Joyce Meyer is a Little God With a Big Christ Consciousness

Joyce Meyer little God with Big Christ consciousness

Joyce Meyer is a Little God With a Big Christ Consciousness

Joyce Meyer is admired by so many people, especially women, it’s actually quite ridiculous.  I think it’s mainly because she speaks like a psychologist. So watching her on TV or reading her books is like lying on that big leather sofa in a psychologists office and you get to speak you heart out all they while they tell you how to manage your life.  I also think that many women wish they could be like her.

Now lets get down to the nitty gritty.  Have you noticed how quickly Joyce Meyer speaks.  She is a bullet train.  You can’t keep up with what she is actually saying!  She mis-quotes scripture just as fast.  This is such a brilliant tactic.  She does not give you any time to take in what she is ACTUALLY saying.  Of course I can’t apply this to her books, because everyone reads at a different pace.  But she still mis-quotes scripture, and she knows no one will actually check to see if what she is quoting really lines up to the truth.  Sneaky Sneaky.

Why do false teachers always come up with such clever means of deceiving people.  Because Satan is actually very clever and knows exactly how to stop you from thinking for yourself and will always prevent you from going to the Bible to see if what he says is actually so.  Which of course it never ever will be true, for he is the father of lies.

So Joyce Meyer is a Word of Faith / Latter Rain and Emerging Church preacher (Yes Emerging, it’s a shock I know) .  She constantly preaches positive confessions.  If you speak good things into your life, then good things will happen.  If you speak positive things, then positive things will happen.  This is exactly the same as the Law of Attraction or Law of Return which IS Occult teaching.

Wiccan Rede

It works on the same principle as witchcraft’s The Wiccan Rede – “If no harm is done, do as you will”.  Or the Emergents;  The Golden Rule  – “Do unto others as you would have them do to you”.  So whatever energy a person puts out into the world, be it positive or negative, it will be returned to that person three times. But this also depends on what you believe and is not necessarily threefold. It could be more, like a hundredfold in Word of Faith teaching lol.  So what is the Eastern philosophical term for all this?  The Law of Karma!

Positive Confession is actually a spell.  You are casting a spell by ‘confessing’ what you want.  All you don’t have is a wand, but you do have a Joyce Meyer spell book.  All Joyce Meyer’s is short of is a hat and a broom.

Word of Faith doctrine

Years ago Word of Faith entered the public scene with massive revivals through the likes of William Branham et al.  The ‘religion’ of Word of Faith is a culmination of Metaphysical cult ideas mixed with Orthodox Christian teaching.   But no one knew this back then, everyone raised their hands and said, ‘Hallelujah!’  Church became exciting, the spirit was moving and people were being ‘saved’ left right and centre.  The Baptists were old school, the Methodists, well no one was really sure what they believed, but the Charismatics…well, they were genuine men and women of God.

Word of Faith teaching ±70 years ago contained 90% genuine Christian teaching.  ±30 years ago it contained 80% genuine Christian teaching.  Now they are 99% false teaching.  It’s so bad that they now openly proclaim the Little God teaching i.e.,  All is God and God is in All (Pantheism/Panentheism).  They have taken scripture in the bible and twisted it completely, with no shame what-so-ever!

So when the bible tells us that when you are genuinely saved, the Holy Spirit comes to abide in you and you are then continuously filled with the Holy Spirit as you grow in your faith and become like Christ.  They on the other hand are actually referring to the fact that you actually become a Christ.  That you can do what Jesus did, that you can now have the SAME authority as Jesus did by speaking your god faith out loud!  That as you grow in knowledge you move up the Transcendental ladder and will one day be on the same level as Jesus Christ.  Of course they did not preach this message outright ±20 years ago, and would deny that this is what they actually meant (some of them not even sure what they meant).  NOW they openly say it, but still have the audacity to deny that this is what they really mean.  How stupid do they think we are?  Well it seems most meet their expectations.

