What a Tragedy ‘Prophet’ Kobus van Rensburg

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[NEWS UPDATE – Kobus van Rensburg claims God healed him, and is telling all his followers this.  It has come to my attention that Kobus van Rensburg is in remission, BUT he did receive medication and Chemotherapy.  Kobus van Rensburg is still preaching Latter Rain Manifest Sons of God teaching and even more so promoting that one can be IMMORTAL on earth.  He also teaches his followers that they are Christ.  Please read the comments below (there are many of them) to see the degree of heresy and insanity taught by Kobus van Rensburg.  Also note his followers are not shy in threatening those who stand again Kobus van Rensburg.]

It’s a Tragedy

It has come to my attention that Kobus van Rensburg from Spirit Word Ministries has cancer and is very ill from what I have heard.  His wife Annalise is appearing more and more on his Spirit Word TV channel instead of Kobus as he battles to speak or is just not well enough.  There is very little information about this on the Internet.  Almost as if no one is supposed to find out.

I wrote an article on Kobus here about 2 years ago exposing him as a false prophet, who proclaimed thousands healed from cancer and HIV/AIDS, etc.  He still is a false teacher – nothing has changed, except he himself now has cancer.

So back to Kobus, and thinking about this situation of his.  The only thoughts that come to my mind is;  ‘what a tragedy’.   Here is a man who you can’t even approach and say,

“Dear Kobus, have you heard about Jesus Christ.  He is the ONLY One who can save you. Repent of your sin, repent of everything you have done.  It makes no difference what you have done, God forgives everyone who comes to Him asking for forgiveness.  Jesus Christ the Son of God gave His life so that you may receive eternal life – if you want it.  If you don’t want it and prefer to try be your own little god, you WILL fail and you WILL find yourself facing eternal punishment for doing exactly what Adam and Eve did by falling for Satan’s lie, ‘You surely will not die if you want to be like God?’  Well, yes Kobus you will.

Genesis 3:4-5

4  “The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die!
5  “For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Satan wanted to like God:

Isaiah 14:14

14  ‘I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’

Satan is the father of Lies:

John 8:44

“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

How easy it is for Satan to lead men astray:

2 Corinthians 11:3

But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.

There is a face book site dedicated to Kobus van Rensburg (having said that it does not state what’s wrong with him).  All you will find is people leaving comments praying for him to get well soon. You will see the theme of ‘immortality’ come across through the many comments left.  You see Kobus van Rensburg has reached godhood, and is therefore immortal.   Are you confused?  Don’t worry.  Me too.  Apparently in Latter Rain / Manifest Sons of God teaching you can be dead and alive all at the same time….I think.

Facebook: Kobus Van Rensburg will live and not die!!!!!

Now, it’s all very well to pray for Kobus to get well and that God heals him, but without Kobus coming to the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved all hope is lost.

Kobus went to see T B Joshua (Church of All Nations SCOAN)  in Nigeria and reported that after coming back to SA had a great anointing of power in his life.  Well Kobus, with the demonic power given to you, you were given demonic cancer as well.

“Repent Kobus, before it’s too late.  You are not immortal, you are not a god, you are a sinner in dire need of a Saviour and that Saviour is Jesus Christ the Son of God, who gave His life that you may be saved.  Through genuine repentance of your sin (everything you have done) and believing in Jesus Christ through faith you can be saved.  You might not beat this cancer Kobus, but you will beat a 2nd death and receive eternal life if only you turn from your wickedness and ask God forgiveness through His Only begotten Son Jesus Christ.  Humble yourself for once before the One and Only Living God like everyone else on this earth will have to do sooner or later.  Get on your knees Kobus, you are no better than anyone else on this earth of ours.  I repent every day of my life for the sinner that I am who needs constant saving.  What makes you think you are so special?  You are not!  Ask God for forgiveness before it’s too late”.

If anyone can find more information on Kobus’ condition, it would be appreciated.  I have contacted Spirit Word Ministries and received no reply.

