What a Tragedy ‘Prophet’ Kobus van Rensburg

Elmarie A says:

Tessa

“Is there such a thing as absolute truth / universal truth?”

Answer: In order to understand absolute or universal truth, we must begin by defining truth. Truth, according to the dictionary, is “conformity to fact or actuality; a statement proven to be or accepted as true.” Some people would say that there is no true reality, only perceptions and opinions. Others would argue that there must be some absolute reality or truth.

One view says that there are no absolutes that define reality. Those who hold this view believe everything is relative to something else, and thus there can be no actual reality. Because of that, there are ultimately no moral absolutes, no authority for deciding if an action is positive or negative, right or wrong. This view leads to “situational ethics,” the belief that what is right or wrong is relative to the situation. There is no right or wrong; therefore, whatever feels or seems right at the time and in that situation is right. Of course, situational ethics leads to a subjective, “whatever feels good” mentality and lifestyle, which has a devastating effect on society and individuals. This is postmodernism, creating a society that regards all values, beliefs, lifestyles, and truth claims as equally valid.

The other view holds that there are indeed absolute realities and standards that define what is true and what is not. Therefore, actions can be determined to be either right or wrong by how they measure up to those absolute standards. If there are no absolutes, no reality, chaos ensues. Take the law of gravity, for instance. If it were not an absolute, we could not be certain we could stand or sit in one place until we decided to move. Or if two plus two did not always equal four, the effects on civilization would be disastrous. Laws of science and physics would be irrelevant, and commerce would be impossible. What a mess that would be! Thankfully, two plus two does equal four. There is absolute truth, and it can be found and understood.

To make the statement that there is no absolute truth is illogical. Yet, today, many people are embracing a cultural relativism that denies any type of absolute truth. A good question to ask people who say, “There is no absolute truth” is this: “Are you absolutely sure of that?” If they say “yes,” they have made an absolute statement—which itself implies the existence of absolutes. They are saying that the very fact there is no absolute truth is the one and only absolute truth.

Beside the problem of self-contradiction, there are several other logical problems one must overcome to believe that there are no absolute or universal truths. One is that all humans have limited knowledge and finite minds and, therefore, cannot logically make absolute negative statements. A person cannot logically say, “There is no God” (even though many do so), because, in order to make such a statement, he would need to have absolute knowledge of the entire universe from beginning to end. Since that is impossible, the most anyone can logically say is “With the limited knowledge I have, I do not believe there is a God.”

Another problem with the denial of absolute truth/universal truth is that it fails to live up to what we know to be true in our own consciences, our own experiences, and what we see in the real world. If there is no such thing as absolute truth, then there is nothing ultimately right or wrong about anything. What might be “right” for you does not mean it is “right” for me. While on the surface this type of relativism seems to be appealing, what it means is that everybody sets his own rules to live by and does what he thinks is right. Inevitably, one person’s sense of right will soon clash with another’s. What happens if it is “right” for me to ignore traffic lights, even when they are red? I put many lives at risk. Or I might think it is right to steal from you, and you might think it is not right. Clearly, our standards of right and wrong are in conflict. If there is no absolute truth, no standard of right and wrong that we are all accountable to, then we can never be sure of anything. People would be free to do whatever they want—murder, rape, steal, lie, cheat, etc., and no one could say those things would be wrong. There could be no government, no laws, and no justice, because one could not even say that the majority of the people have the right to make and enforce standards upon the minority. A world without absolutes would be the most horrible world imaginable.

From a spiritual standpoint, this type of relativism results in religious confusion, with no one true religion and no way of having a right relationship with God. All religions would therefore be false because they all make absolute claims regarding the afterlife. It is not uncommon today for people to believe that two diametrically opposed religions could both be equally “true,” even though both religions claim to have the only way to heaven or teach two totally opposite “truths.” People who do not believe in absolute truth ignore these claims and embrace a more tolerant universalism that teaches all religions are equal and all roads lead to heaven. People who embrace this worldview vehemently oppose evangelical Christians who believe the Bible when it says that Jesus is “the way, and the truth, and the life” and that He is the ultimate manifestation of truth and the only way one can get to heaven (John 14:6).

Tolerance has become the one cardinal virtue of the postmodern society, the one absolute, and, therefore, intolerance is the only evil. Any dogmatic belief—especially a belief in absolute truth—is viewed as intolerance, the ultimate sin. Those who deny absolute truth will often say that it is all right to believe what you want, as long as you do not try to impose your beliefs on others. But this view itself is a belief about what is right and wrong, and those who hold this view most definitely do try to impose it on others. They set up a standard of behavior which they insist others follow, thereby violating the very thing they claim to uphold—another self-contradicting position. Those who hold such a belief simply do not want to be accountable for their actions. If there is absolute truth, then there are absolute standards of right and wrong, and we are accountable to those standards. This accountability is what people are really rejecting when they reject absolute truth.

The denial of absolute truth/universal truth and the cultural relativism that comes with it are the logical result of a society that has embraced the theory of evolution as the explanation for life. If naturalistic evolution is true, then life has no meaning, we have no purpose, and there cannot be any absolute right or wrong. Man is then free to live as he pleases and is accountable to no one for his actions. Yet no matter how much sinful men deny the existence of God and absolute truth, they still will someday stand before Him in judgment. The Bible declares that “…what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools” (Romans 1:19-22).

Is there any evidence for the existence of absolute truth? Yes. First, there is the human conscience, that certain “something” within us that tells us the world should be a certain way, that some things are right and some are wrong. Our conscience convinces us there is something wrong with suffering, starvation, rape, pain, and evil, and it makes us aware that love, generosity, compassion, and peace are positive things for which we should strive. This is universally true in all cultures in all times. The Bible describes the role of the human conscience in Romans 2:14-16: “Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them. This will take place on the day when God will judge men’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.”