Ever wondered why Word of Faith teachers always have such lavish stage settings of gold chairs, gold ornaments and ridiculous over the top bling.  Are they trying to recreate heaven?  Are they little gods in their heaven on earth?  Just a thought.

So here is Joyce Meyer teaching the Little God teaching.  Notice how she first says she does not agree with the teaching and then goes on to agree with the teaching and then quotes scripture (very fast of course) to back-up the teaching.  They have to make sure you will never keep up.

Why do we not notice these oh so obvious things?  Or do we notice these things and instead of being utterly disgusted we push them aside and make like we did not hear it? All the while it’s been embedded in our subconscious.  Like subliminal messages of, “it might come as a shock, but you know you like it”.

A little god

The god with a little g that we are supposed to be as per Joyce Meyer is The Christ consciousness that the Occult teach we all have inside of us.  And Word of Faith / Latter Rain teach the exact same thing. They just speak the message differently, using different examples and different terminology.  But it’s the exact same New Age idea.   She speaks about Jesus Christ, but she is NOT speaking about the real Jesus Christ of the Bible but the Occult Christ that embodies all religions and allows us to think we are gods (big or small g it does not matter).  For all is God and God is in All.

New Age teaching is not new!

It’s ancient satanic knowledge that has been purposely made known, let out of the proverbial Pandora’s box in order to ensnare the entire world at just at the right time in history – the end times.  What once was a secret is no more.  Now you can get The Secret first hand at your local Christian book store, step by step instructions on how to ascend to god level.

I have transcribed the Joyce Meyer video, cos reading at ones own pace will hopefully help you take in what she is really saying.

Joyce Meyer teaches little god teaching:

“He and I were listening to a set of tapes by one man, he explained it like this….and I think this kinda gets the point across.  [note: wonder why she does not mention Creflo Dollars name as he proposed the little God theory quite a while back]

He said:  “you know, why do people have such a fit about God calling His creation His creation? His man, not his whole creation but His man, little gods? If He is God what’s He gonna call them?  But the god-kind! I mean if you as a human being have a baby you call it a humankind, if, if cattle have another cattle, they call it cattle kind.  So I mean, what’s God supposed to call us? Does not the bible say we are created in His image?” (Amen from the audience).

Now you understand I’m not saying you are God with a capital G.  That is not the issue here!  So don’t go trying to stone me or yell blasphemy at me.  The bible says, right here in John 10:34…let’s read this again, well lets just start again from verse 32. (Notice how she reads the Bible at Mach 1 speed)

“Jesus said to them, My Father has enabled Me to do many good deeds. [I have shown many acts of mercy in your presence.] For which of these do you mean to stone Me? The Jews replied, We are not going to stone You for a good act, but for blasphemy, because You, a mere Man, make Yourself [out to be] God. Jesus answered, Is it not written in your Law, I said, You are gods?”  (Joyce adds by saying, “little g” to the end of the verse.  Note:  This verse is taken from the Amplified bible)

So men are called gods by the law, men to whom gods message came and the scripture can not be set aside, cancelled or broken, or annulled.  Now if this is true, (Joyce is now referring to Jesus speaking) “You say of the the One whom the Father consecrated, dedicated, set apart for Himself, and sent into the world, you are blaspheming because I said I am the Son of God!  See when He began to say, “I’m the Son of God”, then they began to yell blasphemy.

Well I want you all to know that you are sons and daughters of All Mighty God. (Amen from audience). He has birthed us, we are born again, new creatures in Christ Jesus. We need to understand who we are, and what it is we’re supposed to be doing. And if we can get that revelation refreshed in us, but stay in some realm of balance, then I believe that God can use us in this last hour for many mighty acts and in the process we can give Him all the glory.

Oh I tell you I feel good about this. Don’t you feel good about it? (Amen from the audience).