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429 Responses

  1. Elmarie A says:

    Juan
    >>this is a warning to you, because you stretched your hand to a prophet your hand have become deformed, your choices & actions have become shrinked and shrivelled, and in one hour sudden colapse will come<<

    Do you realise what you are doing here and how you are representing yourself by your words.
    # 1 John 2:11
    But he who hates (detests, despises) his brother [ in Christ] is in darkness and walking (living) in the dark; he is straying and does not perceive or know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.
    1 John 2:10-12 (in Context) 1 John 2 (Whole Chapter)

    Wich God are you serving Jean tell me is it Kobus van Rensburg or God who is the Almighty and who sent Jesus who died on the cross for our sins. You are serving Kobus van Rensburg it is so obvious.
    Luke 16:13
    No servant is able to serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stand by and be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon (riches, or anything in which you trust and on which you rely).

    You are in my prayers.

  2. Juan

    Just to let you know. I am still ok 😉

  3. blank cecilia says:

    Whaau! (to use NAR language! but I just had 2!) Juan is the first negative prophet I’v encountered over the net in a VERY Looooong time! I’m glad u’r stil ok Deborah!
    so – I’m just wondering: is this the ‘prophetic spirit’ that’s being imparted on these meetings?
    so as far as I know Deborah, your mentor is the Lord Jesus Christ through Holy Spirit, and your teacher is Holy Spirit through Word of God, yes? and did this person just said your mentor walks in dishonor?
    Whaau!!!

  4. C

    Yip. Boggles the mind I tell ja.

  5. Elmarie A says:

    Juan
    >>1Ch 16:19 When you were few in number, and of little account, and sojourners in it,
    1Ch 16:20 wandering from nation to nation, from one kingdom to another people,
    1Ch 16:21 he allowed no one to oppress them; he rebuked kings on their account,
    1Ch 16:22 saying, “Touch not my anointed ones, do my prophets no harm!”<<

    It is important that both you, friend, and Kobus van Rensburg understand the context and history of the above passage that you quote. I will keep it really short and simple, but before I do, I certainly need to stress that by attacking true believers when they are, through love, simply trying to correct error Scripturally, is certainly not the gentle way of the Lord Jesus which we follow.

    Would you pause for a short while and imagine the world today, had the Gospel been written by violent followers of false gods, false apostles and false prophets. Through the atoning Blood of Jesus, the crucifixion (which He certainly did not protest violently) and the gentle but firm reprimanding of those sheep who went astray, He showed us all the way to teach and lead our lives. Jesus certainly never threatened even the worst sinners, nor spoke curses upon those who crucified Him. Least of all their hands:)

    There are two simple points which you have to understand, and please be a Berean and check that which I say. DO NOT TAKE MY WORD, but test all things (1 John 4:1). I for one would be grateful to you if you would be so kind as to point out this verse also to our friend Kobus Van Rensburg.

    One: there are no prophets today as there were in Biblical times. There is no need for them today, as the Word of God has been written and completed (the Bible) and the Word is sufficient to teach, prove, correct, discipline and explain how we should live and believe (2 Timothy 3:16). If the sacrifice which Jesus (THE Anointed One) made, in dying for all our sins (John 3:16) was not enough, and we still need tiny little men calling themselves prophets today to convince men of God's Almighty power, then you would agree Jesus was not the Saviour. Therefore van Rensburg is a false prophet.

    Two: The passage of Scripture you quote above refers to the Jews (God's anointed 1 Ch 16:22) as they were led by God through many nations, kingdoms and people (1 Ch 16:20). They needed prophets with them to TELL THEM WHAT GOD WANTED THEM TO DO. God kept the "few of the Jews in the trek" (1 Ch 16:19) safe from the nations they travelled through on their way to the promised land (certainly not Klerksdorp) and protected them supernaturally from oppressors and strange kings (1 Ch 16:21). That was the miracle demonstrating the unequalled Glory and omnipotence of God's power.

