unwise to judge those willing to put themselves in the firing range to impart a bit of wisdom. When will this sensationalism end?

  14. blank Gerhard says:

    Deborah, kry n lewe vrou!!! Hou jou opinies vir jouself, as jy voel die man is n fals profeet dan is dit jou probleem. Kry jouself in die hemel en laat hom dit self uitwerk! Die man is siek, en as sy gemeente vir hom wil bid los hulle. Het jy nie beter dinge om jou mee besig te hou nie!

  15. James

    Deborah (author of this article), it is a hard reality that in the modern age, the written word has similar powers (if not more) than the spoken word. If you really are a Christian and study the Bible (meditating on the Word), then you’ll guard your tongue (and your keyboard) better. It’s unwise to judge those willing to put themselves in the firing range to impart a bit of wisdom. When will this sensationalism end?

    When will it end? When you open your eyes.

    PS, stop judging me

  16. blank Elmarie A says:

    Gerhard

    Deborah, kry n lewe vrou!!! Hou jou opinies vir jouself, as jy voel die man is n fals profeet dan is dit jou probleem. Kry jouself in die hemel en laat hom dit self uitwerk! Die man is siek, en as sy gemeente vir hom wil bid los hulle. Het jy nie beter dinge om jou mee besig te hou nie!

    Aaai Gerhard kry jy nie skaam nie? Weet jy wat dit beteken om te kan onderskei tussen waarheid en leun. Jy weet uit die aard uit niks van die Woord van God nie, want n mens kan jou self nie net in die hemel kry nie. Weet jy dit? Dink jy regtig mens moet net almal glo wat die Woord preek? Wat dan van al die waarskuwings in die Woord oor valse profete en leeraars?

    Nee wat Gerhard ek dink jy moet jou Bybel begin lees en bid dat die Heilige Gees vir jou help om die Woord te openbaar.

    Jou hele komentaar wys vir almal dat daar nie vrug by jou is nie.

    Kyk maar na die volgende skrif asb.
    Galatians 5:22-26

    22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

    1 Thessalonians 5:21
    But test and prove all things [until you can recognize] what is good; [to that] hold fast.

    Matthew 7:15
    Beware of false prophets, who come to you dressed as sheep, but inside they are devouring wolves.

    Mark 13:22
    False Christs (Messiahs) and false prophets will arise and show signs and [work] miracles to deceive and lead astray, if possible, even the elect (those God has chosen out for Himself).

    1 Corinthians 10:7
    Do not be worshipers of false gods as some of them were, as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink [the sacrifices offered to the golden calf at Horeb] and rose to sport (to dance and give way to jesting and hilarity).

    2 Corinthians 11:13
    For such men are false apostles [spurious, counterfeits], deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles (special messengers) of Christ (the Messiah).

    Galatians 5:9
    A little leaven (a slight inclination to error, or a few false teachers) leavens the whole lump [it perverts the whole conception of faith or misleads the whole church].

    2 John 1:7
    For many imposters (seducers, deceivers, and false leaders) have gone out into the world, men who will not acknowledge (confess, admit) the coming of Jesus Christ (the Messiah) in bodily form. Such a one is the imposter (the seducer, the deceiver, the false leader, the antagonist of Christ) and the antichrist.

    Sterkte Gerhard

  17. blank Elmarie A says:

    Gerhard
    Jy se aan Deborah :

    as jy voel die man is n fals profeet dan is dit jou probleem

    Jou stelling is ongegrond en n leun.
    Dit is nie n persoonlike probleem nie maar wel n feit dat ons juis valse profete soos Kobus van Rensburg moet “expose” en die teen mense waarsku soos in om die trompet te blaas vir die wereld om te hoor en uit basuin. Dit is n sonde om sulke leraars soos Kobus van Rensburg te beskerm want hy mislei mense en baie mense daarby gese , baie mense verval onder sy demoniese invloed. Ek het al van sy dienste op opnames gesien en was geskok oor sy “antics” Nee wat Gerhard die man is eenvoudig net demonies.

    Mense soos Kobus is “aangetrek” in skaap klere en as jy hom ondersoek en toets is hy n wolf soos ons lees in Matthew 7:15.

    Kobus van Resnburg doen hom voor as n Apostel en in werlikheid is hy n valse Apostel soos ons dan lees van in 2 Corinthians 11:13

    Matthew 7:15
    Beware of false prophets, who come to you dressed as sheep, but inside they are devouring wolves.