I wish you had an amplified bible in front you but if you don’t then you may just have to listen here. If we study Psalm 82:

“GOD STANDS in the assembly [of the representatives] of God”  (Joyce then interrupts and says, “That’s us you know, see I’m a representative of God.  The bible says that God stands in the midst of those representatives. She then carries on with the verse). “…in the midst of the magistrates or judges He gives judgement [as] among the gods.” (She ends verse saying “little ‘g” then continues).  “…How long will you [magistrates or judges] judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? [pause, and calmly think of that]!” Verse[sic] 3,  (Joyce adds: He might as well just add here, “this is why I’ve given you power”) “…that you can do justice to the weak (poor) and fatherless; maintain the rights of the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy; rescue them out of the hand of the wicked”.

God has given us power and authority in these last days, that we might help hurting people. Let me ask you a question;  “When He empowered the twelve and He empowered the seventy what did He tell them?  Go preach the gospel, cast out devils, heal the sick? Every where you go help, hurting people!  We’ve got to understand that when power is delegated to us it is to help hurting people! (Amen from audience). It’s not for us to go and necessarily try to help ourselves all the time. But to help hurting people! And certainly you want to take authority over the enemy when he is coming against you. But the main thing is you want to help hurting people.

“Verse 5, …[The magistrates and judges] know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in the darkness [of complacent satisfaction];  (Joyce adds: “Now this is interesting…”) …all the foundations of the earth [the fundamental principles upon which rests the administration of justice] are shaking.”

I was listening to a man teach this week and he said that because people are not taking their proper places. Because God’s people are not taking their proper places everything on the earth is out of balance. All the foundations of the earth is supposed to be built upon are shaking in this hour. Cos God’s people are not taking their proper places! We’ve let the devil have what belongs to us! (Audience responds with approval).

Verse 6;  “I said, You are gods [since you judge on My behalf, as My representatives]; indeed, all of you are children of the Most High.”

It is important that we know who we are and that we walk with that power consciousness.”

And if that does not convince you that the Christ she speaks of is NOT the Jesus Christ of the Bible but the New Age Christ.  Then have a look at this:

[DTW emphasis and notes in green below]

Are you a Joyce Meyer Ministries fan?

If you enjoy Joyce Meyer’s teachings and want to hear God’s loving Voice within you in a very clear and recognisable way, you’re in the right place!

Joyce Meyer is a true blessing to millions of people all over the world who desire to deepen their relationship and communication with God. As a leading Christian evangelical teacher, Joyce Meyers clearly demonstrates her deep and abiding relationship with Jesus Christ through the way she lives, as well as through her many inspiring and life changing books. Joyce Meyer is a testament that God speaks to each of us, regardless of our personal backgrounds or challenges in life.

But there is something important that you may not realise.

God speaks to each of us exactly where we are.

What does that mean?

It means that God speaks to us exactly where we are on our path.

Let me give you an example.

Imagine a row of seven people sitting in front of you: a 6-year-old child, a physicist, a Catholic priest, a rebellious teenager, a mother of 10 children, a Buddhist monk, and a police officer. Now imagine that each one of these people asks God the same exact question. It could be about anything…. What would be in the highest good for me to say or do as I walk past this beggar on the street? What is my true purpose in life? What message would you have me impart to this group of elementary school students on career day? How can I best serve the world? Is it my highest good to invest in the stock market? What should I say or do when someone yells at me or threatens me?

Regardless of the question, do you know what each person is going to hear when they ask God the same question as everyone else?

They’re going to hear something totally unique to them. The 6-year-old child will not receive the same answer as the rebellious teenager, the Catholic priest, or the police officer. The mother of 10 will hear something different than the physicist or Buddhist monk. Each person has their own background, education, and belief system. Each one is learning their own unique lessons in life. Therefore, God will speak to each person exactly where they are on their path. One person may be learning about kindness or compassion, while another person may be learning about forgiveness, abundance, or self-empowerment. What one person needs to hear to re-connect with God [Note: The god of all beliefs/religions, all paths lead to the same god] and their True Self  [Note: Christ consciousness] is most likely different than what another person needs to hear.