    Therefore, if I am mistaken and you or Kobus van Rensburg are Jewish, this passage DOES apply to your forefathers, and if you have not accepted the New Covenant (New Testament rules) then you are both still under the Mosaic Law and in big trouble. I have not read any posts above the last one you posted, so if I am repeating anything posted before that I certainly apologize to the writer thereof. God bless. Grant

  6. blank Berean says:

    My immediate response to this tragedy is why does Kobus not heal himself?
    Are his gifts of healing only for others? (see LUKE 4: 23)
    Surely as a “Prophet” and a “Man of Faith” he is able to beat this thing with his hands tied behind his back. Or…….???????

    BEREAN

  7. Berean

    Well he has been ‘healed’, he is no longer showing signs of cancer. So under normal medical terms that would be called remission. And if I am not mistaken he did go for medical treatment.

    His progress back to full healthy status is progressing. So there was no immediate healing as Jesus did in the Bible where the person was healed instantly and completely.

    But Satan does heal> Oy yes. He will take away what he gave you and replace it with something else.

    So we have a few things to think about here: 1) He is in remission due to medical treatment, 2) his sickness has been replaced with more power to deceive – as is clearly visible due to people now really thinking this guy is superhuman.

  8. blank Jean says:

    Hey Juan

    I do believe that the “mu-tie” you have used against Deborah did not work so well…
    OR
    Maybe Kobus van Rensburg will have a stronger “prescription” for you… Go back to him and complain because He gave you a “fake-watered-down-anointing” because it did not work !

    Actually, I must thank you. You have PROVEN beyond doubt that the “anointing” of Kobus is Fake… it does not work.

    THANKS JUAN

  9. Juan

    Yeah, I’m still alive… and kicking. I am however shrivelled from a tad of sunburn on the nose but other than that all is A-ok.

  10. blank Disgusted says:

    Just a bit concerned to see all this bickering and we supposed to be on the same side – really people, it is wrong, what would an unsaved person reading this site think of our religion? Surely they would be put off. Wow! The amount of ridiculing and ganging up – it belongs in a soapie. I myself have chosen to deal less with evangelical tv and more with the precious Word and make sure to check anything said by man against it so as not to be deceived – and not condemn the person who made the mistake- everyone is human after all and no one is perfect. Just a thought though – we are told to stay in the Word so we may not faulter – I knew a couple of people who knew Kobus and they say he is continually reading the Bible – at home, all over – he can even be found at two in the a.m lots of the time just praying and reading the Word in their church- more I am sure than the average follower- they say He truly loves Jesus. My worry is this – if he puts in so much effort to stay true to the Word and yet you say he is led by satan – what chance do the rest of us have? Thanks for reading this and may God bless you all!

  11. Disgusted

    I dunno, what would an usaved person thinks when they see kobus’ followers curse people and hope they die. I know: They will see Kobus van Rensburg is a crack pot and that this his ministry is a mockery of anything ‘normal’.

    Disgusted, when you understand that there is nothing in this world that can get someone saved BUT the Holy Spirit who leads us into truth, then you will understand that the only thing you have left is to warn those trapped in Kobus’ claws to break free from his evil deception.

    What are the chances for the rest of us you say? Well, 1) you have a brain? 2) You have a heart? 3) You either want to know Jesus Christ or you don’t 4) You can’t stand before God one day and point at Kobus and say well, that man made me dislike you… God.

  12. blank Jean says:

    Hi Disgusted
    You said:
    >>I knew a couple of people who knew Kobus and they say he is continually reading the Bible – at home, all over – he can even be found at two in the a.m lots of the time just praying and reading the Word in their church- more I am sure than the average follower- they say He truly loves Jesus.<>they say that he truly loves Jesus<<

    Jesus himself said:
    Joh 14:21 "The person who has my commandments and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I, too, will love him and reveal myself to him."

    If this scripture is the Truth and you say Kobus loves the Truth, why then did Kobus think it necessary to go to a man (TB Joshua) to get a "stronger" anointing and revelations ?
    Why doesn't Kobus teach the Truth that Jesus would reveal to him if he followed Jesus and his commandments?

