The Positive and The Negative of a One World Religion
The Positive and The Negative of a One World Religion
They tell you its all good, they tell you it’s all about peace, love and joy. They tell you the message they are spreading is one of change, transformation. We have to under no uncertain terms create peace on earth – no uncertain terms. We need to save the earth, because we as a human race are going to be living in this world for a long, long time. And we can’t continue fighting amongst each other. The main culprit for all the conflict is religion. And the only way to fix this problem is to merge all the major faiths together. But they had to find the central common denominator of each religion to be able to unite them together. It’s Christ.
They say that the Christians await their Christ, Jews are still awaiting the Messiah, Hindus are anticipating the coming of Krishna, Muslims are expecting the Imam Mahdi and Buddhists await the Fifth (Maitreya) Buddha. They say all these ‘Christ’s’ are actually one and the same. Therefore ALL religions lead to the same God – So what are we fighting about?
Roman Catholicism and a One World Religion
Besides the multiple horrendus problems with the above so called brilliant concept there is one BIG factor that needs to be taken into consideration. The Christians they speak of here are Roman Catholics who are not genuine Christians. Their Christ is the Eucharist Christ who is permanently nailed to a cross, never coming off and being sacrificed repeatedly, the mother is Mary or Isis (Goddess of Fertility) and their God is Mithra the Sun God. The born again Christians await Jesus Christ the Son of God – The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. So technically yes, the Roman Catholics do await their Christ which is the same Christ as all other religions out there – EXCEPT truly born again Christians….
The genuine Christian’s Saviour is Jesus Christ the Son of God, King of Kings as written in the Bible and IS NOT the same Christ we are called to accept by the ‘new’ one world religion that is taking over this earth (or should I say has already overtaken the earth). We are told we are in a New Age, a New Dawn, everything is Emerging and merging. We are told that we can turn this world around. If we come together as one global community we can make this change. There will be peace, love and joy. We need to understand that we are all connected. We are brothers and sisters. If one is suffering then we are all suffering. If Africa is suffering then it’s a ‘measuring stick’ that the rest of the world is not in good shape.
Sharing (or service to humanity) IS all a One World Religion needs
We need to share. But it’s not about sharing the truth, the Gospel of Jesus Christ as per what is written in the Word of God. It’s not about saving souls for Jesus Christ anymore; it’s now ALL about sharing and giving to your brother and your sister. We need to show love and compassion by doing good works; feeding the poor, giving blankets to all who are cold, provide housing to everyone that they may have a roof over their heads, dig wells to provide water and stop emitting carbon so as to reverse climate change. We have to do this, because this is our world, our ‘mother’ earth.
But we can’t do this on our own, we need help. Help from The Christ himself. We do this through contemplative spirituality. The message of salvation where you need to repent of your own individual sin and accept Jesus Christ the Son of God by believing that He died for us, that our souls will be saved thereby receiving eternal life no longer applies. There is also no such thing as sin anymore, and preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ which wholly includes the message of repentance of sin is now completely taboo.
This Christ comes bearing gifts for all; knowledge, health, love, peace, joy, food, water, education, a message of hope for mankind. A message that we can be higher than what we think we are. We can achieve so much more than we think. This message however is now where to be found in the Bible, unless of course you take the Word of God and twist what it says for your own ideologies.
Instead the new gospel is a one pager on how to connect with the Christ inside you. It will tell you how to go about choosing a place where you feel content and a place where you will achieve silence. The choosing of a mantra or sound etc., that you will repeat over and over again which will allow you to enter into a trace, the posture you will sit in so as to allow maximum energy flow between the charkas, a technique on how to breath efficiently and how to clear your mind of all thoughts, especially negative ones – you will never be able to hear God if you are thinking, walk a labyrinth, stop thinking!
This will help you in your quest to join a One World Religion:
- Transcend the world (transcend human/physical boundaries and move to a higher spiritual level)
- Experience more happiness in your life
- Recognize the divinity within all people (you will be able to recognize The Christ in other people – They say you will be able to recognise ‘Jesus’ in other people)
- Remember your divine nature (meditation will help you remember that you are not really human but have a divine nature, god-like)
- Use the business of the world to awaken (you will use earthly things and ideas to help awaken humanity to their destiny of being gods and having the power to create a Kingdom of God on earth)
- Develop more consistency with your spiritual practices (once you connect with your inner god-self (the god in you) you will find yourself reaching higher levels of spirituality much easier with less effort.)