    2 Corinthians 11:13
    For such men are false apostles [spurious, counterfeits], deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles (special messengers) of Christ (the Messiah).

  18. blank Leon says:

    Dit is duidelik dat hierdie land gebuk gaan onder werkloosheid. Ek glo almal wat hierdie man so bespreek te lui is om te gaan werk soek. Julle het beslis niks anders om te doen nie.

  19. Leon

    >> Dit is duidelik dat hierdie land gebuk gaan onder werkloosheid. Ek glo almal wat hierdie man so bespreek te lui is om te gaan werk soek. Julle het beslis niks anders om te doen nie.

    Actually no, we all have full time jobs, this is done inbetween all our daily chores. We make a living by working a decent days work. We don’t sell the Gospel of Jesus Christ to make a living. If you can’t multitask, then don’t make your problems ours.

  20. blank Leon says:

    Hoe klein kan jy nog wees? Iemand hoof nie Godsdiens te verkoop vir ‘n lewe om sulke kinderagtige twak as waaroor julle stry raak te sien nie. As jy ‘n vaste bwerk het, het jy baie tyd om te mors. Ek dink jou baas moet iemand kry was meer produktief is en nie sy tyd so mors waarvoor hy jou moet betaal nie. As jy in jou eie tyd op die E Pos besig is, kan jy gerus iets anders kry om jou mee besig te hou.

    Ek het gelukkig nie meer nodig om te werk nie. My VADER het my geseën met ‘n gawe om te sorg dat ek genoeg kon bymekaar maak. Probeer gerus om dit liewer te doen as om ander mense te bespreek en af te kraak. Jy gaan niks daaruit kry nie.

  21. blank Elmarie A says:

    Leon

    Hi Leon jy het dan ook hier kom skryf.lol lol Het jy werk? Soos Deborah gese het eko ek haar woorde.

  22. Leon

    >> Hoe klein kan jy nog wees? Iemand hoof nie Godsdiens te verkoop vir ‘n lewe om sulke kinderagtige twak as waaroor julle stry raak te sien nie

    Um, Leon, is this not what Kobus van Rensburg does? Sell the gospel as he makes a rich living off of people’s gullibility? You came and insulted us by telling us we should get day jobs. So we answered your question and now you come back with another rediculous reply.

    Enough already. You are a hyprocrite, stop judging us as you so eagerly point fingers at us for warning people about false teachers. If you want to carry on following lies, then carry on. What you chose to do is soley your choice. I am not here to make you believe the truth. I tell the truth and you do with it what you want.

    Now run along and go do what ever it is you do best else where…judge others.

  23. blank Elmarie A says:

    Leon

    Sterkte met jou koningkryk van rykdom wat jy op aarde vir jou vergader het. Ek will niks te doene he met rykdom op aarde nie dit gaan nie saam die dag as Jesus sy kinders kom haal nie. Onthou Jesus weet wat is in elkeen se hart.

    Leon lees jou Bybel en leer die Woord as jy weet wat dit is asb. Hou op met jou ongegronde beledigings asb.

    Galatians 5:22-26
    22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

  24. blank Leon says:

    [EDITED: Ag Leon, we have had people ask us the same questions you are asking us a good hundred times already. I think the most annoying question for me is when someone says “Hoeveel siele het julle al vir Jesus gewen.” (English: How many souls have you won for Jesus). In fact I think you and Harry need to get together and go bowling. I ask nicely that instead of making us repeat ourselves over and over and over again that you go and read all 5500+ comments and 250+ articles on this blog as I GUARANTEE you that all the questions you can possible come up with have ALREADY been asked by someone and been answered biblically. And our answers wont change no matter how hard you try. No matter what question you can come up with, you can even spiritual warfare us, walk around my blog 8 times, anoint your pc screen with oil, call down fire, hop on one leg for 24 hours, blow a shofar until you turn blue – it’s NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY IMPACT.]

  25. Robbie says:

    Elmarie.. does it really rain on the wicked too?

    Yea yea!!.of course i am still here!