    I have a friend who is a follower of Kobus. This friend currently bears/believes the following "fruit" of the teachings of Kobus:
    He believes he cannot be "touched" by Satan because he has got the anointing…
    He believes he cannot get ill because he has got the anointing . . .
    He believes he is successful in his business because he has got the anointing…
    He believes anyone who speaks against Kobus will be cursed and become ill . . .
    He believes that he will be "rewarded" one day by God because he followed Kobus…

    These are just some of the beliefs that was "implanted" into his life by Kobus.

    Now, Mr/Mrs Disgusted, will you still "love" or "defend" Kobus if you have a child who followed Kobus's teachings and believes the above "trash" ?
    Will you not expose the false believes and try to correct you child so that he may see eternity with God one day ?
    Will you not try to warn your child to stay away from that false teacher who taught him those false doctrines that leads you to hell ?
    This ball is now in your courtyard, play it – if you can.

    I believe that my displeasure/anger towards Kobus is the same as Jesus had towards the pharisees. They also studied the Scriptures but taught their own interpretations and versions of it. In so doing the people of Israel were lead astray and ended up in killing the Son of God.

    Disgusted, I have been there myself – I got the T shirt – I burned it – and got arrested for doing it.

    Paul in his ministry warned the followers of Christ and then attacked and exposed these false teachers…
    2Co 11:12 And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground
    from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal
    with us in the things they boast about.
    2Co 11:13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as
    apostles of Christ.
    2Co 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
    2Co 11:15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants
    of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

    Come on Disgusted, lets give these exposing/discerning ministries their place and be thankful that some believers are being "rescued" from hell in this way.
    Even if only ONE person got the truth here and changed his ways unto salvation, it would have been worth it and "reward" will be given one day for this.
    I know of at least two people who discovered Truth on this site and have been "rescued" from a false believe system.
    PRAISE GOD !

  13. I don’t know the owner of this site but the accusations made against Kobus are false. He is a good man. I don’t agree with him on immortality or tithing but know that he is a good man that is saved and loves people. He understands a lot of the Gospel. Kobus and I had our disagreements but that does not make him a sinner or unsaved. I can almost feel a bit of joy in the heart of the writer of the article about Kobus having cancer. I think you need to repent. If I come to you and say repent and ask forgiveness will you do it? No!! You will not. You sound so arrogant man. Just repent and get of from your high horse and come down to earth. I wonder if this will even be published of this site. Kobus is healed from cancer and going strong. Medical reports declared him healed as fat as I know. I am not a big KOBUS FAN but he is doing great work. If we don’t agree on all things it does not give us the right to try and bad mouth a person. Just repent and delete this blog.

  14. Bertie

    How about you read all the comments in this section, ok? And then tell me if Kobus followers seem like Christians to you. Btw just to let you know. I am still fine after being cursed to death.

    Do you know Jesus Christ the Son of God? Do you have the conviction of the Holy Spirit in your life? If not, please go and open your bible and read up on salvation and how to be saved. Here are 3 verses for a good start.

    “REPENT THEREFORE and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord.” (Acts 3:19)

    “IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9)

    “… if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes to righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made to salvation.” (Romans 10:9)

    I see you are a minister of sorts. You should now what to do. I hope you preach the genuine message of salvation to your congregation.

  15. blank cecilia says:

    Bertie, somewhere you lost it! YOU “feel” a bit of joy in the heart of the blog-owner and HE / SHE must repent because YOU feel something? Oh no, now I’ve heard (read) everything!
    Oh, and, the owner of this blog stays in a kinda-a-small sized department… can’t keep ’em horsies in there!
    “Medical reports declared him healed as fat as I know.” Ooohhh nnnoooooo! was Kobus FAT? lol – looked like you supplied our dose of humor for the day!
    For someone who is “not a big KOBUS FAN” you sure are coming up rather strongly for the man?
    and as for being an evangelist, this is really a bad bundle of words you chose to comment on a blog? I’m sure Ed E (who I have met personally) did not have an influence here …..