The second evidence for the existence of absolute truth is science. Science is simply the pursuit of knowledge, the study of what we know and the quest to know more. Therefore, all scientific study must by necessity be founded upon the belief that there are objective realities existing in the world and these realities can be discovered and proven. Without absolutes, what would there be to study? How could one know that the findings of science are real? In fact, the very laws of science are founded on the existence of absolute truth.

The third evidence for the existence of absolute truth/universal truth is religion. All the religions of the world attempt to give meaning and definition to life. They are born out of mankind’s desire for something more than simple existence. Through religion, humans seek God, hope for the future, forgiveness of sins, peace in the midst of struggle, and answers to our deepest questions. Religion is really evidence that mankind is more than just a highly evolved animal. It is evidence of a higher purpose and of the existence of a personal and purposeful Creator who implanted in man the desire to know Him. And if there is indeed a Creator, then He becomes the standard for absolute truth, and it is His authority that establishes that truth.

Fortunately, there is such a Creator, and He has revealed His truth to us through His Word, the Bible. Knowing absolute truth/universal truth is only possible through a personal relationship with the One who claims to be the Truth—Jesus Christ. Jesus claimed to be the only way, the only truth, the only life and the only path to God (John 14:6). The fact that absolute truth does exist points us to the truth that there is a sovereign God who created the heavens and the earth and who has revealed Himself to us in order that we might know Him personally through His Son Jesus Christ. That is the absolute truth.
http://www.gotquestions.org/absolute-truth.html

Elmarie A says:

Tessa
July 2nd, 2010 at 9:33 am

The truth hurts doesnt it!!!!

Right views of God’s truth are not an intellectual attainment, but a blessing bestowed on us by God. It is written, “a man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven”
(John 3:27). No matter how legibly a letter may be written, if the recipient is blind he cannot read it…

John 3:27 (Amplified Bible)
27 John answered, A man can receive nothing [he can claim nothing, he can [a]take unto himself nothing] except as it has been granted to him from heaven. [A man must be content to receive the gift which is given him from heaven; there is no other source.]

Psalm 40:10-12 (Amplified Bible)

10 I have not concealed Your righteousness within my heart; I have proclaimed Your faithfulness and Your salvation. I have not hid away Your steadfast love and Your truth from the great assembly.(A)
11 Withhold not Your tender mercy from me, O Lord; let Your loving-kindness and Your truth continually preserve me!
12 For innumerable evils have compassed me about; my iniquities have taken such hold on me that I am not able to look up. They are more than the hairs of my head, and my heart has failed me and forsaken me.

Amanda says:

“Tessa Christ” you are not. Repent and receive forgiveness of sins in the name of Jesus Christ Luk 24:46-47.

Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Phi 2:9-11)

let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead–by him this man is standing before you well. This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone. And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” (Act 4:10-12)

And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. (Mat 24:4-5)

And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray.
(Mat 24:11)

“You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me. I, I am the LORD, and besides me there is no savior. I declared and saved and proclaimed, when there was no strange god among you; and you are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and I am God. (Isa 43:10-12)

“Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay everyone for what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates. Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.” The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! (Rev 22:12-20)

Tessa, repent! Time is against you and you are not immortal. Jesus Christ died for your sins to save you from the wrath of God against you. Put your faith in Him!

Amanda says:

And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, (Heb 9:27)

There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
(Mat 13:50)

Repent! Jesus Christ died for you.

Word Publish says:

Amanda

Very true words I echo your words 🙂

Elmarie A says:

Amanda

My question is this can this be so that people are so blind and deaf. Yikes!

Elmarie A says:

Also Exposing Kobus Van Rensburg as a False teacher/prophet

Kobus van Rensburg (a.k.a. Prophet Kobus van Rensburg), together with his wife Annalise, are the senior pastors and sole founders of Spirit Word Ministries, situated in Stilfontein in the North-West Province of South Africa. Van Rensburg is a self- appointed prophet and his ministry focuses on signs, miracles and wonders and also teaches everything from Restoration or Dominion theology to prosperity teaching. He claims that during the last week of January 2000, the Holy Spirit fell upon him in a very special way while visiting Prophet T.B. Joshua in Lagos, Nigeria and he also claims to heal people of cancer, HIV and AIDS on a weekly basis. Spirit Word Ministries (formerly Lofdal Ministries) was started in 1985 and now has a Christian school, Bible school and various other programmes as well as a regular television broadcast in South Africa. He claims to be an anointed of God.

Coming Revival
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Kobus van Rensburg teaches:
“Only when the all things have been restored will Jesus come again. He is going to stay in heaven at the right hand of the Father. From God’s presence must first come times of refreshing. That refreshing will cause the restoration. If we seek God, we will get revival. If revival comes, restoration of all the things of which the prophets of old spoke about will come and then Jesus will return.”
(Kobus van Rensburg, Spirit Word Ministries website, TIMES OF REVIVAL)

The Bible Teaches:
This is Restoration/Dominion theology which is totally false and advocates that Christians should take power of the earth, create dominion and then, only then, will Jesus come back. Not only does this belittle and demean our Saviour, but it makes men into little demi-gods. What is fundamental to understanding the last days before Jesus comes back, is the fact that Jesus Himself said there would be an APOSTASY, a falling away, before He comes back. NOT a Revival!

“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.” – 2 Timothy 4:3-4

“But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.” – 2 Peter 2:1-3

“An astonishing and horrible thing has been committed in the land: The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule by their own power; and My people love to have it so. But what will you do in the end?” – Jeremiah 5:30-31

Rapture for Unbelievers
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Kobus van Rensburg teaches:
“THE DISOBEDIENT ARE SWEPT AWAY… Blessed is the servant who is busy. For the unfaithful servant it will be like a thief and he will be put out. In the days of Noah, the disobedient ones and unbelievers were swept away and the faithful ones were left behind and inherited the earth. In the days of the coming of the Son of Man there will be two in the field. It means that they are servants. One will be taken and one left. There will also be two at the mill, so they are working and one will be take and one left. Who will be taken? He then says the one that is a busy, faithful servant will be blessed. He will set him over the work. He will be left in the field and at the mill. The unfaithful ones will be taken out and put out where there will be weeping and grinding of teeth. Most people will be shocked now because they think that they will be taken away. It is time for the church to get peace. The ones that are busy serving will be blessed. He will be left in charge of the work. He will be left to work more and better.”
(Kobus van Rensburg, Spirit Word Ministries website, RAPTURE – TRUE OR FALSE?)