  26. blank Elmarie A says:

    Leon

    Het julle al iets van Neville Norden gehoor.Ek sal graag jul mening wil hoor omtrent hom en sy kerk, Die Lewende Woord, in Pretoria

    Oor Lewende Woord hmmm ons familie was daar gewees totdat ons deur die leiding en genade van die Heilige Gees daar weg gelei is. Dit is ook n kerk vol valshede Jammer om dit vir jou te se. Leon as jy onderskeidings vermoe het sal jy weet waarvan ek praat. Ons moet kan onderskie tussen die waarheid en die leun. Ons leer dit in God se Woord. Vir elke leun is daar die waarheid wat ons moet vind en ons kan dit net vind deur die Woord en leiding van die Heilige Gees.

    Neville Norden word so omring deur sy ‘Joels Army Wariors” soos ek dit noem. Ons as gewone kerk lede het geen toegang tot Neville nie want hy is eenvoudig te besig met sy profetiese skool ens ens om , om te sien na sy kerk lede op n persoonlike basis. Neville Norden is on bereikbaar vir die gewone mens. Lewende Woord is n Groot kerk en bedien die “Hoe klas rykes” soos jy sal lees by my link ondertoe.

    Dit is n Groot kerk met Lights, Camera, Action, Focus on the man at the glass pulpit. Daar word nie fokus op Jesus geplaas nie en ook nie gefokus op die Bybel nie, hulle konsetreer baie op “Miracles, Signs and Wonders”. Hulle hiet en gebied sommer die Heilige Gees om te kom en gaan soos hulle dit verkies. Die Heilige Gees woon en elke christen wat wedergebore is dit is n God gegewe geskenk van God af as ons wedergebore word. Dit is absurd om te dink die Heilige Gees woon in n masiewe kerk gebou !!

    O ja Neville Norden se as jy nie in tonge kan praat nie dan is jy ONKUNDIG!!!!! Lees dit hier hoofstuk 8 bladsy 183 . Dink net bietjie mooi is dit Bybels?. Ek kon nog nerens in die Woord kry dat Jesus of sy Apostels dit ooit het gese het vir die christine of by Pinkster nie.

    Neville Norden glo ook nie dat daar nie n wegraping gaan wees nie want sy preke handel meestal oor “the Kingdom Now” teologie. MAW ons maak nou die wereld gereed vir die koms van Jesus waar Jesus dan vir 1000 jaar gaan regeer saam met Sy kinders. So asof die mense dinge uit God se hande wil neem en vir God dinge wil besluit en dan volgens menslike besluite te wil voorberei, dit is absurd.

    Ek lees hier van die wegraping en verstaan dit net soos God vir ons se in :
    1 Thessalonians 4 (Amplified Bible)15 For this we declare to you by the Lord’s [own] word, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord shall in no way precede [into His presence] or have any advantage at all over those who have previously fallen asleep [in Him [i]in death]. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud cry of summons, with the shout of an archangel, and with the blast of the trumpet of God. And those who have departed this life in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we, the living ones who remain [on the earth], shall simultaneously be caught up along with [the resurrected dead] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so always (through the eternity of the eternities) we shall be with the Lord. 18Therefore
    comfort and encourage one another with these words.

    Leon dit is n wonderlike vooruitsig is dit nie!!!! God is so n wonderlike genadige God, n Almagtige God en sal Sy belofte aan Sy kinders nakom. Ek kan net nie verstaan hoekom die meerderheid kerke nie die goeie nuus aan God se kinders verkondig nie. Wow wat n belofte van God om te kan verkondig.

    By Lewende woord is jy net nog n nommer op hulle data basis en maandelike by draes is van uiterste belang. Streng word daar elke sondag gese hoe belangrik dit is dat as jy gee en sal jy onvang en hoe meer jy gee hoemeer sal jy ontvang. Maar ek het dit anders as jy gee vir die kerk of armes se God se woord dan die een hand nie moet weet wat nie ander hand doen nie en dit moet uit jou hart uitkom.
    Matthew 6:3
    But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

    Ons was daar vir omtrent 8 maande en was nooit nooit een keer gekontak om ons te verwelkom as nuwe lede nie.

    Ons was gelei deur die Groot genade van God om weg te draai van Lewende Woord af en ek se daagliks dankie aan God vir sy genade.

    Leon ons is tans in die tyd van die Groot Wegval en nie Oplewing/Revival soos al die vals predikers verkondig nie. Lees gerus ww.bibleguidence.co.za ook vir Bybelse bewyse daar is baie artikels en Bybelse bewyse wat jou beter sal laat verstaan oor valse predikers wat n ander Evangelie verkondig.