In addition, we are constantly evolving and changing in our understanding and awareness. The lessons we were learning 10 years ago are most likely different from the lessons we are learning today. [Note: God says His Word is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow].  In fact, who we are in this moment is different than who we were three months ago, three weeks ago, and even three days ago. Each time we open up to a deeper understanding and experience of Love and Peace in our lives, the fabric of our mind changes. We could probably ask God the same question every year for the rest of our lives and receive a different answer every time we asked because what we are learning and assimilating in each moment is different. [Note:  Emergent teaching that the bible can be interpreted any which way you want, depending on who you are, where you live and what mood you are in]. What we need to hear right now to restore ourselves to God is unique to this moment.

What does this have to do with Joyce Meyer?

Joyce Meyer is a beautiful soul and a wonderful teacher. She shares God’s Voice with millions of people all over the world in exactly the right way for them. But what if it were possible for you to hear God’s Voice just as clearly and intimately as she does?

What if you could experience God’s unconditional love for you EXACTLY AS YOU ARE?

What if you could learn to love yourself unconditionally, let go of ALL self judgement, fear, and guilt, and experience the freedom and peace of knowing that you remain exactly as God created you to be?  [Note: no such thing as sin anymore].  What if you could learn how to hear God’s Voice within you in a very clear and recognisable way so that you can receive the comfort, guidance, and healing that you seek in your life?

If your answer is YES, now is the time to take the next step and receive the unconditional love and guidance that God has to give you.

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  • Transcend the world
  • Experience more happiness in your life
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  • Remember your divine nature
  • Use the business of the world to awaken
  • Develop more consistency with your spiritual practises
  • See the world through God’s eyes
  • Understand the connection between being and creation
  • Fulfil your life’s purpose
  • Experience your divine innocence
  • Recognise your holiness
  • Discover your divine gifts
  • Uncover your heart’s desire
  • See the presence of God in all things
  • Experience Oneness
  • Live heaven on earth
  • Strengthen your creativity
  • Let go of unnecessary rules on your spiritual path
  • Develop more consistently with your meditation practise, and
  • Experience Enlightenment 
THEN….

Close your eyes as you listen to these guided meditations and allow the words of the Holy Spirit to gently guide your awareness ever deeper into the experience of your Divine Self!

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New Age Spirituality

This website is dedicated to New Age Spirituality, Mysticism and Christ Consciousness (all Occult teaching). This website also thinks Joyce Meyer is the greatest thing since someone found holes in the moon.   If Joyce Meyer was preaching genuine Christian teaching, this website would have been dedicated to someone other than her.  The reason why they pick her as a beautiful, loving soul is because they are speaking the same language – they both believe the same Christ Consciousness Occultism.

NEVER EVER will genuine Christians agree in ANY WAY with false teaching.  And genuine Christians will NEVER EVER make excuses for wicked people’s behaviour either.  If you make excuses for them, then you belittle Jesus Christ. 

Conclusion:  

Joyce Meyer is just another Oprah Winfrey.  BUT Joyce Meyer is WORSE because she tells everyone she is a Christian, reads out of the bible and preaches to Christian audiences.   Oprah is at least honest and admits she is not a Christian and refuses the Bible in every way. At least with Oprah, we know what we are dealing with.   Joyce Meyer is conniving, lethal in her message, and a liar second to none.

Here is the Joyce Meyer Youtube video that I transcribed above:


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Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

109 Responses

  1. gbrgirl says:

    I’ve stumbled onto you website today and find it quite interesting. I am certainly going to read as much as I can. I would just like to find out – almost everyone you point out as a false teacher is someone whom I’ve heard of before. Could you perhaps list some people whose work we can read that you consider to be genuine?

  2. blank Discerning The World says:

    Gob snacked

    >> Joyce has helped so many of us in our christian walk

    Oh so it was not Jesus Christ but Joyce….hmmmm….interesting.