The Bible Teaches:
“For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.”
– 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18

“Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.” – Revelation 3:10

“then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment.” – 2 Peter 2:9

“Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition.” – 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

“and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.” 1 Thessalonians 1:10

Kobus van Rensburg
Signs, Wonders and Miracles
This ministry is reaching out to the whole of South Africa and beyond its borders with Signs, Miracles, Wonders and foundation Ministry, Tapes and Videos, an excellent and anointed worship team, as well as Television broadcasting.
(Spirit Word Ministries website)

The Bible Teaches:
Signs, miracles and wonders are absolutely Biblical when they happen in the way described in the Bible, but those things are far secondary to the Word of God and should never be the focus of any ministry. Miracles in the New Testament always happened after the Word was preached, to confirm God’s Word of salvation, never before. Jesus Christ never had miracle crusades, wonder meetings and weekly healing services! A true Christian would heed the countless warnings of Christ concerning the Last days:

“For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. But take heed; see, I have told you all things beforehand.” – Mark 13:22-23

“The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” – 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

Elmarie A says:

And no wonder nothing made sense for she is just a child!!! deceived and lost. oooi Jikes. Done Wednesday at 22:52

Elmarie A says:

cecilia

Ja it has become pretty obvious that Debbie, Tessa and Jo-Ann pretty much believe very strongly in the Name it and claim it theology, very sad indeed.

I HAVE WHAT I THINK AND SAY I HAVE

(SPEAKING THINGS INTO EXISTENCE)

Power has always been attractive and one doesn’t have to be religious to want it. Many are trained to scan the scriptures for God’s promises then speak the word of faith for it to materialize. While the Bible does show those who had faith for a miracle and healed, this is not a general promise where all one has to do is have faith enough to move the mountain and it occurs. Jesus said it was faith only of a mustard seed that is needed. Its not the amount of faith as if it needs to hit the Richter scale to be effective in the natural realm. It is true faith to trust and believe in a promise. Its faith in the God who can move mountains, not the power of our faith.

Well known Pentecostal, David Wilkerson, writes in the late Keith Green’s Last Days Ministries newsletter, that he too has seen many Christians “throughout our nation, whose faith is shipwrecked” because of the “faith” movement. He writes that they began to “believe that getting every desire of the heart depended simply on getting their formulas correct. They were challenged to launch out in God for prosperity, perfect health, and whatever else their minds could conceive. “Conceive then believe. That includes removing from your vocabulary any negative thoughts, words, or confessions.”

Interesting that James says though our tongue is a small member yet it boasts great things. Many word of faith teachers give testimony of all the things they received or made happen by speaking words with faith. Jesus said out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. To want and covet shows what is inside these people’s hearts. I’m not saying everything is spent on themselves, but listen to the attitude and what they are saying, its a dead giveaway.

To word faith teachers faith is a force, a substance that is unseen, but can be tapped into, it is putty in the hands of the user even if they are a believer or not. it works the same for all. Confession brings possession.

Positive confession…

Your confession is your possession

Does God approve of such a thing?

Fred Price says, “When 1 first got saved they didn’t tell me I could do anything. What they told me to do was that whenever I prayed I should always say, ‘The will of the Lord be done.,’ Now, doesn’t that sound humble? It does. Sounds like humility, it’s really stupidity. I mean, you know, really, we insult God. 1 mean, we really do insult our Heavenly Father. We do; we really insult Him without even realizing it. If you have to say, ‘If it be thy will or’ Thy will be done’-if you have to say that, then you’re calling God a fool because he’s the One that fold us to ask…. If God’s gonna give me what He wants me to have, then it doesn’t matter what I ask. I’m only gonna get what God wants me to have. So that’s an insult to God’s intelligence.” (Ever Increasing Faith” program on TBN November 16 ,1990)

Benny Hinn has said “Never, ever, ever go the Lord and say, ‘If it be thy will….’ Don’t allow such faith-destroying words to be spoken from your mouth” (Rise and Be Healed! 1991, p.47-48).

If its not God’s will then whose is it? Yours!

This practice has commonly been practiced in occult groups and various Eastern pagan religions such as the Buddhist sect Nichiren Shoshu Buddhism.

Our faith is not what we speak using incantations from the word, but in the word and the one who spoke the word. Praying in Jesus name is not a warranty to receive everything we say and we can certainly thank Him for that. He doesn’t want spoiled little children, but mature heavenly minded people who look at His Word and are willing to be conformed to His likeness even if it’s uncomfortable. Those that can trust him in His decisions He can entrust to answer. To pray in his name means “in his authority” according to his will, to ask in the understanding of what God wants to accomplish on earth. Romans 8.27: “ And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God’s will.” We need to line up our will with His, then we can be confident he hears us because it is what he wants to accomplish. So you must have the right kind of faith mixed with patience and trust to be “in the faith “ and be a true son of Abraham. The faith Movements faith is not “Biblical faith”, it is defective and flawed, because it is self- focused on our wants, not trusting in God’s decisions. Until they learn this simple biblical lesson they will continue to expand their errors being deceived and deceiving others!

http://www.letusreason.org/Wf8.htm

Elmarie A says:

Amanda

I see pastor Debbie is having an Immortality conference at their church with Worship, Word and Wonders following.

Yip and advertised it on her Facebook page also. yuuuurr kiding me right pastor?