    Ek wil vir jou se ek het Niks teen Neville Norden nie en ek het liefde vir hom in my hart, MAAR ek haat die sonde waarby hy betrokke is. Dit is ook die geval met Kobus van Rensburg en al die wereldse VALSE Predikers en glo my daar is werklik baie so baie die wereld is vervuil.
    Romans 12:9
    [Let your] love be sincere (a real thing); hate what is evil [loathe all ungodliness, turn in horror from wickedness], but hold fast to that which is good.

    Onthou Satan se hy sal hom voor doen n Engel van die Lig. En Satan werk juis binne in die kerke. Satan soek nie nie sondaars nie want hy het die sondaars alreeds in sy hande. Satan sal juis die kerk van God aanval, want sy doel is om ons weg te lei van Jesus af. Die ander belangrike Bybelse leering is dat daar op verskeie pleke in die Woord gewaarskuwings oor valse profete en vals leeringe. Dit is dan ook waarteen die Heilige Gees ons waarsku. En weet jy die valse kerke sal nie sommer die verse aan haal en preek oor nie en as hulle wel preek daar oor neem hulle weg en pas dan die Woord aan om by hulle te pas.

    1 Timothy 4:1-2 (Amplified Bible)
    1BUT THE [Holy] Spirit distinctly and expressly declares that in latter times some will turn away from the faith, giving attention to deluding and seducing spirits and doctrines that demons teach, 2 Through the hypocrisy and pretensions of liars whose consciences are seared (cauterized),
    2 Corinthians 11:12-16 (Amplified Bible)

    12But what I do, I will continue to do, [for I am determined to maintain this independence] in order to cut off the claim of those who would like [to find an occasion and incentive] to claim that in their boasted [mission] they work on the same terms that we do. 13 For such men are false apostles [spurious, counterfeits], deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles (special messengers) of Christ (the Messiah).,14 And it is no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light; 15 So it is not surprising if his servants also masquerade as ministers of righteousness. [But] their end will correspond with their deeds.

  27. Robbie

    Ah there you are. Alan needs some to talk to about Rugby. Me being girlie and all, I feel I just wont be able to express the passion as well as you oak (trees) can. He is English, Kiwi and an Aussie, forgive him in advance for this and then dialogue the emerging way ahahaha.

  28. blank Elmarie A says:

    Leon

    Elmarie jy ken lyk my ook jou Bybel. Ek ken Gal. 5 baie goed. Dit gaan oor die vrug van die GEES.

    Leon dit is net met die genade van God en die leiding van die Heilige Gees dat ek elke dag die Woord leer en ineem en ondek wat se wonderlike skatte in die Woord van God vir ons agter gelaat is toe Jesus na Sy Vader toe is om vir Sy kinders n plekkie te gaan voorberei in die Hemel. Ek sal in my hele leeftyd nooit kan se ek ken die Bybel nie want ek leer elke dag en bid dat ek die vooreg sal he tot aan die einde van my dae as dit God behaag om my te spaar. Ek dank en prys God ook elke dag dat hy vir my die woord openbaar met die hulp van die Heilige Gees.

    Ek is verbly om te wet jy weet van die vrug van die Gees in Gal 5.

    Ek voel net julle is besig om Kobus uitmekaar te trek en dit wil vir my voorkom of nie die “guts” het om homself te gaan konfronteer nie.

    Leon as jy mooi gaan lees op die kommentaare wat mense lewer hier wat nie saam met die blog stem nie, sal jy kan sien dat hulle net gewaarsku word teen dit wat vals is waaraan hulle in glo. Kobus is n valse profeet en dit is ooglopend as jy gaan ondersoek instel en sy bediening van nader bekyk staan dit soos n paal bo water uit. Dit mag ook nie van die kerk weer hou nie ons moet die basuin blaas soos ons gese word in die woord.

    Hoeveel siele het julle al vir Jesus gewen.