  3. blank Gob smacked says:

    You know, I honestly believe what you are saying is so wrong – not just about Joyce but also for you. If you were a true christain you would know that you never slate anyone. ” Vengence is mine says the Lord” Joyce has helped so many of us in our christian walk and I am saddened at the aggressive, hateful tone in which you write. Rather worry about sorting yourself out and leave everyone else alone. I will pray for you.

  4. blank lisa says:

    thanks dtw. only those without itchy ears will be able to hear the Truth. all glory to God, and His Son, Jesus Christ forever and ever

  5. blank Discerning The World says:

    Please explain to me in more detail the oxymoron of a Jealous Bretheren?

    Not gonna even comment on the rest of the stuff you wrote. My article is rather revealing. No rocket science needed to figure out that she has helped millions of people relate with the New Age Christ through her holy words (books, cds, dvds)

  6. blank Glenda says:

    Satan and his allies always want to disparage and accuse the brethren…including Angus Buchan and Joyce Myers !!

    I think they are jealous brethen if not deceivers themselves !!

    Too bad they can’t keep up with what Joyce is saying…they would be blessed if they could…and they would know she is sincerely a Christian woman who has helped millions of people relate more personally to Christ through His Holy Word !!

    Those who want to tear down true believers will not stand in the last day !!

  7. blank J O Spies says:

    Again… someone wanting to pray for the author…

    Joyce Meyer = buzz words

    She says all the rights things (acceptable to man and his flesh), quotes all the scriptures (out of context off course) and talks so fast you can barely make out what she is saying…

    Besides that she is at best a very good motivational speaker – nothing more and not close to being Christian!

    Greetings

    J O

  8. blank Chad says:

    I am not a fan of Joyce Meyer at all and for some of the reasons you state.

    But she is not by any means an “emerging church” teacher or leader. Why would you think she is? Just because you disagree with her?

    Also, you say this:
    t works on the same principle as witchcraft’s The Wiccan Rede – “If no harm is done, do as you will”. Or the Emergent’s; The Golden Rule – “Do unto others as you would have them do to you”.

    Why would you put a wiccan saying next to one of Jesus’ sayings and pass them off as the same thing? You do know that what you call “the Emergent’s” rule is really the way of Jesus, don’t you? Why would you disparage that or say it is like a Wiccan proverb?

    Do you think we shouldn’t do what Jesus commands us to do? Scripture teaches that if we love him we will. So then why make fun of those Christians who strive to do just that?

  9. blank cecilia says:

    MINISTRY WATCH – DONOR ALERT – June 2005

    Very interesting site to “stumble upon”!

    Now I know many are gonna be very upset for me highlighting this document, but hey! It’s not for the money’s sake I’m doing this – rather I’m emphasizing the proven fact that most of these “ministry people” ride on their followers’ backs! And then have the audacity to claim that “God” is prospering them!

    MinistryWatch.com calls upon donors to prayerfully consider withholding contributions to Joyce Meyer Ministries/Lifein the Word, Inc. (JMM) in response to new facts and allegations regarding lavish lifestyles enjoyed by Joyce Meyer and many of her family members. Information about extravagant spending on salaries and other benefits for Joyce Meyer has recently been made public as a result of claims by Jefferson County, Mo. Tax Assessor Randy Holman that JMM is in fact a business and not a church.

    Read full article at:

    cecilia

  10. blank Louder than before says:

    is it ok if i paste this entry in my blog? i will make your web adress the heading?

  11. Louder than before

    Would be great, thank you, got to get the message out 🙂

  12. blank Pete says:

    Another snake oil seller!