Amanda says:

Esther

Your are welcome to you personal opinion. I agree with you that Kobus is a true New Age prophet. This, however, is a blog for Christians and we hold to the authority of Scripture to determine what is truth and what is a lie. Kobus’ prophecies do not line up with Scripture and therefor Christians reject it. The Bible teaches that you will die and face judgment. And the verdict will be ‘guilty’ for breaking God’s Law. And you will be punished. Jesus Christ died for your sins. Put your faith in Him to save you from the wrath of God and He will. You are helpless to save yourself, no matter how hard you try not to believe it. Repent from your utter rebellion and receive forgiveness of sins through Jesus Christ, our Saviour.

Elmarie A says:

Margaret

Why are you people all so angry at Prophet Kobus

No one is angry I suggest you study your Bible and learn about False Prophets.Matthew 24:24 Do you know what Discernment is? And while you are at it page up and find my comment “What does the Bible say about anger?

Has he done anything to hurt you personally

Kobus van Rensburg is a self appointed false Prophet deceiving many people. Again please read your Bible and learn about Discernment and false prophets please.

Is this site nly for people who want to slam people of God or do you allow anyone with a different opininion from you air their opinion.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion.

I suggest you study your bibles – the bible does not say we all die and face judgement – that is the Torah. The Bible says Rom 8:1 here is therefore, now no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus…………….

Oh…My word so are you part of the Debbie, Jo-Ann and Tessa gang. I sure sounds like it. Do you also believe you are Immortal and won’t die ? Nooo you gotta be kidding me.

What is your opinion about this comment:

JC June 19th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
I have read all the above and can say that what I have suspected about Kobus v Rensburg has been confirmed over and over. HE IS A FALSE “SELF PROCLAIMED” PROPHET.

I have also been financially been ripped-off by followers of Kobus v Rensburg, while proclaiming that they were “Christians” and doing business on “Christian principles”, quoting Bible verses on an ongoing basis (taking it completely out of context) and praying about every decision. Well they thought nothing of it to cheat, tell lies and “steal” from me, so how is that for “Christian principles” and walking with the Bible under the arm?

Your actions shows what is in your heart.

Keep up the good work, and let this website be a beacon of light to those lost in false doctrine and prophets. JC
and also:
JC
June 19th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
JC
I have also received a “healing” during the time in 1996/7 that I was part of a group of people when the “toronto blessing” (curse in disguise) was doing the rounds in SA. I was prayed for and hands were laid on me, I “received” an “anointing” and my back was “healed”.

I could stand a few feet away from someone and when I started to “pray” in “tongues” for the person I would feel my hand grow warm and the person would fall backwards to the ground without being touched. Lots of people were healed during our outreaches, but at what cost? So its not something new that KVR also “heals” people. Question is WHO is behind the “healing”?

Luckily my eyes was opened by what Jacov Prash, Bill Randalls and Dave Hunt said about false prophets and when I repented and turned away from the group and false teachings, I also lost my “healing” and needed surgery to my back (2 x operations 2001, 2002). The Lord will not heal a person and then take the healing away at a later stage! This confirmed that my “healing” was NOT from GOD but from satan, the father of lies and deceit. JC

Amanda says:

Margaret

You are welcome to air your opinion. Your opinion will be compared to the Word of God. If your opinion is in line with Scripture, we’ll get along well.

Unfortunately we have a problem already.

I suggest you study your bibles – the bible does not say we all die and face judgement – that is the Torah.

Only, it is not:

And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment (Heb 9:27)

You say:

All I can see from this man of God is truth.

Read through the proclamations taken from your prophet’s website. If he is claiming to be equal to Jesus Christ and that he is reigning with God on the throne, then he is lying. The Bible simply does not teach this.

There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. (Rom 8:1)

That refers to Christians and not to those who claim to be a christ. Kobus is a New Age prophet who walks in christconsciousness.

Margaret, did you also embrace immortality and are you getting younger like the other christs higher up in the comments thread?

Elmarie A says:

Margaret

She looks about 20 years younger.

Could you supply before and after pictures of this please?

I dont understand it all but it is defintely revival and God moving in a mighty way.

Margaret I want to be honest and say I have seen enough footage of SW and that is not the Spirit of God moving there.

Please read here and take Heed:

3. The false prophet teaches and does things which cannot be weighed up with the Word of God and which are unscriptural.

Jesus himself warned against false prophets.

Matthew 24:4-5, Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no-one deceives you. For many will come in My name claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.” [Christ meaning anointed one.] Matthew 24:11 “..and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.” Matthew 24:24 “For false Christ’s and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect – if that were possible.” 1Timothy 4:1 “The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.”
2 Thessalonians 2:3 “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.”

Sadly the false prophets are not using Jesus, the great prophet, as their example. They are imitating other false prophets. Many actions which are done, for example, slaying in the spirit, to bless bottles of water, or bottles of oil or clothes and to sell it to bless other people, is nothing more than white magic, or charismatic and Roman traditions which have been passed on but which are not biblical. False prophets (operate in the spirit) to remove the source of sickness in the spiritual realm that causes the sickness. The false prophet does not always lay hands on the sick person, he often just stretches his hand and that person is usually slain in the spirit. Is this what the Bible teaches us? [Deborah’s note: A few noted ministers are seen blowing on people to impart the ‘healing’ or ‘anointing’, which is something that is done in witchcraft circles as well.]

The Bible does speak about anointing oil and laying hands on the sick. However to bless the oil is to take it one step further and this is not Biblical. To bless water, clothes, letters, handkerchiefs, is a misunderstanding of the Biblical message and is taking scripture out of context (John 5, Acts 19:12).

Nowhere in the Bible do we get the commandment to bless things. God blesses people, not things. If we remain within His will and if we want to find favour with God, then a blessing will be upon our lives. Therefore, even when we sit at the table to eat, we should thank Jesus for the food, like Jesus thanked his Father, and not bless it.

What we see happening in the ministry of T.B. Joshua and Sylvania, is not revival, but a falling away in the last days. We need to always weigh up everything with the Word of God. Ask yourselves the question, “What does the Word say or how did Jesus and the Apostles go to work? Or what did Jesus and the Apostles do?” The Bible should be our measuring stick and everything should be measured against the Word of God [Hebrews 13:8]. This way we will clearly be able to discern truth from error, what is from God, and what is not from God.