    Leon n mens se werk vir Jesus begin by ou eie huis en dan verder na familie en dan na vriende en dan soos mens rondbeweeg tussen vreemde mense asook jou werksplek. Verder vekondig ek die Goeie Nuus die Woord van Jesus daagliks aan die mense wie God op my pad plaas. Ek is geseent om te kan rondreis vir my werk en ek werk nie vir n werkgewer nie. Geen mens kan siele vir Jesus wen behalwe as dit die wil van God is nie. Mense soos Kobus verkondig n valse evangelie wat juis mense verlei deur om te se ons gaan deur werke te doen in die hemel kom en ander valshede. Lees asb die artikels van Pof Johan Malan by bibleguidence.co.za en jy sal moonlik verstaan en dit is my gebed dat jy dit verstaan. Ek hou nie boek van hoeveel mense ek van Jesus en die Woord vertel of verkondig nie. Doen jy dit om te tel?? Ek maak ook nie aanspraak dat ek soveel en soveel mense vir Jesus gewen het nie want ek glo God weet want hy ken elkeen van ons se harte. Ons mag nie “boast” oor sulke dinge nie dit is n sonde.

    Mark 16:15
    And He said to them, Go into all the world and preach and publish openly the good news (the Gospel) to every creature [of the whole human race].

    Omtrent my rykdom, wil ek jou net graag reghelp. Ek het genoem dat ek geseën is daarmee en dus nie nodig het om ‘n werkgewer se tyd te gebruik om ander mense uit te trek nie.

    Weet jy Leon ek is ook geseen en bepaal my eie werk tyd. Ek moet se ek verkies bo alles om vir Jesus te werk.

    As julle eerder jul energie gebruik om iemand, dalk ‘n kollega ‘n friend of iemand naby jou om op die regte pad te kom.

    Leon DIE Groot opdrag van Jesus is om die woord te verkondig daagliks, uurliks, tydig en ontydig. En ek gehoorsaam daagliks en poog deur gebed om sterk te staan. Gaan kyk net asb na hoeveel mense ons bereik ook deur hierdie skrywes. Ek tel nie sluke goed nie want ons word nerens in die Woord gese om siele te tel nie. Net God almagtig alleen kan dit doen, want hy ken elke kind wat na hom toe kom se hart persoonlik.

    As die waarheid dan na beledigings klink, dan dink ek het jy regtig iets om aan te dink

    Leon die waarheid kan nooit na n belediging klink nie. Jesus ken ons elkeen se hart individueel en geen mens kan se hy ken n ander se hart nie. Ons het wel die Vrugte van die Gees soos in Gal 5 waar aan ons, ons mede chirstene kan ken, maar nie hulle harte nie. Die waarhied van die saak is dat daar n ander valse Evangelie vekondig word in die tye waar ons nou leef en ons moet waak en bid daarteen.

    Galatians 1:9
    As we said before, so I now say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel different from or contrary to that which you received [from us], let him be accursed (anathema, devoted to destruction, doomed to eternal punishment)!

    Galatians 1:7
    Not that there is [or could be] any other [genuine Gospel], but there are [obviously] some who are troubling and disturbing and bewildering you [ with a different kind of teaching which they offer as a gospel] and want to pervert and distort the Gospel of Christ (the Messiah) [into something which it absolutely is not]. 1 Peter 1:14
    [Live] as children of obedience [to God]; do not conform yourselves to the evil desires [that governed you] in your former ignorance [when you did not know the requirements of the Gospel].

    Vrede en Groete in Jesus naam

  29. blank Elmarie A says:

    Robbie

    Rain is one of the most beautiful elements God created 🙂 and he is so merciful ain’t He. Amen!!!

    Now you got me lol lol huh what do ya mean maybe i’m just tired to understand. 🙂

  30. blank Leon says:

    Elmarie, ek is so gelukkig om te kan sê dat ek in ‘n baie klein AGS gemeentetjie is, waar ons almal mekaar ken, lief het en stig. Ons is maar ongeveer 36 gesinne in die gemeente.

    Ek sal graag met jou wil sit en gesels oor die dinge wat regtig saak maak in die lewe. (Godsdiens) Ek glo ons kan lank en lekker gesels daaroor.

    Jy sê jy reis baie rond. As jy ooit in Sabie omgewing kom is jy welkom om my te laat weet en ons sal jou met groot graagte ontmoed.

    Ek het Neville genoem omdat ek van hom weet deurdat van my familie in sy kerk is. Ek het hom geleer ken toe ek nog baie jonk was en in die wêreld geleef het. Hy het toe nog sy Gym in Kerkstraat in Pretoria gehad en hy self ook nog jonk was.

    Ek weet nie veel van sy leering nie, daarom het ek oor hom gevra. Dankie vir jou antwoord omtrent hom.

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