- See the world through God’s eyes (you will see the world through ‘Gods’ eyes because you youself are a god)
- Understand the connection between being and creation (You will understand that the earth, animals, plants and humans are all connected and if one of them is suffering then mankind as a whole is suffering)
- Fulfill your life’s purpose (your life’s purpose is to help create the Kingdom of God on earth and rule as a god, you can be a king in your kingdom)
- Experience your divine innocence (being a god means that there is no such thing as sin, for a god can’t sin. You are therefore innocent and free)
- Recognize your holiness (you are holy because you are a god)
- Discover your divine gifts (gods always come with divine gifts; healing, compassion, love, etc.,)
- Uncover your heart’s desire (you will find that your heart’s desire will be entirely focused on peace and building the Kingdom of God on earth)
- See the presence of God in all things (God is all, and all is in God – pantheism, panentheism)
- Experience Oneness (you are a god, you are one with the universe – cosmic Elohim. Note this ‘Elohim’ is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob)
- Live heaven on earth (instead of being evacuated from earth as the Word of God speaks about constantly, you no longer need to believe this because earth will become your domain. You will rule the earth as a god.)
- Strengthen your creativity (become very creative at finding clever ways to network (using the businesses of the world) so as to help spread the message and teach employers and their staff the techniques of finding inner peace)
- Let go of unnecessary rules on your spiritual path (let go the Word of God, throw it away for the Bible is completely unnecessary. But you will take on the Golden Rule: Positive connotation – do to others what you would like to be done to you, Negative connotation – do not do to others what you would not like to be done to you)
- Develop more consistently with your meditation practice (again, the more you practice the more you get closer to hearing the voice of God. So the more you practice the more you will transform and reach higher levels of enlightenment, like climbing a ladder.)
- Experience Enlightenment [1] (all of the above, you progress in levels, until you reach the ultimate enlightenment, ultimate illumination)
Instead of preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ we are to now to make friends with everyone and drink coffee until we are bouncing off the walls. We need to build relationships because that’s what Christ did; well that’s what the One World Religion-ers tell us. They tell us Jesus went around building relationships. He debated, He never rebuked anyone. He never once asked anyone to repent of their sin. He never once got angry and turned over the tables in the temple. In fact there was so much love going around that they were not even sure he was crucified and if he was crucified is was not anything as bad as the Bible makes it out to be. Some Emergent (New Age teachers) even say that Jesus’ body was eaten by dogs. Some say that Jesus was an illegitimate child, Mary was a whore and was raped by Roman soldiers – as Jesus grew up he could not explain the fact that he did not have a father so made up a story that his father was God.
The blasphemy, the absolute disgusting, evil words that spews out of people’s mouths.
They mock and insult Jesus Christ, our King of All Kings, our Lord and Saviour, the God who will bring JUDGEMENT on mankind for their wickedness. The people of this world will gather at Armageddon in an attempt to try show God what they are supposedly made of, but in the process are wiped out so quickly they won’t even know what hit them.
The One World Religion followers just can’t understand why we (genuine Christians) don’t want to attend their gatherings and bowling evenings. When we don’t accept the invitations we are told we are being negative, and negativity is just not a good thing. Negativity breeds hostility.
So my question is: What do you call HOSTILITY towards the One and Only Living God who sent His ONLY begotten Son to save the world?
It’s laughable!
A One World Religion and it’s positives and negatives
It’s only positive when the One World Religion followers say it’s positive. Otherwise it’s 100% negative. Insulting Jesus Christ is considered positive.
Positivity as per the New Age dictionary = love all who follow a message other than the Word of God. Reject Biblical teaching thereby denying Jesus Christ. Negativity as per the New Age dictionary = those who cause division instead of unity and follow the Word of God and refuse to deny Jesus Christ
James 4:4
4 You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
Resources:
[1] http://www.thevoiceforlove.com
Eugene
Nope, you did not suggest that I do. But I will never agree with what they have to say. I was just re-enforcing that they teach another message that is completely different to the bible. I know what they are teaching; I was in the occult for 17 years. I speak from years of experience. Now I am saved by Jesus Christ the Son of God, born again of God’s Holy Spirit and I now warn you, as I preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to all who want to listen.
You don’t know what you are getting yourself into, it sounds good, it sounds new, it sounds exciting, it sounds mystical, you might even feel a change in your life – all these things do not make what you are following of God.