T.B. Joshua is also a vegetarian – why? According to his website, he delivers thousands of witches and magicians every week. Many of them are half man and half fish. He claims that if he were to eat fish, he would not have the power to deliver them. Does this sound like a man of God to you?

The spirit of the false prophet speaks about new revelations. Have you ever heard people saying that God is doing a ‘new thing’ and that we are not to limit God – we are to go with the flow, we are to set aside the Word of God and to open our minds and to enter into altered states of consciousness. This again does not weigh up with the Word of God. [Deborah’s note: The terminology used besides ‘new thing’ is; ‘move into the supernatural’, ‘new wine skin’, ‘new gates’, etc]

What Peter 5:8 tells us is to be self-controlled and alert because the powers of darkness are especially prone to attack our minds. Also it is important to remember that firstly you cannot separate the Word of God from the Spirit of God. That is when mixture can come in and can lead to chaos. When this happens people start growling like lions and make other animal noises in services. They start to deliver in the spiritual realm. On prophet Joshua’s videos it is even seen that they urinate and laugh in the spirit.

Many times the pastor will just stand back and look on because he does not want to interfere with what he thinks the Spirit is doing, or quench the Spirit. However the Spirit of God’s true measuring stick is the Word of God. John 6:63 “The Word that I speak to you is Spirit and is life.”

Secondly, you cannot separate the Spirit of God from a sober mind. When Christians question something they are often suppressed and are told that they do not need to understand everything with their mind. However, to use your mind is not from the flesh and it is less spiritual when you do not test the spirits.

In Mark 7: 18 Jesus asks “Are you then without understanding?”
In Mark 12:33 the Holy Spirit is referred to as being a Spirit of wisdom and understanding. Our understanding must be through the Holy Spirit and must be controlled by Him.

Ephesians 4:18 “Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the lightness through the ignorance that is in them because of the blindness of their hearts.”
1 Timothy 6:5 “Perverse disputes of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness, from such withdraw yourself.”
1 John 5:20 “And we know that the Son of God is come and has given us an understanding that we may know Him that is true and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.”

Thirdly, we are not the ones who restrict God. He restricts us.

Revelation 22:18 “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophesy of this book. If any man should add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.”
2 Peter 1:20, 21 “Knowing this first that no prophesy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophesy came not in old time by the will of man but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.”

It is interesting therefore to note the similarity between the Roman Catholic Church and the Charismatic movement. Both do not accept or use the Bible as their final authority. The Roman Catholic church adds the book of the apocrypha and the charismatic churches add new revelations.I read often of men of God from our past who were true men of the Word and who loved the truth. I would like to challenge the Christians of today to become those men who stick to sound doctrine and who love the truth.

4. The False Prophet works in the name of Jesus

Reference is continually made to Jesus and to the Holy Spirit, however it is often done in a manner which is not respectful (see the video of T.B. Joshua). Sadly, with the continual reference to Jesus and the Holy Sprit, this might deceive those who are naive and who are lacking wisdom and discernment. If one were to look more closely, one would see that it is very seldom that the cross is preached and the message of Jesus Christ crucified. We need to die to self, turn from our wicked ways, repent from our sins, take up our cross and follow Jesus.

So, in other words the centre of the message being preached is not the true Gospel of Jesus Christ but rather focus is put on signs and wonders in the name of Jesus. Mathew 7:22 says, “But many will come to me in that day saying, Lord, Lord, did I not prophesy in your name…”

In Ezekiel 22:28 it says, “Her prophets whitewashed these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, “This is what the sovereign Lord says, when the Lord has not spoken.”

5. They turn their ministry into a business

Money plays a very important role, even though this is usually denied. False prophets usually lack nothing financially. Mathew 7:15, 16 “Beware of the false prophets which come to you in sheep’s clothing – you will know them by their fruit”.

6. False prophets manipulate people with their gifts (especially the gift of healing and a word of knowledge)

Because of their power and faith healing, many false prophets are often authoritarian and overpowering. They do not tolerate any kind of opposition. When Christians test the spirits or question things which they feel they are not comfortable with, they are told that they are not to touch God’s anointed and they are often threatened and they feel accused of committing blasphemy.T.B. Joshua has in an overpowering way encouraged people to return for prophetic training and has been known to break families up. However, in his services, public repentance of sin does play a role. It is usually done in front of a video camera or in the services itself. “Only when you confess your sins before a righteous man can you receive deliverance from sin and strongholds.”

During Sunday services, T.B. Joshua will often expose sin in some of his members through a word of knowledge. He will call people out by their name and mention the exact sins which they are guilty of. It will be done in such fine detail as if he were present when they were committing those sins. Usually this can be seen as a form of manipulation putting fear into the member and succumbing to T.B. Joshua’s fortune-telling spirit.

Deuteronomy 18:22 says, “If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously – do not fear him.”

7. The inspiration of the false prophet comes from many different sources

In Jeremiah 23:13 we see that it can come from evil spirits. In Jeremiah 23: 16 and then 25-28 and verse 32 we see that it can come from your own dreams or thoughts or it can come from your own heart which is part of the flesh. It can also come from imitation. To prophesy is often associated with being super spiritual and therefore many people seek to do this. Jeremiah 23:30 says, “The prophets are stealing my words one from another”.

8. Earmark of their prophesies

8.1 Prophesy according to the Bible is nothing else than preaching the Word of God. All the contents of Jesus’ prophesy was the written Word. In Matthew 22:29 it says, “You go astray because you do not know the Word of God.”In Revelation 19:10 we read, “For this testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophesy.” In the past God would speak to his people through His prophets in many different ways. However, in the last days, God speaks to us through His Son (Hebrew 1:1; 1 Corinthians 14:4,5; John 5:39).