  13. blank Amazed says:

    Wow ….I feel sick to my stomach with all of this…I dont even know how I stumbled upon your website .. you know I’m only 3 yrs reborn and I’m starting to only find my way now..and so far what I’ve learnt is that we are not to judge as the bible says only God can,we are to overlook one anothers faults and pray for each other,another thing is is that we are not to be conformed to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewing of our minds,so that we will be able to test and approve what God’s will is,he’s good,pleasing and perfect will ( so by speaking about the wrong of other’s isn’t that like being comformed to the pattern of this world??)I have just recently bought quite a few teachings on JM and to tell you the truth yes it helps me ..because it’s guidelines for me as to how to meditate on the word so as to stop worrying and other things as well…her background relates a little to mine, but I know who my mentor is …JESUS …at the end of the day we all need encouragement and help from fellow brethrens especially if you not able to hear from God yet ..or dont have a clue as to where to start and yes you are right when we have to check with the holy spirit first…thats what the bible says …for me it all boils down to having your own intimate relationship with Jesus…God handles each of his children differently and for me I’m sure he will tell how much of JM I should listen to and I listen to what is going on inside my heart,so far my heart hasnt said a thing about JM …your website has just made me aware of certain things that are to come & I thank you for that ..once again we need to check our hearts and not analize things with our minds …and as long as we keep in check that it’s not about us but all about JESUS !!!!!AMEN ..oh & one more thing the Golden Rule is scripture so why do you have it as a wiccan thingy?? isnt that contradicting the word of God???just a thought … :0) God bless

  14. Well… Amazed

    1) As a Christian YOU SHOULD KNOW that exposing false teaching is NOT judging. Show me where I have judged her sin? (No really, please show me).

    2) As a Christian YOU SHOULD KNOW that you are NOT TO tolerate deceitful teachings that lead people AWAY from the Jesus Christ of the Bible to a false Christ (who says that practising meditation is ok when it it NOT OK).

    2a) If you saw a fire in a building would you warn others of the fire or would you just let them burn?

    3) As a Christian who is [quote “….starting to only find my way now…”], don’t you think you should study the Bible instead of Joyce Meyer?? Just a thought.

    3) You judge me, telling me how sick to your stomach you feel about me speaking out against Joyce Meyer’s TEACHINGS.

    3a) Here’s a question, are you judging my sin or what I say? (No really, please answer this question)

    4) You say “…once again we need to check our hearts and not analize things with our minds”

    Nope! You check, test, weigh, rebuke, teach, etc, with your MIND, that is why God gave you a BRAIN so you can think WITH A SOUND MIND. When your ability to reason has been removed and you mind is clear (this is what meditation does) you can no longer reason and when you can no longer reason, any reason to check scripture to see if what you are following is the truth disappears too.

    So Amazed, I hope you go and do some research on what MEDITATION really is, and when you read, believe it or not but you use your mind and not your heart 😉

    Lastly: Thank you for exposing her more by confirming that she gives meditation guidelines and teaches NEW AGE OCCULT prayer.

  15. blank Michael Anthony says:

    I have noticed that people that follow this woman get addicted to her books and tapes. You go into her service with one problem and you come out realizing that you have 10 new problems. It’s a psychological trick to keep you coming back for more, there is just enough scripture there not to want to distrust the woman. She is a christian version of Dr Phil.

  16. blank Annunk says:

    I used to listen to her every time I saw her on the telle, I even sent my dear mother 2 of her books that’d been advertised…on the telle.

    Then one day..I heard her say, “We are all little gods, all of us”

    That’s when I quit listening to her, found the books I’d given to my mom and threw them away.

    How can so many people be caught up in this bull?

  17. Annunk

    >> How can so many people be caught up in this bull?

    Satan wants mankind to glorify themselves with him at the center. Apparently it would seem that mankind thinks this is a great idea. Best part is they still get to call themselves Christians because they are technically little ‘christs’.

  18. blank serv.of.Christ Gerard Willemse says:

    It’s very interesting how whenever a false teacher is being exposed, one gets accused of judging yet Scripture says they should be exposed: Ephesians 5:11 – “Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”

    I was myself accused of judging when I spoke out against the false teaching of a pastor who’s church I attended a few times.

    I just never really had any… uhm… how does one say… inspiration to read or listen to Joyce’s things.

  19. blank louise says:

    May I brag and say I never ever listened to Joyce. The day my hubby called me and said listen to this woman on TBN dont you think she is a snappy dresser.The moment I heard her my spirit did that “Funny little jiggle” you know the one when you hear a lie and you just know that person is fibbing.”Sweetheart” that woman has biggggggggg issues, turn her off. Phew. Snappy dresser.