I pray you start listening to the Holy Spirit warnings.
Right, I have an article to finish writing asap.
Deborah,
I forgive you. You are right that it is tough to always respond in love when it is perceived you are being attacked but there is not really any other options for us Christians, are there? The most important commandment… (Matt 22:37-40) and that includes our enemies (Matt 5:43-45). I would go so far as to say that it is humanly impossible to always respond in love apart from being transformed by the renewing of our minds (Rom 12:2). Without the powerful working of the Holy Spirit within us it will be impossible to love as Jesus commanded us to love and may I add that this transformation is a process, so that none of us are perfect in this yet.
One thing that I do that helps me to respond in love is that I copy my comment to Word where I spell and grammar check it. There I read and think through it again. Often I feel the Holy Spirit pointing out something that was not said in love. When I didn’t do this I often had to go back and ask forgiveness for harsh, unloving words.
I don’t know how to explain myself any better but I’ll try. Love and agreement has very little to do with each other. We are commanded to love as God loves, serve as God serves (Phil 2). This scripture comes to mind:
It is love that bridges the gap that disagreement/hurt/sin brings between us. If we start with disagreement the possibility of real conversation is very little but when we have the foundation of love in our relationships conversation can happen which leads to understanding of each other. That might not necessarily lead to agreement and I would put to you that need not be the aim but that the aim is love itself. The commandment is not agreement in all things but love. This is one reason I think being committed to a congregation or at least a group of believers over a long period of time is important for it is here where we learn to love in spite of disagreement, hurt and sin. Of course this Christian fellowship (ekklesia) is not possible apart from the working of the Holy Spirit.
A lot of conversations on this site start off with disagreement and that is not always your fault. It is just the nature of this type of conversations… I don’t have any suggestions how to change that at the moment apart from asking God to fill your heart with love for the ones most difficult to love.
I hear concern for me in that. Thank you. My journey with God has been practically my whole life and I can quite confidently say that I know when the Holy Spirit is warning me. I also have a number of believers around me who keep me in check and will quickly tell me when I go off the track. I will however appreciate it if you pray for me in this regard as well and I will do the same for you.
Deborah, I don’t think I have argued with you about Nic’s post, have I? I specifically stayed out of that one because of my lack of understanding of it. I have in the mean time started talking to him about it. Unfortunately I don’t feel that this blog is a safe place to relay what we’ve been talking about but I will say this: That post is not a reflection of Nic’s beliefs but rather a point of exploration on his journey.
The perception that it is hateful would perhaps not be if there was less name calling – from both sides I might add. Truth in love, truth in love, truth in love. [url deleted by DTW]
As for speaking truth – that also means being truthful about what someone else says. This can prove to be difficult because it is easy to give our own interpretation of what was said but much more difficult to say what they said in our own words and still be truthful. We all come to text with our own baggage that influences how we perceive what is being said and that makes conversation with the core value of love so much more important. (On a side note: This is true for reading and interpreting the Bible as well and I believe that outside a relationship with Jesus Christ and with His body (other believers) it is impossible to interpret the Scriptures correctly.)
I agree a lot of people will get some big surprises but perhaps not for the same reason as you say here. One of the Scriptures that remind me of this is Matthew 25 where both the sheep and goats confessed the King as Lord but the works they did not correspond to their confession.
Though my reference to laughing at ourselves was more aimed at how little we do understand of an infinite God and his infinite grace towards us and how we so easily judge each other thinking that we have the monopoly on knowledge of God. Call it a confession towards humility if you will.
I was referring to 1 John 4:18. I really do love the Bible and see it as authoritive in testifying of the Truth – Jesus Christ. (In case you wondered, that was a reference to John 14:6)
May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit.
You did it! Wow, I’m impressed.
Thank you very much.
Eugene said: How my comment ended up at #14 only WordPress knows. WordPress seems to have a mind of its own…
[EDITED BY DTW: I moved your comment that went MIA. I tried to use your name, email, website, but it seems it did not pick up your avatar..sorry about that.]
Deborah
Did I suggest that you should follow any of their teachings? I do not understand this comment of yours.