8.2 False prophet’s prophesies do not warn us of sin. In the Bible, the prophets that we see were very firm and harsh regarding sin. They proclaimed it fearlessly. That is the very reason why Jeremiah and many other prophets of the Bible were killed or persecuted. Listen to today’s prophesies. It doesn’t sound very different from somebody reading your horoscope. I know of somebody who prophesied blessing over the owner of a shabeen and a bottle store (instead of a word of warning). Jeremiah 23:22, “But if they had stood in my council they would have proclaimed my words to my people and would have turned them from their evil ways and from their evil deeds.”

8.3 Another earmark proclaimed by the false prophets today is that it is usually always done with a positive attitude and full of love and often the prophesies are full of false hope. An example here is if you think back to the false prophesies that Zimbabwe would not be taken over by communism and that South Africa would not be taken over by the ANC and all the hope that we were given that South Africa and the African continent would be living peacefully and that God’s revival would come over the land. [Deborah’s note: See Cindy Jacob’s false prophecy of hope for Zimbabwe with no mention of Jesus Christ and repentance of sin here]

Ezekiel 13:3 says “Woe unto the foolish prophets”.
Ezekiel 13:10 says “Because they lead my people astray saying “peace” where there is no peace and because when a flimsy wall is built they cover it with whitewash. Therefore, tell those who cover it with whitewash that it is going to fall.”
Jeremiah 5:31 says “The prophets prophesy falsely and my people love it”.
Jeremiah 14:15 says “Therefore, this is what the Lord says about the prophets who are prophesying in My Name. I did not send them though they are saying no sword of famine will touch this land. Those same prophets will perish by sword and famine and the people they are prophesying to will be thrown out into the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword.” (Jeremiah 23:17)

8.4 False prophets twist the Word. In John 14 :12-14 we see that it says that we will be able to do greater things than what Jesus did and this is often quoted. However, this scripture has been taken and quoted out of context. It does not mean that the signs and wonders that we perform will be greater than what Jesus did. How could anyone perform a greater sign and wonder than raising someone from the dead and this is surely then what Jesus did. Nobody can do a greater sign and wonder than that. But that we will be able to reach more people than what Jesus did in His lifetime, yes. At the day of Pentecost, 3000 people came to know the Lord. Jesus only worked in Judea. The apostles were told to evangelise, to take the Word and to preach the gospel to the whole world. Surely this is greater than what Jesus did and surely when someone comes to know the Lord and repents from their wicked ways, what a wonderful miracle that is.

8.5 The danger of being in contact with these false prophets is that you can fall away and you might become the enemy of God. Listen to their foolish words. It is so difficult to find fault with what they are saying because often there is some truth in their prophecies. It sounds as if they are giving God all the glory for the wonderful works which are taking place.

However, always remember it is not 95% of the water in the glass that kills someone, but 5% of the arsenic in the glass that is unseen. The 95% which is often the truth, is what leads the people to follow the false prophets. But the other spirits, the counterfeit spirits, the counterfeit Jesus is what brings spiritual death to man.

The spirit of the false prophet has the belief that doctrine is not that important because it would cause division. Today you can see many people with an ecumenical spirit encouraging Christians to join hands with the Roman Catholic Church, the spirit of the false prophet is freely advocating this. In theological faculties and many churches today this is encouraged. However, many theologians question the inspiration of the Bible, the virgin birth and many other fundamental doctrines. The Bible says that this must happen so that the Word can be fulfilled. The Lord is busy purifying His church – Revelation 3:10. [Deborah’s note: The biggest deception in today’s church and what is being preached is that there is going to be revival second to none in the last days. This is wrong, there is no revival only the ‘great falling away’. So everyone is hoodwinked into thinking that revival is breaking out around the world, when in fact it’s driven by anti-Christ spirits leading people astay thinking it’s of God when it isn’t. Jesus warned you to watch and pray. In the end times families will turn on one another, brother against brother, father against child – I never really understood this, but now I do for I see it happening already – people who have been ‘anointed’ by false spirits masquerading as the Holy Spirit accepting false teachings turn on their family for not wanting to accept this ‘new move’ of God – best friends are now enemies for the one follows the ‘new way’ while the other follows the ‘old way’i.e., the Word of God. It’s the ‘new way’ that turns their backs on and persecutes the ‘old way’ and this persecution is going to, I am sorry to say, turn violent.”]

Deuteronomy 13:1-5 says “If a prophet or one who foretells by dreams appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place and he says, ‘Let us follow other gods, gods you have not known, and let us worship them.’ You must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer.

The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the Lord your God you must follow and Him you must revere. Keep His commands and obey Him, serve Him and hold fast to Him. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death.” This is an IMPORTANT test to see whether we love the TRUTH or will follow after a man.! In the Old Testament false prophets were the enemy of God and they were put to death. (Deut 13).

WARNING:

1.The false prophet is often dynamic and has an amazing stronghold over the people, otherwise he would never be as successful as he is. For this reason many people will be led astray. The Afrikaans prophet, Siener van Rensburg, was a great folk hero in his time, (according to Nostrodamus). For this reason, even magazines or newspapers can place many positive things about false prophets. Sadly, there are Christian radio stations today, and magazines, who positively support prophet T.B. Joshua, Silvania and others. Ignorance to the Word of God, a false unity amongst Christians, will be the price to pay and many will fall because of this and it will be in opposition to the truth.

Thes 2:9-12, “The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refuse to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness”.

The writer of this article has also experienced the power of deception. During one of my visits to a town, a healer came and prayed for me for the gift of healing. From that day onwards I was able to pray for people’s legs and see them grow. Everyone in the town was very excited that I had also received this gift. I genuinely saw wonderful signs and wonders and healings.

Oneday someone warned me through a cassette that this was not from the Lord. Where did it stand in the Bible? Jesus and His disciples did not work in this way. I went on my knees before the Lord. “Lord”, I said, “you understand Afrikaans very well. I don’t want to grieve your Holy Spirit and I don’t want to miss any of the gifts that you have for me, however, your Word tells me to test the spirits. If this gift is not from you, please remove it in the Name of Jesus.” I repeatedly prayed this prayer and from that day onwards I could not perform those healings anymore. Today I know that they were not from God and that it was a counterfeit spirit.