  20. blank David North says:

    Wow ….I feel sick to my stomach with all of this…I dont even know how I stumbled upon your website .. you know I’m only 3 yrs reborn and I’m starting to only find my way now..and so far what I’ve learnt is that we are not to judge as the bible says only God can,we are to overlook one anothers faults and pray for each other,another thing is is that we are not to be conformed to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewing of our minds,so that we will be able to test and approve what God’s will is,he’s good,pleasing and perfect will

    This is your problem here on this site ladies and gentlmen…out of the mouths of babes.
    Jesus might say, “I know your zeal” but I think He would also turn to you and say, “…but I have this against you.”.

    I have been a christian for forty years. I am not a Joyce Meyer “follower”–I haven’t heard her in the last decade other than in passing while changing channels on the radio. I am not a participant in any “movement”, claim no title or authority and endorse no particular denomination over another–nor am I ignorant of the fact that there is a a lot of deception and even heresy floating about the so-called Christian world…but I would rather be facing persecution and imprisonment with her and this new Christian than with most of those speaking here.

    It’s a case of the beam judging the specks…and when it does happen to be a beam your judging it doesn’t shrink your own.

    “Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.” Titus 1:15

    In the gaming world there is a tongue-in-cheek adage, “When I win it is always because I am good. When you win it is always because you cheat.”

    Depsite all the “sound theology” espoused here, I see little of the love for Christ. I see a love for doctrine, for strict interpretation, for adherence to absolute standards and I see a glee and delight at tearing visciously at disagreed with…to the point where they are casually derided as devils and antichrists and blasphemers.

    I don’t expect any response to this other than eye-rolling and some stones but you have lost the simplicity that is in Christ and instead become “teachers of the law”. I wouldn’t want your job.

  21. David North

    Thanks for juding me. And if you want to be New Age, hey go ahead. No one is stopping you. You are freeeeeeeeee to follow any god you wish as per new world religous rules, except real Christianity of course. So that would explain why you are eager go to sit with occultists in jail cells – birds of a feather get stuck in cells together.

  22. blank cecilia says:

    >>> David North, March 25th –

    In the gaming world there is a tongue-in-cheek adage, “When I win it is always because I am good. When you win it is always because you cheat.”

    this is no game. peoples souls are at stake. with “tongue-in-cheek”: sit in a prison with someone you “haven’t heard over a decade”? yip! you will have much to catch up on… remember, she talks fast…

  23. blank Robbie says:

    My ex ouderling has been a christian for 70 years and he is still breastfeeding. Somehow he just cannot take in healthy solid food.

    Sorry, Am I off the sublect again?

  24. blank Robbie says:

    “To judge or not”

    A little in context study for “judge notters”
    Note that I had to be saved first then remove myself from the top of the list of ear ticklers, then really study the Word of God before my eyes were opened…

    Please also watch “call for Discernment” from Justin Peters.

    Should I judge False prophets? (according to biblical parameters)

    Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

    Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
    Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

    Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
    Mat 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

    Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

    1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
    1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

    1Ki 3:11 And God said unto him, Because thou hast asked this thing, and hast not asked for thyself long life; neither hast asked riches for thyself, nor hast asked the life of thine enemies; but hast asked for thyself understanding to discern judgment;

    Should I name false prophets? Paul did!

    2Ti 4:10 For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.

    1Ti 1:20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

    2Ti 4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:

    Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
    Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

    Luk 12:56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?

    Mat 16:3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

    Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

    Eze 44:23 And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.

    Job 6:30 Is there iniquity in my tongue? cannot my taste discern perverse things?

    Ezr 3:13 So that the people could not discern the noise of the shout of joy from the noise of the weeping of the people: for the people shouted with a loud shout, and the noise was heard afar off.