No problem. 🙂
Pay close attention to what Eugene is teaching you, DTW. He is bound by the LAW of LOVE and will speak accordingly. He probably resonates with Andrew’s comment on emerging africa:
Andrew has it completely backwards. John Piper called them air flowers, making the fruit the root. To them, as long as you produce ‘fruit’, in other words, as long as your are nice to all, God’s kingdom is established on earth and that is all that matters. Dogma causes division and we cannot have that. Eugene says he accepts us as Christians as we are saved by Jesus Christ. Fine. But does Jesus Christ save the good Muslim or good atheist, who perform acts of compassion also? If they keep the LAW of LOVE as seen through the emergent eyes, then surely God is pleased with them?
Andrew is angered by intolerance. I wonder what his definition of intolerance is? Could that include saying that a good Muslim, Jew and atheist are lost, no matter what acts of compassion they may perform, and that God’s wrath abides on them? I sure hope he does not think that he is actually succeeding in pulling off imitating Jesus Christ!
Deborah
I understand you are busy now but will you reply to my comment in #40 when you have time please? I touched on quite a number of things there.
Grace and peace to you.
Eugene
Amanda
Yeah. Everything is backwards…
Eugene
>> Can I state it any clearer than I already have that salvation is by faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ alone?
Then how can you agree with Nic’s article? You can’t sever two masters.
Deborah,
Is it even remotely possible that you have misunderstood and misinterpreted Nic’s article? I’m only asking if this is possible. Or are you claiming infallibility?
Also, Eugene is not serving Nic, even if he agrees with Nic’s post. He is not “serving” Nic anymore than someone is serving you by agreeing with your posts.
Is one only saved if they think correctly and agree with only the “right” people?
Where is Jesus in any of that?
>> Is it even remotely possible that you have misunderstood and misinterpreted Nic’s article? I’m only asking if this is possible. Or are you claiming infallibility?
Word of God is infallible and Nic’s words are occult and contradict the Word of God.
>> Also, Eugene is not serving Nic, even if he agrees with Nic’s post. He is not “serving” Nic anymore than someone is serving you by agreeing with your posts.
Regarding Eugene. I was not speaking about Eugene serving two masters. GOOD GRIEF. The Bible says you either LOVE the truth the INFALLIBLE Word of God or your HATE it. YOU EITHER LOVE GOD and His INFALLIBLE WORD and DON’T TWIST IT or YOU CHOOSE SATAN.
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sorry, just saw this additional comment calling me a liar. I am sending those two emails to you now.
I await your apology.
Consider that your last comment Eugene. Sorry. Go and continue your conversation on Nic, Chad or whoever else’s blog you choose
Chad mentioned that he has made a copy of all his comments to me on another blog – should keep ya’all busy for a longgggggg time. Just remember to always credit me. Please. I really do insist.
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Thanks for the two emails:
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“Here is one of the two emails I got that confirmed that I wanted to receive notifications. It is on the 25th of June, the first day I commented on your blog, and it is on the “About This blog” post. My comment never showed, but you deleted it. I look forward to your apology for calling me a liar that I did not receive such notification”
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“And here is the second email, showing that i left a comment on your post, “God does not exist, man does” on 6/25/09. Where is that comment? You deleted it, then lied about it and then tried to paint me as the liar just so that you could look good on your site to others and make me an enemy.
I feel sorry for you, Deborah. Really”
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Um….subscribing to receive commenter’s emails means you will only receive MY comments on the page your specified, in this case the About my Blog page and God does not exist, man does. You can subscribe to receive MY comments only. You will NOT get confirmation that you made comments and you will not receive emails with comments that anyone else has made on the page your specified either. Also you can sign up to receive comments made by me without having to post a comment.
So, 1) Your emails are ONLY confirmations that you signed up to receive notifications. 2) You will only receive my comments 3) You can sign up without commenting 4) hmmmmm….
So…
So….yeahh….hmm….I tell you what – make sure you copy and paste all this to your blog or Nic’s or wherever so you can carry on discussing how I made all this stuff up and how I deleted two comments you never made.
[Edited] This entire rediculous conversation started here, where Chad insisted I deleted two of his posts: 2009/06/26 at 5:21pm comment
I reiterate: I feel sorry for you, DTW.
Those emails were sent to me after I left a comment and after leaving my comment I was asked if I would like to receive follow-up notifications on my comment. I checked “yes” and those emails were sent.
You know what, Deborah? Had you never deleted any of my comments or anyone else’s than people might actually believe you when you say you never deleted 2 of my comments at the beginning. Who is more believable? The one who continues to delete every other comment I make and is trying to say she never deleted me or the one pointing out the obvious?