1 Corinthians 4:6 says “Now brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit so that you may learn from us and the meaning of the same. Do not go beyond what is written”. Any new experience that does not weigh up with the Word of God can be considered magic. 2 Cor 5:7 says, “We walk by faith, not by sight.” Mathew 4:4 says, “Man will not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.”

Sheep are careful as to what they eat, but a goat will eat anything. Are our spiritual leaders like the goats who accept and are open to anything that is spiritual as if it will always come from the Lord? Isaiah 56:10,11 compares these leaders to sleeping dogs.

Scripture tells us: “Woe unto the shepherd who leads my sheep astray.” The shepherds will be responsible for misleading the people, taking them to foreign places to follow after ‘anointed leaders’, or when they invite guest speakers or are open to false prophets and let them come and preach in their midst.

John 10:12 says “The hired hand is not the shepherd who owns the sheep, so when he sees the wolf coming he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters them”. The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep. We need to test everything very carefully and not follow after man.

REMEMBER, WHOEVER STANDS FOR NOTHING, WILL FALL FOR ANYTHING!

2. Throughout the years we have been exposed to a heart sore process of meeting with people who have been involved with false prophets. Initially they have been ecstatic about their experiences, and completely blinded. After a while, perhaps a year or more, serious things start to go wrong in their life. This can be in their spiritual life, in their physical life, or in their psychological well-being. It is sometimes only much later on that they realise that what they were involved in was not from God.

Call it whatever you will. Hypnosis, suggestion, soulish experiences (read Whatchman Nee’s book, The Latent Power of the Soul), emotional influence, faith healing, deception. They are often exposed to a mixture of magic and hypnotism. True healing cannot occur under these circumstances.

Often what happens is that people will experience relief in the certain area where they went for prayer but the problem will move to another area. Many people experience healing but something else will then go wrong either in their own body or in that of friends or family. Many people are already starting to complain that since they went to T.B. Joshua, other problems have arisen in their lives or their loved ones. BE WARNED – you are exposing yourself to demonic powers here!!!!!!!!

The writer of this article has also been involved with false prophets who genuinely believed that they were from God, but during deliverance sessions, the demonic side was exposed. Stay away from churches and spiritual leaders that operate in the realm of fortune telling, Similar to words of knowledge), encourage being slain in the Spirit or being drunk in the Spirit. This is often the work of a counterfeit spirit.

3. How will we know that the return of our Lord Jesus Christ is at hand? We will know because of a great falling away and deception which will take place. In Matthew 24:3,4 Jesus warns us, “Be careful that nobody deceives you.” Also read Revelation 16:13 ; 19:20 and 20:10. Jesus even asks whether He will still find faith on the earth when He returns? [Deborah’s note: This is something I have been stressing often in comments and other articles I have written. If the church today is calling on us to come together and unite in building the Kingdom of God, building an ‘army of God’ (Joel’s army) that will conquer the earth for Jesus, but Jesus asks whether He will still find any faith on earth when He returns…then OH BOY, Defcon 1 people. We need to ask, what faith is this Kingdom the church is trying to build, built on? The answer: An anti-Christ foundation not Jesus Christ.]

All these new teachings are paving the way for the Anti-Christ and all the prophecies of taking our cities and countries for Jesus are again making people focus on the wrong things. People are falling away from a love for the Truth. Sadly it will not be the masses who will come to love the Truth, but a handful who will be prepared to be persecuted for making a stand for sound doctrine which is the Truth.

4. There is no biblical ground for the prophetic schools which some churches are propagating. [Deborah’s note: I won’t even mention the School of Signs and Wonders and Todd Bentley’s courses on how to move into the supernatural]. A prophetic school should be no different from a normal Bible school where we are being trained in sound doctrine and in the Word of God. Prophetic schools in the Old Testament were schools where you were trained in the Word. If a prophetic school considers itself to be anything other than this, it is nothing more than charismatic fortune telling.

5. In the past many people were aware of the dangers of communism and Roman traditions. However, within the charismatic movement, there is also a danger. The Church, the true Body of Christ is being polluted (Revelation 12:15) and a stream of satanic deception is [Deborah’s note: it started in the 1700’s already] entering the Church today. False prophets are doing many strange things that are not Biblical at all and they are being worshipped and idolised as great men of God. Fortune telling is being clothed in prophesy and words of knowledge.

The Bible is not the sole source of our truth anymore (sola scriptura). Sadly, Gerald Coates has been known to say that some churches that teach sound doctrine are useless. A well known Christian leader has been known to say that God is not a slave to His Word. There seems to be a new spirituality entering the Church today, particularly found in the charismatic movement. [Deborah’s note: And other denominations are falling prey e.g., Baptists]. This pollution that the modern Christian is exposed to is often discerned as a renewal, however, it is a renewal of the occult and a falling away from the true Lord Jesus Christ and the true Gospel.

Sadly, this renewal is what so many leaders in the Church today are excited about. There are so many different movements that we are currently exposed to. However do they pass the test when weighed up with the Word of God? For example, the Word of Faith movement, Dominion Theology, Prosperity Gospel, Kingdom Now Theology, the restoring of the Prophetic and Apostolic Ministries [Deborah’s note: 5 fold ministry], spiritual warfare and claiming certain areas or towns for God, prayer walking, automatic writing (here people hold the pen in their hand and the Holy Spirit tells them what to write), Theophostics (another form of inner healing), meditation [Deborah’s note: Contemplative prayer], mysticism, etc.