  16. blank Daniel says:

    Prophet Kobus is 100% CANCER FREE and you say nothing about it you servant of satan. He is completely healed. HALELLUJAH!!! PRAISE THE LORD for the man of God. The devil is defeated and all his followers are left in shame…

  17. Daniel

    Which god healed him?

  18. Elmarie A says:

    Daniel
    Yikes.
    Yes Daniel please tell us which god healed him.

    Daniel you seem bitter?

  19. blank Frans Goosen says:

    Rom 14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep. 16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.
    17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,”[a] says the Lord. 20 Therefore

    “ If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
    If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
    For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.”[b]

    21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good

    Deborah

    Wees jy maar net versigtig dat jy nie aan die verkeerde kant van die lyn staan nie. Laat die oordeel aan God oor. Alles gebeur met n doel. Ja Kobus was baie siek vir watter rede weet ek nie. Maar Job het ook deur n harde tyd gegaan sodat sy geloof getoets kon word. So kan jy die mense in die bybel gaan opnoem wat deur beproewings is en better ander kant uitgekom het. Dit is nie jou (DEBORAH) se plek om te oordeel nie laat dit aan God oor. Hoekom begin jy n web site om Kobus van Rensburg te down???? Wens jy dat God jou eerder op so n manier wil gebruik? Wel ek het vir jou nuus dit begin nie by websites waar jy ander mense sleg se nie!!!!!

    Begin jou bybel lees en begin met die klein dingetjies in die lewe en met tyd sal God jou oor groter dinge aanstel.

  20. Frans

    Excuse me? So you are in full agreement that he preaches a false gospel and leads people astray?

    If he was healed by the One and only living God he would no longer be preaching lies. But he is still preaching lies. You becareful who’s side you chose. A lie (Kobus van Rensburg) or Jesus Christ (The WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE).

    Btw Frans,if you can read, you will notice this website is not about Kobus van Rensburg.

    Also, Frans, scoll up and read the wonderful Christian comments made to me by wonderful Christian followers. Kobus is NOT Christian, and until he gets on his knees before Jesus Christ and repents, he has no hope.

    And the verse you quote HAS NOTHING to do with my article exposing Kobus as a false teacher who is spiritually KILLING people who go to him and seek his snake-oil.

  21. blank Frans Goosen says:

    Who appointed you to decide what teachings is false and what is true? God? If so please remember to bring your letter of appointment on the day of your judgment!!!!

    What great things did you do for God? Do you have your own church? Do you preach the gospel? In what way are God using you that you can even think you are special enough to say I can discern the spirits? What have you done for God?

    Please listen to me: What if you are wrong? Do you think you will escape God’s judgment?

    I think you maybe translated my Afrikaans a bit wrong. I am not choosing a side. I just want you to think about things. Judge not that you be not judged.

    Look at the following joke that you made: Self made prophet: $100
    Self made rabbi blankie: $300
    Self made church empire: $6,000,000
    On hands and knees eating grass and sand around William Branham’s grave in the USA: Priceless

    Can you see the sarcasm and mockery? Do you think that this is the spirit of Christ in you? Do you think after this that people can say wow Deborah is from God? Do you think that this shows your Christian character?

  22. blank Frans Goosen says:

    Deborah

    Why did you delete my post to you? You have nothing to hide?

    [EDITED: AS THIS IS STUFF YOU SAID IN YOUR PREVIOS COMMENT WHICH I DID NOT DELETE- below are extra comments]

    Do you know Kobus van Rensburg? Do you only judge him on what he teaches or do you know him as person? Did you ever spent time with him to get to know his character?

    Now I will quote you (Deborah)

    1). Kobus is NOT Christian, and until he gets on his knees before Jesus Christ and repents, he has no hope.
    2). my article exposing Kobus as a false teacher who is spiritually KILLING people who go to him and seek his snake-oil.

    Are you God? Do you think it is appropriate for you as Christian to be God and judge other people if you don’t even know them personally?

  23. Frans

    >> Who appointed you to decide what teachings is false and what is true?