LOL
[Edited] Regarding supposed 2 deleted comments: 2009/07/02 at 3:49pm
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As that famous quote goes by an anonymous person (lol): “You’ve been served!”
Besides, I said if I ever did delete someone’s comment I will know and make a comment to say so and ask the person to repost – if they come back to read the page again that is.
Second, when I delete your comments I say ‘DELETED’ or similar to show that you did comment but I deleted it.
And I did this first with Iggy and I too moderated the comment so show that he commented and then I deleted it.
It’s almost Friday night, I think you all need to get together for coffee and go back to the drawing board on how to get those ‘discernment’ people.
Do you need a serviette?
Amanda,
Is there anything specific in my comment #27 you want to talk about or did you make this broad brush comment as a distraction from the conversation between Deborah and I?
I get the idea you will use anything I say to prove that I am not part of the family of God. Can I state it any clearer than I already have that salvation is by faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ alone?
Deborah, what is backwards about what I said?
Grace and peace to you.
*whipsers* I think you should just keep quiet now Chad…the more you say the deeper you dig your hole.
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Deborah,
Where have I stated that I agree with Nic’s article? I stated that I don’t completely understand it and that I will talk to him about it. That is not agreement. Furthermore you have made up your mind about what that article means and now you want me to agree/disagree with what you think it means and by that you will decide if I am saved or not. That is mind boggling to me.
This is what I said:
Acceptance of the person is not the same as acceptance of that person’s ideas.
May grace abound in your life.
At #15???
WordPress is more confusing than Pieter de Villiers at a press conference!
I leave you with a blessing…
May the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, the eyes of your understanding being enlightened, that you may know what is the hope of His calling, and what is the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, and what is the surpassing greatness of His power toward us, the ones believing according to the working of His mighty strength which He worked in Christ in raising Him from the dead, and He seated Him at His right hand in the heavenlies, far above all principality and authority and power and dominion, and every name being named, not only in this world, but also in the coming age. (Eph 1:17-21)
Hi everyone,
Strange how people become so personal when being confronted with the truth.
No one’s perfect, yet you can’t really find anything wrong with the author’s doctrine, then you become personal and then you want to pray for her.
It is not the author who made up the doctrine, she is simply quoting scripture and pointing out the false teachings and / or false teachers…
The Bible is very clear in stating that we are to do just that.
Why is it that you can’t play with numbers (although some people think they can)? Yet you would want to play with words, if you can’t accept what is written…
J O
Sorry, I cannot find your comment at 27? DTW is free to delete my unwelcome interruptions.
Emergents are about including everybody. We are talking about true doctrine. You try to convince us that LOVE is the important thing.You said about my comment to DTW:
“that I sometimes feel I’m being false” Agreed.
“I get a comment like this” Yes, we are not following your agenda. To you the LAW of LOVE is what counts. As for divisive doctrine, we are supposed to converse and discuss our different opinions and end up singing Kumbaya together anyway. No. The fundamentals of the faith are not up for deciding what we agree about or not, or for some compromise. That is emergent speak and we are not emergent. The Bible tells us what is true and what is false. You will be disappointed every time you try and get fundamentalists to act emergent. You talk about LOVE, we are talking about true and false doctrine. Your LOVE will never overrule that, except in emergent think.
Chad said:
I agree fully. Emergents have a different gospel. Right there is a huge problem, Eugene. One is true and one false. The one saves lost souls from going to hell. The other cannot. Peace! Peace! and LOVE cannot overcome that.
One last time. We are not emergent. We do not follow your agenda and LAW and we don’t do coffee. Why does this still surprise you?
Amanda
It’s all that coffee they drink, it takes a while for it to sink it (pardon the pun).
Got to re-iterate Chad’s’ comment here cos, WOW, finally after so much arguing he realises and AGREES that Emergent’s speak a VERY DIFFERENT gospel to Bible believing born again Christians. And THANKFULLY SO that they have come to this conclusion. It will definitely help those ‘stuck in the middle’ to make a decision as to what side they want to choose.
So as Amanda said: The one saves lost souls from going to hell (True Gospel of Jesus Christ). The other cannot (Emergent gospel) Peace! Peace! and LOVE cannot overcome that.
Now all we need is another Emergent to come in and disagree that Chad (Methodist Pastor) can’t speak on their behalf…lol.