Here so many people don’t realise that it is mystical because they are told that when they feel a warmth [Deborah’s note: ‘fire’, ‘burning sensation’, etc] they will know it is God’s presence. John Wimber used to suggest this. Some of them have sensual sensations or pins and needles in their physical body. [Deborah’s note: Todd Bentley says he gets tingling/pins and needles in his hand that he attribues to his ‘gift of healing’]. This they interpret as experiencing God, visualisation (which is a Hindu form of prayer). There is a new evangelisation being preached without the Cross of Jesus Christ being at the centre.

New manifestations are being sought after, particularly in the charismatic churches e.g.. gold teeth, gold dust, being drunk in the spirit, making animal noises. A new form of spirituality is becoming evident and a new praise and worship is coming to the fore (repetitive music which can lead people into trances). The modern Christian sees this as renewal. However our Lord is the same yesterday, today and forever and when we are born again we are sealed with the Holy Spirit, there is no need to call up the Spirit, invoke Him or worship Him in meetings. This is not Biblical Christianity!

6. Everybody is expecting the return of a Messiah. The Hindus, Moslems, Buddhists and Christians. Sadly, the people are convinced that a transference of spirits can not take place when we visit false prophets such as T.B. Joshua [Deborah’s note: or those listed above]. The spirit of the false prophet will be transferred to us, thus, when the Anti-Christ does make his appearance, masses of Christians will fall for him and will be deceived and misled because they have not been able to discern the false prophets now. [Deborah’s note: Take note of how many ministers say that Jesus will show up in their meetings, even though it never happends they are conditioning you for one day when a ‘jesus’ does show up, but it wont be Jesus Christ it will be the/an anti-Christ. Jesus warned: “Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not” (Matthew 24 v 23-26). Many people are led to believe that when the minister says Jesus is going to show up they mean in ‘spirit’and not ‘physical’ either way it’s unbiblical.”]

7.An unbiblical emphasis on signs and wonders is in disobedience to the 2nd commandment because it is in direct contrast to the way in which we should worship the Lord. We should worship the Lord in Spirit and in Truth, however, when we allow experiences where emotion is involved and our senses are involved, to become prominent and the most important part of our worship, we are in disobedience. When the emphasis is put on signs and wonders with the hope that people will then believe in God, our true faith is put aside. That is why faith is the hope of things not seen that we believe in and Jesus said it is a wicked generation that seeketh after signs and wonders (Mathew 12:39 and Mathew 16:4).

8. Do not support Christian magazines that are mouth pieces to false prophecy. Many false prophesies are often placed in these magazines. These magazines have no discernment and unknowingly become supporters of false prophets and prepare people for the way of the Anti-Christ. Beware of spiritual leaders and churches who are open to any kind of signs and wonders and who do not test the spirits (2 Thes 3:6). Do not let these leaders lay hands upon you (transference of spirits). If leaders do not operate in the gift of discernment now and cannot see the danger in exposing their people to false prophets, how then will they recognise the Anti-Christ.

9.False prophets such as T.B. Joshua and Sylvania are nothing new. The signs and wonders taking place with these people are now being marketed in a new way. The only reference in the Word of God to gold dust can be found in Exodus 32:20. Here Moses destroyed the golden calf the people had made to worship as a false god. Moses ground the gold to powder (dust) and scattered it on the water. He then made the people drink it as punishment for their adulatory. The chapter then goes on to say how 3000 of the people were slain in that one day for their sin. Job 28:12-16, Proverbs 22:1, Proverbs 3:13, all tell us that wisdom and understanding should be more sought after than gold. Proverbs 8:9 says that the fruit of wisdom is better than fine gold. [Deborah’s note: Many people also use the example of ‘female’ angels in Zechariah 5 to back up Todd Bentley and the angel Emma (who by the way became a male angel at a later stage when Todd realised that ‘female angels’ were possibly unbiblical), but they fail to read the entire passage – Zechariah should be read in its entirety; the two women with wings like a stork were transporting wickedness and a stork is an unclean bird. It does not say they are angels.]

10. A scene on TV showed how a Hindu in India following a holy cow. He caught up the urine of the cow into a bowl, drank it and washed himself with it. He picked up the excretions of the cow and covered his whole hair and body with it, but he was so sincere, he believed that he was doing this to honour his god. He believed that he was honouring the right god.

See also Paul’s comment in 1 Corinthians 14:20. Jesus put a lot of emphasis on the Word of God. He often rebuked the Pharisees, saying, “It is written”

[Matthew 12:3&4, 19:4, 21:16, etc.] John 5:19 “Jesus gave them this answer: ‘I tell you the truth, The Son can do nothing by Himself, he can do only what He sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.’ ”

How sad is deception. Who will be next and what will be the next deception to cross our paths?

Will it be THE ANTI-CHRIST?

Will you be their prey?

Margaret please wake up and see the RED LIGHTS !!! /b>

Elmarie A says:

Margaret

You are in my prayers to open your eyes and also for your ears to open and get your family away from that place. We have given you enough Biblical proof to clearly see that Kobus van Rensburg is a self appointed False Prophet and we cannot help you any longer if you won’t listen. Please don’t bother coming back here as WE WILL CONTINUE TO EXPOSE KOBUS VAN RENSBURG’S EVIL FALSE TEACHINGS.

2 Timothy 4:2-6 (Amplified Bible)

1 I CHARGE [you] in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, Who is to judge the living and the dead, and by (in the light of) His coming and His kingdom:

2 Herald and preach the Word! Keep your sense of urgency [stand by, be at hand and ready], whether the opportunity seems to be favorable or unfavorable. [Whether it is convenient or inconvenient, whether it is welcome or unwelcome, you as preacher of the Word are to show people in what way their lives are wrong.] And convince them, rebuking and correcting, warning and urging and encouraging them, being unflagging and inexhaustible in patience and teaching.

3 For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate (endure) sound and wholesome instruction, but, having ears itching [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number, chosen to satisfy their own liking and to foster the errors they hold,

4 And will turn aside from hearing the truth and wander off into myths and man-made fictions.

5 As for you, be calm and cool and steady, accept and suffer unflinchingly every hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fully perform all the duties of your ministry.