    1 Timothy 4:1 ESV “Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons”

    Do you not know the difference between what is true and false Frans?

    >> please remember to bring your letter of appointment on the day of your judgment!!!!

    2 Timothy 3:16 “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,”

    >> What great things did you do for God? Do you have your own church? Do you preach the gospel? In what way are God using you that you can even think you are special enough to say I can discern the spirits? What have you done for God?

    1 Corinthians 4:6-7 6 I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. 7
    For who sees anything different in you? What do you have that you did not receive? If then you received it, why do you boast as if you did not receive it?

    >> Judge not that you be not judged.

    James 3:10-12 “From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. Does a spring pour forth from the same opening both fresh and salt water? Can a fig tree, my brothers, bear olives, or a grapevine produce figs? Neither can a salt pond yield fresh water. ”

    >> Can you see the sarcasm and mockery? Do you think that this is the spirit of Christ in you?

    Yes I can see the sarcasm and mockery from you… 1 Peter 4:16 ” Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in that name. ”

    >> I am not choosing a side.

    Or course you are not Frans, this is why you accuse me by defending a false teacher.

    2 Corinthians 6:14-18 “Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”

    You want to silence a person who cares to warn others that Kobus van Rensburg is a liar and leading people to hell.

    Revelation 3:15-16 God said: “‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.”

    >> Look at the following joke that you made: Self made prophet: $100
    Self made rabbi blankie: $300
    Self made church empire: $6,000,000
    On hands and knees eating grass and sand around William Branham’s grave in the USA: Priceless

    >> On hands and knees eating grass and sand around William Branham’s grave in the USA: Priceless

    This is to show how gullable people are that they eat the rotten food that is fed to them. BECAUSE they DO NOT READ their BIBLES.

    Deuteronomy 18:10-12 “There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you. ”

    1 Chronicles 10:14 “He did not seek guidance from the Lord. Therefore the Lord put him to death and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse. “

  24. Elmarie A says:

    Frans Goosen

    Who appointed you to decide what teachings is false and what is true? God? If so please remember to bring your letter of appointment on the day of your judgment!!!!

    No one needs an appointed as we have the Word of God to test and prove all things by. Where does it say in the Scriptures we need a letter of appointment for the day of judgement? Yikes what have you been taught Frans??

    Do you have a Bible? Then read it and study it please!!!!

    Do you know that we are Commanded to test all things to see whether they are from God. Well Kobus was tested and failed.

    John 3:19
    The [basis of the] judgment (indictment, the test by which men are judged, the ground for the sentence) lies in this: the Light has come into the world, and people have loved the darkness rather than and more than the Light, for their works (deeds) were evil.

    1 Thessalonians 5:21
    But test and prove all things [until you can recognize] what is good; [to that] hold fast.

    1 John 4:1
    BELOVED, DO not put faith in every spirit, but prove (test) the spirits to discover whether they proceed from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the world.

    Kobus van Rensburg is a false prophet full stop.

  25. blank Frans Goosen says:

    Deborah

    Still why do you think you are right? 1 Tim4:1 “Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons”

    What if you are the deceitful spirits? Please note that I am not judging I am only asking?

    I can see that you know your bible very well and can quote a lot of scripture so can the devil. Please note that I am not judging I am only asking?

    WHAT MAKES YOU DIVRENT ? What if you have a deceitful spirit in you that tries to break down Kobus ministry? Why should we believe you what makes you different? What have you achieved in life?

    What if you are not spiritually mature enough to understand Kobus teachings? Maybe it is to deep for you? Maybe you are not on a spiritual level to understand it.

    Lets come back to the basics: Each person must discern for himself what is of God and what is not, test the spirits.

    You are going to bring judgment over yourself with this website, if you think Kobus is a false teacher keep it to yourself and don’t listen to him.

    This will be my last correspondence to you on your website because I wont be visiting it anymore. If you wish to speak to me you have my email address please mail me.

  26. Frans

    >> Do you know Kobus van Rensburg? Do you only judge him on what he teaches or do you know him as person? Did you ever spent time with him to get to know his character?