    1Ki 3:9 Give therefore thy servant an understanding heart to judge thy people, that I may discern between good and bad: for who is able to judge this thy so great a people?

    1Ki 3:10 And the speech pleased the Lord, that Solomon had asked this thing.

    2Sa 14:17 Then thine handmaid said, The word of my lord the king shall now be comfortable: for as an angel of God, so is my lord the king to discern good and bad: therefore the LORD thy God will be with thee.

    Luke speaks to John:
    Luk 1:76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;
    Luk 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
    Luk 1:78 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,
    Luk 1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

    Warn them!!
    1Th 5:14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.

    Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
    Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
    Act 20:31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
    Eze 3:21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

    Warn or become responsible!! (OR BE JUDGED!)

    Eze 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand.
    Eze 33:7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.
    Eze 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
    Eze 33:9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

    Eze 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

    You will meet some with Spiritual pride
    1Co 4:18 Now some are puffed up, as though I would not come to you.
    1Co 4:19 But I will come to you shortly, if the Lord will, and will know, not the speech of them which are puffed up, but the power.

    Zep 2:10 This shall they have for their pride, because they have reproached and magnified themselves against the people of the LORD of hosts.

    Dan 5:20 But when his heart was lifted up, and his mind hardened in pride, he was deposed from his kingly throne, and they took his glory from him:

    Jer 49:16 Thy terribleness hath deceived thee, and the pride of thine heart, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, that holdest the height of the hill: though thou shouldest make thy nest as high as the eagle, I will bring thee down from thence, saith the LORD.

    Jer 13:17 But if ye will not hear it, my soul shall weep in secret places for your pride; and mine eye shall weep sore, and run down with tears, because the LORD’S flock is carried away captive.

    Pro 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

    Pro 14:3 In the mouth of the foolish is a rod of pride: but the lips of the wise shall preserve them.

    Pro 13:10 Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.

    Psa 10:4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.

    Job 35:12 There they cry, but none giveth answer, because of the pride of evil men.

    Should I condemn the wicked?

    Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

  25. blank Robbie says:

    Talking about waking up…

    Question Deborah.
    Have you noticed Angus’s prayer for our dear president that appeared on the front page of The Sunday News paper?

    “God, help him EVEN IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS”

    Nice of him to Set a time for God…
    Unless Uncle Angus want Allah to assist too? He is the closest to the earth in the early morning hours, I read…
    Oh yes, Satan also claims the early morning hours (3am) since Jesus died at 3 pm…

    I agree our president needs a lot of help but really…

  26. blank Robbie says:

    … one more thing please…
    I really am friendlier than this profile pic?… can I change it?

  27. Robbie

    Odd to think that ‘god’ would stop helping him between 3 and 5am and that he needed to be reminded.

    ‘The Star of the Dawn or ‘Blazing Star’ represents the resurrection of Horus into Amsu (Horus was supposedly the first god/man).

  28. Robbie

    Yeah what you do it you go http://www.gravatar.com and follow the instructions. Find a picture you will want to crop into a square and upload it there – you then link the picture to your email address. So evertime you use this email your picture will show up. TaaaDaaaa

  29. blank michelle says:

    Wow what a sceptic you are. it is hard to imagine that you could ever listen to something and just be blessed, sitting on your high and mighty seat of judging everyone’s words and ministries. What a miserable life you must have. Sure, there is a lot of rubbish out there – have you ever considered that scripture that tells us God will seperate the tares and the wheat in His time, because He is not constantly ‘weeding’ like you. Remember Paul said while he was in jail that many people saw his imprisonment as their golden opportunity to make a name for themselves by preaching BUT he said it does not matter because either way the word of God is being preached. The Lord holds this world in His hand and will not allow His children to be deceived – sometimes people want to believe a lie and no one (not even you) can persuade them otherwise. My suggestion is that you spend some of your time getting close to the Lord and developing your own spiritual walk with Him. Believe it or not – He can do it without You! He wants to know you. You have not been called to be the judge and jury

  30. Michelle

    Okie dokie then. What ever you say.

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