    If you read the following articles you will clearly see he preaches a gospel that CONTRADICTS the Word of God.
    Character means nothing. I am sure you are a nice person too.

    >> 1). Kobus is NOT Christian, and until he gets on his knees before Jesus Christ and repents, he has no hope.

    1 Timothy 2:1-15 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, …

    1 John 2:1-29 “My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: …. ”

    >> 2). my article exposing Kobus as a false teacher who is spiritually KILLING people who go to him and seek his snake-oil.

    2 Corinthians 11:13-15 “For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.”

    1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,

    What does the Bible tell us to do with people like Kobus who has openly said numerous times that he is a little god and preaches teaching that man will become immortal on earth because they have a form of godliness.

    Genesis 3:1-4 “Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” 2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, 3 but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” 4 But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil

    2 Timothy 3:5 “Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. ”

    2 Thessalonians 3:6 “Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. ”

    >> Do you think it is appropriate for you as Christian to be God and judge other people if you don’t even know them personally?

    We do not judge another’s sin as commanded by the Word of God. But we are to judge false teaching and twisted gospels against the Word of God.

    So, I suggest you stop judging me.

    Do you accept false teaching, are you happy that people’s spiritual lives are being ruined because of false doctrines that Kobus teaches? Do you want people led astray when the Bible says:

    Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray.”

    Should you leave people alone so that the blind lead the blind to hell? Would you allow this to happen to your OWN FAMILY? Or will you try your best to protect them from harm?

    Matthew 15:1 “Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”

    Regarding boasting and huge mega churches and large gatherings where the preacher proclaims to lead the group on behalf of God.

    Matthew 6:5 “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.

    In general the bible says that:

    Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

    EXPOSING FALSE TEACHING / WARNING OTHERS / APPEALING TO OTHERS TO BE CAREFUL

    Romans 16:17-18 I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.

    Jude 1:4 For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

    If Kobus does not stop what he is doing:

    2 Peter 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

    And to you Frans:

    Galatians 1:6-9
    I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

  27. Frans

    Oh I forgot to attach the links to Kobus’ false teaching that you want to defend so much:

    https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/06/kobus-van-rensburg-self-anointed-prophet/
    https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/
    https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/t-b-joshua-the-deceiver/

    Frans, why don’t you know your bible well? Maybe something for you to think about.

  28. Frans

    Um, the Holy Spirit that abides in us is what makes a person spiritually MATURE to understand what is the TRUTH vs what is false. If you don’t know the difference Frans, then go study the bible and you too will beable to discern RIGHT from wrong.

    After you have read all the EVIDENCE that Kobus does not preach the Word of God but another deceptiful doctrine, then can I ask nicely that you go read this:

    Understand that I would never pressure you into reading your Bible, following lies is something you chose to do because you do not love the TRUTH.

  29. Frans

    On more thing. If you are ever robbed, please do not go and report the crime to the police so that people may be warned there is a criminal out there that will harm people. Ok? But if you do decided to practice what YOU PREACH, that is ok too 🙂

  30. Elmarie A says:

    Frans

    Lets come back to the basics: Each person must discern for himself what is of God and what is not, test the spirits.

    It does not stop there wake up please!!!!!

    Ezekiel 33 (Amplified Bible)
    3If when he sees the sword coming upon the land, he blows the trumpet and warns the people,
    4Then whoever hears the sound of the trumpet and does not take warning, and the sword comes and takes him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
    5He heard the sound of the trumpet and did not take warning; his blood shall be upon himself. But he who takes warning shall save his life.
    6But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet and the people are not warned, and the sword comes and takes any one of them, he is taken away in and for his perversity and iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.

    Mark 13:22
    False Christs (Messiahs) and false prophets will arise and show signs and [work] miracles to deceive and lead astray, if possible, even the elect (those God has chosen out for Himself).

    Revelation 17:14
    They will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them; for He is Lord of lords and King of kings–and those with Him and on His side are chosen and called [elected] and loyal and faithful followers.

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